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Post by andycooke96 on Oct 29, 2023 2:20:33 GMT
I have probably been one of Neils biggest critics since he joined the club and would have had no qualms if he’d been sacked at any point before the Sunderland game, however the last 3 games have shown the signs of a very good team (I know we’ve had false dawns before) and also shown just how good our summer recruitment was, even if we neglected a few positions. Dare I say it, we’re also seeing signs of a clear identity on the pitch as well. Onwards and upwards now, everyone is behind the team, let’s make this a season to remember
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Oct 29, 2023 5:07:43 GMT
Sack him quick, he's shite. Doesn't know what he's doing. Tactically inept. Loads on here are going to look stupid at the end of the season 🤣 you got a crystal ball , he’s won three game on the trot 👏👏, his ppg is still shocking , a long way to go yet , and if your a stoke fan you know we do well against better teams , at least wait till we start beating he poorer ones How many times do I have to say that we have a completely new squad of players and it was always going to take time to gel? I don't need a crystal ball for my assessment, it's just common sense. |
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Post by a on Oct 29, 2023 5:24:54 GMT
I have probably been one of Neils biggest critics since he joined the club and would have had no qualms if he’d been sacked at any point before the Sunderland game, however the last 3 games have shown the signs of a very good team (I know we’ve had false dawns before) and also shown just how good our summer recruitment was, even if we neglected a few positions. Dare I say it, we’re also seeing signs of a clear identity on the pitch as well. Onwards and upwards now, everyone is behind the team, let’s make this a season to remember I’ve always maintained it will take time to click given the managers first full season with players he (allegedly) wanted and given how many new signings we’ve made. Hopefully green shoots and all that. |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Oct 29, 2023 6:19:52 GMT
You’re an absolute weapon. Most of your posts are criticising other Stoke fans. It’s pathetic Rather than the club , manager and the team you mean, Numb nuts. Insecure Kev Defender of the realm 😆 |
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Post by george2again on Oct 29, 2023 6:33:11 GMT
I’ve criticised Neil plenty but more than happy to eat some humble pie. We’ve just beaten 3 of the best sides in the division for my money, certainly 3 potential top 6 sides. Today was easily our best performance of the season carrying on from our second best. Tough game up next but confidence must be high He deserves praise for turning it around from the brink but let's see if its not a flash in the pan before we get carried away. We had a similar run last season and it all went to shit soon after. Most of AN’s tenure at Stoke has been bloody awful. To be convinced of his credentials the team needs to show a sustained run of form. Last March saw a flutter of good form then a drop of the cliff after the Bristol home game. The Cardiff game has a similar feeling to that Bristol game for me. Consistency is the key. Great feeling winningvthre in a row for a change. |
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Post by idle on Oct 29, 2023 7:39:08 GMT
This thread is hilarious. If I'm reading the room well, those of us that did not keep our powder dry through 12 months of swamp football should now somehow kneel at the altar of those who did. Based on what? One week of admittedly fantastic performances? Why? I mean, don't get me wrong, the last two games in particular have been fantastic. But where the fuck has this level of performance been for a year? Gel, gel, gel. We need to gel they have decried. But honestly, it shouldn't take 3 months to get eleven blokes to press as a team like we have this last week. We've got some decent players. It's not unreasonable to question why they haven't been more effective prior to the phoenix style rebirth week since Sunderland. Anyone who suggests that support for this manager, before this week, was based on anything other than blind hope or admirable optimism is talking crap. There were so few positives to take from so many of our early season wallopings it's untrue. Ipswich, in particular we were woefully unprepared for. Millwall, Preston and Hull were a shambles too. If criticism of the manager one week leads to calls for humble pie devouring the next, we might as well just close this thread down. It can take 3 months when half the squad is injured. Those international breaks also makes it harder for the few who's away and is supposed to be in the 1st 11 like Johnson. The way I see it (and I said AN should get these 5 matches from Sunderland to Coventry and get a minimum of 9 points from them or be sacked), is that some of those critical knows no bounds of their criticism. It way over the top. Page after page of essentially "They're all shite". The manager is shit, the players are shit, the owners are shit. And neither are capable of learning or improving. And of course, no real analysis of what's wrong apart from who they think whould be starting. Players have good and bad spells and form. Very few are consistently good, and if they were they'll get sold in the next window. Which player has not recieved harsh criticism on here this season? I can't think of anyone except Vidigal and Bae. Even Travers, Wilmot and Lowe FFS! The expectations are just too high. Like Bayern, who seems to think we have a god given right to be in the PL top 10, and if we're not we're shite. We've been in the second tier or lower for more years than not since the war! 18 new players, and injury crisis (that admittedly seems to happen suspiciously often to us) and a highly competitive division makes success hard to achieve. The parachute payments (that we of course wasted) makes it even harder. But let's wait and see now. We've got a few more games against teams not as good as the last three, but perfectly capable of beating anyone in the league. I'm not expecting us to go on a run with 10 more wins, and neither should anyone else. An unbeaten run of 5 more would be a fantastic achievement, but it's not the end of the world if we lose a game, so long as we keep picking up points. Look at the table, the team in 3rd have lost 3games, Cardiff in 5th have lost 5. We've lost 7 and are 4 points off. |
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Post by felonious on Oct 29, 2023 8:19:22 GMT
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Post by roylandstoke on Oct 29, 2023 8:21:53 GMT
He’s got 3 great results after getting most of his squad back fit.
We have finally had some luck. We need to bear that in mind. We have not suddenly become Man City.
Sunderland hit the post late on.
Farke gambled with his selection on Wednesday and lost because Bamford skied a penalty.
Boro were weakened slightly by a few key injuries.
We made the most out good fortune. The manager deserves great praise for preparing 3 winning teams.
