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Alex Neil
Nov 27, 2023 15:43:33 GMT
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Post by theporcelainpele on Nov 27, 2023 15:43:33 GMT
As long as we're not in trouble of relegation and in the touching dodtance of the play-offs sacking is a ridiculous suggestion, imagine if you fired a manager looking up the table and hire a man that takes you down one, look at Brum. If it was down to many on here stoke would have a new manager every few weeks Two weeks with the squad and he produces one of the worst performances since his time here. If that's not a red flag then fair enough. His record at Stoke City is atrocious. He didn’t have two weeks with the squad unfortunately. He was sunning himself in Dubai. Says it all. Get rid of the clown. |
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Alex Neil
Nov 27, 2023 15:44:37 GMT
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Post by theporcelainpele on Nov 27, 2023 15:44:37 GMT
Mark Robins at Coventry said he used all but the weekend if the international break to drill down the patterns if play ahead of the game at Millwall, which they won 3 - 0. What on earth did we do, given that the players looked like total strangers to each other..Yes Vidigal hasn't looked sharp these last few games, but the starting XI on Saturday, looked absolutely devoid of goals and so it mapped out that way.. he's a charmless chancer and I've had enough. Looking at AN on Saturday he looked like he'd had at least a week in the sun! Lose tomorrow and the pressure cranks right back up on him. In Dubai apparently on holiday. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2023 15:52:18 GMT
Looking at AN on Saturday he looked like he'd had at least a week in the sun! Lose tomorrow and the pressure cranks right back up on him. In Dubai apparently on holiday. Sounds about right. Why work when you are top of the league and flying? |
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 27, 2023 15:56:31 GMT
I can't stand this manager. I thought I disliked Pulis the most but at least he got results, Neil takes the biscuit.
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Post by topcat on Nov 27, 2023 16:00:16 GMT
I can't stand this manager. I thought I disliked Pulis the most but at least he got results, Neil takes the biscuit. There's a certain amount of justice in all of this. Speaking as the bitter, spurned ex. Neil left us for more money and a greater control over transfers. Has he maybe shown that he shouldn't be trusted with transfers given your struggles? I take no pleasure in this, because Stoke were for many years my 2nd team. What's the general feeling in the press/social media? Does it feel like he's anywhere close to the end? There's part of me wants him to fail and look stupid for leaving us, but I don't want Stoke ending up in the shit either.... |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Nov 27, 2023 16:02:44 GMT
Looking at AN on Saturday he looked like he'd had at least a week in the sun! Lose tomorrow and the pressure cranks right back up on him. In Dubai apparently on holiday. Seriously? So while Mark Robins was working overtime sorting Coventry out and ultimately leading them to their best win of the season, our manager was on a mid-season jolly, presumably with the owners consent? Lose to Qpr and he shoukd be canned. Doubt he will be though |
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Alex Neil
Nov 27, 2023 16:03:02 GMT
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Post by lordb on Nov 27, 2023 16:03:02 GMT
I can't stand this manager. I thought I disliked Pulis the most but at least he got results, Neil takes the biscuit. There's a certain amount of justice in all of this. Speaking as the bitter, spurned ex. Neil left us for more money and a greater control over transfers. Has he maybe shown that he shouldn't be trusted with transfers given your struggles? I take no pleasure in this, because Stoke were for many years my 2nd team. What's the general feeling in the press/social media? Does it feel like he's anywhere close to the end? There's part of me wants him to fail and look stupid for leaving us, but I don't want Stoke ending up in the shit either.... No hint at all in the media Provided we are not in actual genuine relegation trouble he's safe as houses We will win a few games at some point but then revert to tepid no goals shit |
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Post by Old School Stokie on Nov 27, 2023 16:03:31 GMT
Comical comments about changing manager from know it alls that know nothing - AN is our best bet long term and what an insult to call JC an idiot. How many so called proven championship type managers have we gone through - the fact is we will not be going through any more and we have AN. So accept it boys and see you all in the play offs - yes look what 2 wins can do to position. We need momentum, which was stopped at the break and I have every confidence that its just lack of goals that puts pressure on the defense. Hopefully that will be addressed soon and in the transfer window. Keep the faith there is no one out there who can do a better job.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Nov 27, 2023 16:04:16 GMT
I can't stand this manager. I thought I disliked Pulis the most but at least he got results, Neil takes the biscuit. There's a certain amount of justice in all of this. Speaking as the bitter, spurned ex. Neil left us for more money and a greater control over transfers. Has he maybe shown that he shouldn't be trusted with transfers given your struggles? I take no pleasure in this, because Stoke were for many years my 2nd team. What's the general feeling in the press/social media? Does it feel like he's anywhere close to the end? There's part of me wants him to fail and look stupid for leaving us, but I don't want Stoke ending up in the shit either.... He’s nowhere near the door. He’s front and centre of a lot of the club’s media along with Ricky Martin (technical director) who he appears big pals with. Coates has gone out of his way to get him on two occasions, I can’t see him being under any serious pressure at this point. |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Nov 27, 2023 16:04:57 GMT
