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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2023 14:27:34 GMT
Still plenty on here looking for Neil to fail so they can say “I was right”. Quite sad really. Must be quite a dilemma on Saturday afternoons For me, I disliked him early on and haven’t warmed to him since. I would love Stoke to start winning more than they lose over the course of 10/15/20/46 games. If they did, I may start warming to AN. Until then, I’ll continue to support the club but I can’t help but dislike AN. |
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Post by Old School Stokie on Nov 5, 2023 14:36:29 GMT
Need to stick with AN even if we dont make play offs - we've changed too many managers some with good reputations but are they any better than AN - Rowett Jones doing the rounds. Look at Norwich & WAGNER after first 6 games - 15 poimts in the top 3. Now played 15 with 17 points - be careful what you wish for - HUghes a case in point - disaster
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 5, 2023 14:58:12 GMT
Still plenty on here looking for Neil to fail so they can say “I was right”. Quite sad really. Must be quite a dilemma on Saturday afternoons Is there? Maybe they're just pointing out the job he has done so far which isn't great Who wants him to fail? Enlighten us all |
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Post by onepara on Nov 5, 2023 15:55:58 GMT
Some of you just won't accept that this football club has undergone a complete overhaul. It will take more than this season for that to show positive results, on & off the field. Some of these players have never played in this country, don't know the culture, & are still coming to terms with that. Then they are expected to play their normal game. It won't happen quickly. it will take time. The Manager was faced with 18 players, who he had to work with, to get a team from. It needs patience. Take a look at the league table today, & you will see that for all of that 'churn' as the Manager calls it, we aren't doing too badly. We are above some good teams who haven't had the turmoil, & injuries, that we have had. Quick turnarounds happen at lots of clubs. Why can’t we expect that? Can you give me the name of just one club that has had the turn-round that we have had in one close season? Players out, 18 new players in & backroom staff completely changed! That's not to mention the long list of injuries we've had, some long-term. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 5, 2023 15:59:53 GMT
Quick turnarounds happen at lots of clubs. Why can’t we expect that? Can you give me the name of just one club that has had the turn-round that we have had in one close season? Players out, 18 new players in & backroom staff completely changed! That's not to mention the long list of injuries we've had, some long-term. Hull |
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Post by onepara on Nov 5, 2023 17:00:12 GMT
Can you give me the name of just one club that has had the turn-round that we have had in one close season? Players out, 18 new players in & backroom staff completely changed! That's not to mention the long list of injuries we've had, some long-term. Hull Are you his gofer? |
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Post by pottersrule on Nov 5, 2023 17:28:51 GMT
As predicted by many, Cardiff was another shit show and we were lucky not to lose. Just like last season’s brief resurgence, we have turned back into rat shit. His record remains appalling. I still think he needs to go, but I accept that isn’t going to happen this side of Christmas. If at all. I’m so numb to this endless crap now that I’m starting not to really care. It's a lot easier that way believe me.Long gone are the days when the weekend was ruined by Stokes performances. |
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Post by cheadlepotter on Nov 5, 2023 17:34:46 GMT
Still plenty on here looking for Neil to fail so they can say “I was right”. Quite sad really. Must be quite a dilemma on Saturday afternoons 🥱 |
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Post by Biblical on Nov 5, 2023 17:44:01 GMT
I kind of get people pointing to the overall record and saying he’s not good enough but the squad he had last year was shit and I’m not sure why people expect a shit squad to do anything better than be shit really.
This year is completely different though and he’s got to do better than the start of the season and it’s completely on him if we do the same this season that we did the last.
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Post by baconburger on Nov 5, 2023 18:55:37 GMT
Need to stick with AN even if we dont make play offs - we've changed too many managers some with good reputations but are they any better than AN - Rowett Jones doing the rounds. Look at Norwich & WAGNER after first 6 games - 15 poimts in the top 3. Now played 15 with 17 points - be careful what you wish for - HUghes a case in point - disaster Fuck me I hope we manage one more disaster like that in my lifetime. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 5, 2023 23:33:37 GMT
Hull still remains the answer |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Nov 6, 2023 9:36:18 GMT
Can you give me the name of just one club that has had the turn-round that we have had in one close season? Players out, 18 new players in & backroom staff completely changed! That's not to mention the long list of injuries we've had, some long-term. Hull I’d add Burnley last season aswell |
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Post by nottsover60 on Nov 6, 2023 10:40:01 GMT
I’d add Burnley last season aswell I can't be bothered to look at Hull's transfer window or injury record but they have three more points than Stoke and are on the slide. There are several clubs who brought in as many as Stoke but I doubt if anyone started pre season with only five left from last year including two goalkeepers. I also doubt if any club brought in as many players who had never played in England, never experienced the intensity of every single match that there is in the Championship, were in their early 20s and didn't speak English as a first language. I stand to be corrected if there is. Last time Burnley were mentioned I pointed out that although they brought in as many new players as us they also retained about ten of their first team Premier squad including some important players. As for injuries I haven't checked but is there another club who have lost as many first team guaranteed starters to long term injuries? Mmaee, Vidigal, Campbell, Stevens, Wilmot and now Travers represents half the team you would have expected to start in August. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 6, 2023 10:52:41 GMT
I’d add Burnley last season aswell I can't be bothered to look at Hull's transfer window or injury record but they have three more points than Stoke and are on the slide. There are several clubs who brought in as many as Stoke but I doubt if anyone started pre season with only five left from last year including two goalkeepers. I also doubt if any club brought in as many players who had never played in England, never experienced the intensity of every single match that there is in the Championship, were in their early 20s and didn't speak English as a first language. I stand to be corrected if there is. Last time Burnley were mentioned I pointed out that although they brought in as many new players as us they also retained about ten of their first team Premier squad including some important players. As for injuries I haven't checked but is there another club who have lost as many first team guaranteed starters to long term injuries? Mmaee, Vidigal, Campbell, Stevens, Wilmot and now Travers represents half the team you would have expected to start in August. They sold more Signed more Have more points All you need to know |
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Post by mrnovember on Nov 6, 2023 11:33:01 GMT
Is opinion on a manager that evolves based on, erm, the results he produces that much of an embarrassment?