I can't stand this manager. I thought I disliked Pulis the most but at least he got results, Neil takes the biscuit. There's a certain amount of justice in all of this. Speaking as the bitter, spurned ex. Neil left us for more money and a greater control over transfers. Has he maybe shown that he shouldn't be trusted with transfers given your struggles? I take no pleasure in this, because Stoke were for many years my 2nd team. What's the general feeling in the press/social media? Does it feel like he's anywhere close to the end? There's part of me wants him to fail and look stupid for leaving us, but I don't want Stoke ending up in the shit either.... The way he left you lot had me questioning at the time if he was the kind of guy I wanted managing my club Hes done little since to erase my concerns |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Nov 27, 2023 16:07:36 GMT
Listen to his post-match comments after Saturday's game. He is peddling the belief that we are a work in progress, as if that is a get out of jail card for being as shit as we were on Saturday. You can't always be a work in progress, and a work in progress most generally exhibits incremental positive developments, whereas we lurch from a decent couple of results to being relegation fodder the next. That isn't work in progress, it's a manager who is way too comfortable in his position. A real work in progress right now would be a manager shitting bricks that he's not hitting the targets. This, 100% The whole gang are! I bet JC thinks he's the leader of the gang but in reality he's only in it because it's his ball! Where's GuernseyDave and his snake oilometer? |
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 27, 2023 16:11:49 GMT
Comical comments about changing manager from know it alls that know nothing - AN is our best bet long term and what an insult to call JC an idiot. How many so called proven championship type managers have we gone through - the fact is we will not be going through any more and we have AN. So accept it boys and see you all in the play offs - yes look what 2 wins can do to position. We need momentum, which was stopped at the break and I have every confidence that its just lack of goals that puts pressure on the defense. Hopefully that will be addressed soon and in the transfer window. Keep the faith there is no one out there who can do a better job. Oh dear. |
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Post by topcat on Nov 27, 2023 16:11:52 GMT
Coates has gone out of his way to get him on two occasions, I can’t see him being under any serious pressure at this point. We had that with David Moyes. Our owner at the time had gone after him 2 or 3 times, so refused to entertain sacking him even when it was obvious after 3 or 4 games that we were fucked. He was even going to keep him for the "promotion" push (arf) but Moyes resigned when he was told there was no money to spend. We suffered for years by having non-football people run our club. These emotional hires are dangerous territory |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Nov 27, 2023 16:12:12 GMT
What's the general feeling in the press/social media? Does it feel like he's anywhere close to the end? There's part of me wants him to fail and look stupid for leaving us, but I don't want Stoke ending up in the shit either.... The questioner in chief at press conferences is actually employed by the club!  |
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Alex Neil
Nov 27, 2023 16:14:01 GMT
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Post by boscfc on Nov 27, 2023 16:14:01 GMT
Comical comments about changing manager from know it alls that know nothing - AN is our best bet long term and what an insult to call JC an idiot. How many so called proven championship type managers have we gone through - the fact is we will not be going through any more and we have AN. So accept it boys and see you all in the play offs - yes look what 2 wins can do to position. We need momentum, which was stopped at the break and I have every confidence that its just lack of goals that puts pressure on the defense. Hopefully that will be addressed soon and in the transfer window. Keep the faith there is no one out there who can do a better job. 😂 good one. |
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Alex Neil
Nov 27, 2023 16:22:50 GMT
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Post by scfcno1fan on Nov 27, 2023 16:22:50 GMT
In Dubai apparently on holiday. Sounds about right. Why work when you are top of the league and flying? I thought this when the players were posting their pictures abroad last week. What’s all that about? Time off in the season? I swear that never used to be a thing. Each club to their own, but I’m not sure I agree with that. Time off in the UK maybe, but probably not abroad. The international break should be time to fix the wrongs, of which we have many, not galavant around. |
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Alex Neil
Nov 27, 2023 16:24:10 GMT
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Nov 27, 2023 16:24:10 GMT
Comical comments about changing manager from know it alls that know nothing - AN is our best bet long term and what an insult to call JC an idiot. How many so called proven championship type managers have we gone through - the fact is we will not be going through any more and we have AN. So accept it boys and see you all in the play offs - yes look what 2 wins can do to position. We need momentum, which was stopped at the break and I have every confidence that its just lack of goals that puts pressure on the defense. Hopefully that will be addressed soon and in the transfer window. Keep the faith there is no one out there who can do a better job. Rowett is quite literally the only “proven” championship manager we have sacked. Jones hadn’t managed at that level before and MON had next to no real club experience, yet did by far the best job before it went stale after nearly 3 years in charge after managing us through incredibly difficult circumstances. Interestingly enough MON was second choice to the man who is now in charge. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2023 16:25:10 GMT
Sounds about right. Why work when you are top of the league and flying? I thought this when the players were posting their pictures abroad last week. What’s all that about? Time off in the season? I swear that never used to be a thing. Each club to their own, but I’m not sure I agree with that. Time off in the UK maybe, but probably not abroad. The international break should be time to fix the wrongs, of which we have many, not galavant around. It certainly explains the 'performance' on Saturday. Shameful. |
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 27, 2023 16:29:25 GMT
Coates has gone out of his way to get him on two occasions, I can’t see him being under any serious pressure at this point. We had that with David Moyes. Our owner at the time had gone after him 2 or 3 times, so refused to entertain sacking him even when it was obvious after 3 or 4 games that we were fucked. He was even going to keep him for the "promotion" push (arf) but Moyes resigned when he was told there was no money to spend. We suffered for years by having non-football people run our club. These emotional hires are dangerous territory This is the second time Coates has gone all in chasing a manager. Rowett now Neil. Rowett turned on the supporters and had to go. I've a feeling Neil will go the same way. 'supporters only looking at results' comments are only the start. |
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Alex Neil
Nov 27, 2023 16:45:56 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 27, 2023 16:45:56 GMT
Comical comments about changing manager from know it alls that know nothing - AN is our best bet long term and what an insult to call JC an idiot. How many so called proven championship type managers have we gone through - the fact is we will not be going through any more and we have AN. So accept it boys and see you all in the play offs - yes look what 2 wins can do to position. We need momentum, which was stopped at the break and I have every confidence that its just lack of goals that puts pressure on the defense. Hopefully that will be addressed soon and in the transfer window. Keep the faith there is no one out there who can do a better job. You says it's comical then say AN with his horrendous record is the answer and talk play offs 😁 I agree, JC isn't an idiot and will stick with him until he can, I feel . Every team needs momentum, how does his record since he arrived suggest that we'll suddenly gain any when he loses more than he wins and we can't score to save our lives? Another AN lover basing his tenure on something that hasn't happened and ignoring the facts |
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Post by theporcelainpele on Nov 27, 2023 16:50:34 GMT
I can't stand this manager. I thought I disliked Pulis the most but at least he got results, Neil takes the biscuit. There's a certain amount of justice in all of this. Speaking as the bitter, spurned ex. Neil left us for more money and a greater control over transfers. Has he maybe shown that he shouldn't be trusted with transfers given your struggles? I take no pleasure in this, because Stoke were for many years my 2nd team. What's the general feeling in the press/social media? Does it feel like he's anywhere close to the end? There's part of me wants him to fail and look stupid for leaving us, but I don't want Stoke ending up in the shit either.... Don’t worry mate, plenty of us were embarrassed at how we went after Neil, yet again dangling the golden carrot and the promise of £££s more than current contract. I remember the day the news broke and I was fuming with the appointment, partly because I knew that it would only go the way it is doing and the other part because it was down the exact same boring route that we always go under the Coates. We had opportunity to do the research and find a progressive front foot modern thinking manager, but instead mumbling John asked who’s got a promotion out of this division in the past and threw his gold at it, regardless whether style of play and current squad were anywhere near matched to Neil’s needs. Clueless, idiotic ownership who will never learn. Turn up in the helicopter, watch us lose, not have a clue what is playing out before their eyes and then forget about it by 6pm. Some fans lap it up though. |
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Alex Neil
Nov 27, 2023 16:52:04 GMT
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Post by theporcelainpele on Nov 27, 2023 16:52:04 GMT
Sounds about right. Why work when you are top of the league and flying? I thought this when the players were posting their pictures abroad last week. What’s all that about? Time off in the season? I swear that never used to be a thing. Each club to their own, but I’m not sure I agree with that. Time off in the UK maybe, but probably not abroad. The international break should be time to fix the wrongs, of which we have many, not galavant around. I swear Vidigal was in Paris for about 10 days. It’s a shit show, always will be under the Coates by the looks of things. |
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Alex Neil
Nov 27, 2023 16:54:06 GMT
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Post by theporcelainpele on Nov 27, 2023 16:54:06 GMT
Comical comments about changing manager from know it alls that know nothing - AN is our best bet long term and what an insult to call JC an idiot. How many so called proven championship type managers have we gone through - the fact is we will not be going through any more and we have AN. So accept it boys and see you all in the play offs - yes look what 2 wins can do to position. We need momentum, which was stopped at the break and I have every confidence that its just lack of goals that puts pressure on the defense. Hopefully that will be addressed soon and in the transfer window. Keep the faith there is no one out there who can do a better job. Proven championship managers? They have all been sacked recently for being absolutely crap elsewhere too. O’Neil meanwhile has gone back to managing a minnow international side that have just had one of their worst qualifying campaigns on record. Wow. |
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Post by skip on Nov 27, 2023 16:57:45 GMT
"Alex, what's it like, Alex Alex, what's it like in Dubal?"
needs work to scan correctly but I'm sure we can work on it tomorrow night.