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Post by nottsover60 on Nov 6, 2023 11:40:11 GMT
I can't be bothered to look at Hull's transfer window or injury record but they have three more points than Stoke and are on the slide. There are several clubs who brought in as many as Stoke but I doubt if anyone started pre season with only five left from last year including two goalkeepers. I also doubt if any club brought in as many players who had never played in England, never experienced the intensity of every single match that there is in the Championship, were in their early 20s and didn't speak English as a first language. I stand to be corrected if there is. Last time Burnley were mentioned I pointed out that although they brought in as many new players as us they also retained about ten of their first team Premier squad including some important players. As for injuries I haven't checked but is there another club who have lost as many first team guaranteed starters to long term injuries? Mmaee, Vidigal, Campbell, Stevens, Wilmot and now Travers represents half the team you would have expected to start in August. They sold more Signed more Have more points All you need to know They signed 12 and we signed 18 from what I can see. Transfermarkt is confusing as it includes returning loanees, youth transters but transfer deals gives a clear list of first team players which is correct for Stoke but doesn't include Bae for some reason but does include the youth gk Alfie Brooks. They brought in 3 players from clubs abroad, we brought in 6. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 6, 2023 11:48:47 GMT
They sold more Signed more Have more points All you need to know They signed 12 and we signed 18 from what I can see. Transfermarkt is confusing as it includes returning loanees, youth transters but transfer deals gives a clear list of first team players which is correct for Stoke at least. As someone pointed out, managers are judged on results and Neil hasn't produced at all so far on that front on the whole . Great we've improved of late but isn't an ...I told you so moment. A week of wins is great but not much good if we do the same as we did last purple patch and font push in . Of course no one wants a manager to fail, nonsense to suggest so. Personally, like a few, don't like him at all but to think you'd want us to lose to prove a point is ridiculous, the club is important, managers come and go. |
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 6, 2023 11:53:24 GMT
Still plenty on here looking for Neil to fail so they can say “I was right”. Quite sad really. Must be quite a dilemma on Saturday afternoons They’re chomping at the bit mate Oh dear |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 6, 2023 11:54:11 GMT
They’re chomping at the bit mate Oh dear Who are they? Enlighten us |
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Post by peterthornesboots on Nov 6, 2023 22:55:33 GMT
Still plenty on here looking for Neil to fail so they can say “I was right”. Quite sad really. Must be quite a dilemma on Saturday afternoons For me, I disliked him early on and haven’t warmed to him since. I would love Stoke to start winning more than they lose over the course of 10/15/20/46 games. If they did, I may start warming to AN. Until then, I’ll continue to support the club but I can’t help but dislike AN. I feel along the same lines. I was not overly impressed when he was appointed and last season he did an awful job overall. However, we have got to the point where we have invested so much into the changes that AN has facilitated at the club that we need to give him time and see it through to some kind of conclusion. The last four games have given me a little bit of hope that we are now moving in a more positive direction. The switch to a back four, a more settled back line, dropping Laurent, and pressing higher up the pitch are all positive moves. The last four games provides AN with a good foundation to build something from and there are plenty of winnable games coming up prior to the New Year. To his credit, he seems to have gotten the team to turn some kind of corner. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2023 16:56:28 GMT
He's just pissed it away today, the goodwill and confidence that was building.
Team selection was bizarre. No sign of a game plan on the pitch.
I've been totally backing him but it wasnt the result, the performance was shocking. And honestly, the last few performances have been a massive step back.
Stoke need a good manager. Go get Corberan
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Nov 25, 2023 16:57:25 GMT
Just fuck off Alex.
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Post by questionable on Nov 25, 2023 16:58:11 GMT
AN needs sacking tonight, no excuses and no delay
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Post by silsdenstokie on Nov 25, 2023 16:58:20 GMT
He doesnt seem to help himself, does he?
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Nov 25, 2023 17:00:02 GMT
He's just pissed it away today, the goodwill and confidence that was building. Team selection was bizarre. No sign of a game plan on the pitch. I've been totally backing him but it wasnt the result, the performance was shocking. And honestly, the last few performances have been a massive step back. Stoke need a good manager. Go get Corberan I backed him till Leicester. Don’t think he’s the man to take us forward at all. No consistency and looks like a repeat of the bump in good form last year followed by a load of dross |
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Post by TheMmaeestro on Nov 25, 2023 17:00:05 GMT
We’ve been pretty woeful for the majority of his tenure and ultimately he has to pay the price.
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Post by ibby on Nov 25, 2023 17:00:48 GMT
Just sack him
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Post by scfcno1fan on Nov 25, 2023 17:01:16 GMT
People will think it’s reactionary.
But he has to go.
He’s just not good enough.
No gameplan. No idea.
16 goals in 17 games. Take the Rotherham game out its 12 in 16!
We’ve failed to score in half of our league games.
It’s just poor. A year of near dross.
Get someone else in.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 25, 2023 17:01:27 GMT
He.is.14th thats.whay.he does.see Preston
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Post by tejstokie on Nov 25, 2023 17:02:43 GMT
His sides come out as if they've just had a turkey each from the carvery. Needs to go. No passion. Poor selection and his results are the worst of it. At home no less. Get me players that want to play here. Tired of these salary assassins like Gayle.
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