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Alex Neil
Nov 27, 2023 17:10:02 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 27, 2023 17:10:02 GMT
I thought this when the players were posting their pictures abroad last week. What’s all that about? Time off in the season? I swear that never used to be a thing. Each club to their own, but I’m not sure I agree with that. Time off in the UK maybe, but probably not abroad. The international break should be time to fix the wrongs, of which we have many, not galavant around. I swear Vidigal was in Paris for about 10 days. It’s a shit show, always will be under the Coates by the looks of things. Not unusual for players to go on breaks on international week to be fair, Coates didn't create the idea. A shame Neil found his way back though ...we could have got a couple of camels for him... At a push |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Nov 27, 2023 17:10:18 GMT
For me a certain apathy has sunk in with regards to Alex Niell.
Of course he should be given the boot (especially if we are bottom half still come Christmas).
BUT what do we do then??
Hire another has-been mediocre British manager who didnt want all these foreign players in his squad? Cue another transfer merry-go-round whilst he gets his players in and we need another 2 seasons to judge the results.
Every time we Stick or Twist we just end up with the same shit on repeat.
Unless someone like Graham Potter sticks his hand up for the job - the alternatives are just Niell/Rowett/Jones/oNiell copies.
None of the alternatives mentioned by posters on here sound like they will make a blind bit of difference.
At least we dont have Wayne Rooney
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Alex Neil
Nov 27, 2023 17:13:26 GMT
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Nov 27, 2023 17:13:26 GMT
For me a certain apathy has sunk in with regards to Alex Niell, and maybe some others too? Of course he shoud be given the boot (especially if we are bottom half still come Christmas). BUT what do we do then?? Hire another has-been mediocre British manager who didnt want all these foreign players in his squad? Cue another transfer merry-go-round whilst he gets his players in and we need another 2 seasons to judge the results. Every time we Stick or Twist we just end up with the same shit on repeat. Unless someone like Graham Potter sticks his hand up for the job - the alternatives are just Niell/Rowett/Jones/oNiell copies. None of the alternatives mentioned by posters on here sound like they will make a blind bit of difference. At least we dont have Wayne Rooney I'd rather have Rooney than the current muppet. Then again I'd rather have Boris Johnson in charge than this fool. |
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Alex Neil
Nov 27, 2023 17:17:19 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 27, 2023 17:17:19 GMT
For me a certain apathy has sunk in with regards to Alex Niell, and maybe some others too? Of course he shoud be given the boot (especially if we are bottom half still come Christmas). BUT what do we do then?? Hire another has-been mediocre British manager who didnt want all these foreign players in his squad? Cue another transfer merry-go-round whilst he gets his players in and we need another 2 seasons to judge the results. Every time we Stick or Twist we just end up with the same shit on repeat. Unless someone like Graham Potter sticks his hand up for the job - the alternatives are just Niell/Rowett/Jones/oNiell copies. None of the alternatives mentioned by posters on here sound like they will make a blind bit of difference. At least we dont have Wayne Rooney Said before,Miron Muslic be my choice and very realistic but too off the path for Stoke I think. More chance of Feltz choking on salad than us going for a foreigner like him at a guess Is Nuno available...probably too rich to consider us |
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Alex Neil
Nov 27, 2023 17:19:33 GMT
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Post by theporcelainpele on Nov 27, 2023 17:19:33 GMT
I swear Vidigal was in Paris for about 10 days. It’s a shit show, always will be under the Coates by the looks of things. Not unusual for players to go on breaks on international week to be fair, Coates didn't create the idea. A shame Neil found his way back though ...we could have got a couple of camels for him... At a push I get that, but take the two examples on this thread of how a club is running/acting during the IB . One worked on tactics and shape throughout the entire break and another allowed their players and manager to go off sunning themselves. One won 3-0 away, the other lost 3-0 at home. Like I said, it’s a shit show when looking in. |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Nov 27, 2023 17:23:02 GMT
Not unusual for players to go on breaks on international week to be fair, Coates didn't create the idea. A shame Neil found his way back though ...we could have got a couple of camels for him... At a push I get that, but take the two examples on this thread of how a club is running/acting during the IB . One worked on tactics and shape throughout the entire break and another allowed their players and manager to go off sunning themselves. One won 3-0 away, the other lost 3-0 at home. Like I said, it’s a shit show when looking in. And as someone else said, if we were top of the league and flying along nicely it would be understandable But we are bottom half and were coming off 2 uninspiring goalless draws |
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