He needs to keep getting results.
The shit show that came at the end of last season must not be repeated.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 29, 2023 8:22:01 GMT
I have probably been one of Neils biggest critics since he joined the club and would have had no qualms if he’d been sacked at any point before the Sunderland game, however the last 3 games have shown the signs of a very good team (I know we’ve had false dawns before) and also shown just how good our summer recruitment was, even if we neglected a few positions. Dare I say it, we’re also seeing signs of a clear identity on the pitch as well. Onwards and upwards now, everyone is behind the team, let’s make this a season to remember We've had a great week but a terrible year. Doesn't change that. Hopefully though it's a start and we can carry on. If he'd been sacked with his record then he couldn't have felt hard done by so no pie needed. |
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Post by peterthornesboots on Oct 29, 2023 10:35:16 GMT
I still have huge reservations about AN, but fair play to him! A few weeks ago it was difficult to see him lasting until Christmas and then he has pulled out three fantastic wins against very good teams.
You look at our run of games running up to the New Year and there are lots of winnable games coming up. I am not quite on the "promotion charge" bandwagon just yet, but it feels nice to be looking up the table rather than over our shoulders.
The last three game have been really enjoyable. Work rate. Organisation. Character. Plus a sprinkling of quality (and luck) at the right times.
Long may it continue!
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Post by OldStokie on Oct 29, 2023 12:57:21 GMT
It just goes to show that bringing in 17 new players and waiting for them to gel is a hard thing to do for any manager. Then add in the awful run of injuries to key players and it becomes even more difficult. The injured players are now back and the team are getting to know one another better and wa-la... we're beginning to look like a very good side. What is surprising this last 3 games is how Neil is using the whole squad of players to achieve this. Before every game Neil gets shit thrown at him for some of his selections but results have proved he's right and knows what he's doing. Way to go yet but it's beginning to look promising so long may it continue. I can't remember feeling so positive after just a week of three performances. Yes, we've rode our luck at times but that's only making up for some of the bad luck we've been having. Can we make it four out of four?  OS. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 29, 2023 13:00:29 GMT
It just goes to show that bringing in 17 new players and waiting for them to gel is a hard thing to do for any manager. Then add in the awful run of injuries to key players and it becomes even more difficult. The injured players are now back and the team are getting to know one another better and wa-la... we're beginning to look like a very good side. What is surprising this last 3 games is how Neil is using the whole squad of players to achieve this. Before every game Neil gets shit thrown at him for some of his selections but results have proved he's right and knows what he's doing. Way to go yet but it's beginning to look promising so long may it continue. I can't remember feeling so positive after just a week of three performances. Yes, we've rode our luck at times but that's only making up for some of the bad luck we've been having. Can we make it four out of four? OS. Very true but we've also lost half of our games this season. |
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Post by glpotter on Oct 29, 2023 13:07:22 GMT
This thread is hilarious. If I'm reading the room well, those of us that did not keep our powder dry through 12 months of swamp football should now somehow kneel at the altar of those who did. Based on what? One week of admittedly fantastic performances? Why? I mean, don't get me wrong, the last two games in particular have been fantastic. But where the fuck has this level of performance been for a year? Gel, gel, gel. We need to gel they have decried. But honestly, it shouldn't take 3 months to get eleven blokes to press as a team like we have this last week. We've got some decent players. It's not unreasonable to question why they haven't been more effective prior to the phoenix style rebirth week since Sunderland. Anyone who suggests that support for this manager, before this week, was based on anything other than blind hope or admirable optimism is talking crap. There were so few positives to take from so many of our early season wallopings it's untrue. Ipswich, in particular we were woefully unprepared for. Millwall, Preston and Hull were a shambles too. If criticism of the manager one week leads to calls for humble pie devouring the next, we might as well just close this thread down. 100% |
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Post by baconburger on Oct 29, 2023 13:12:12 GMT
It just goes to show that bringing in 17 new players and waiting for them to gel is a hard thing to do for any manager. Then add in the awful run of injuries to key players and it becomes even more difficult. The injured players are now back and the team are getting to know one another better and wa-la... we're beginning to look like a very good side. What is surprising this last 3 games is how Neil is using the whole squad of players to achieve this. Before every game Neil gets shit thrown at him for some of his selections but results have proved he's right and knows what he's doing. Way to go yet but it's beginning to look promising so long may it continue. I can't remember feeling so positive after just a week of three performances. Yes, we've rode our luck at times but that's only making up for some of the bad luck we've been having. Can we make it four out of four? OS. We’ve won 3 on the bounce with what many would consider vital players still out and players who many fans feel should be starting not doing so. Our options from the bench seem to be a lot better than for a number of seasons. All points to a pretty bloody good job done in the Summer even though it’s easy to be greedy and unreasonable in saying we could have done with a couple more. Don’t think AN can take all the credit for that nor has he given a few of them as many minutes as we might like but whilst it’s working we can’t really complain. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Oct 29, 2023 13:19:03 GMT
A long way to go.
But these last three games really have been a big step forward.
And got all the criticism of him, you really have to recognise he’s got his tactics and selections pretty much spot on recently.
Hope it continues. Obviously.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 29, 2023 15:05:45 GMT
$64,000 hypothetical question.
Would you prefer to see John Eustace in our dugout v Cardiff or stick with AN?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 29, 2023 15:07:30 GMT
$64,000 hypothetical question. Would you prefer to see John Eustace in our dugout v Cardiff or stick with AN? WTF are you on about🙄 |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 29, 2023 16:15:41 GMT
$64,000 hypothetical question. Would you prefer to see John Eustace in our dugout v Cardiff or stick with AN? WTF are you on about🙄 Before the Sunderland game there was a clamour on here for Eustace to replace Neil after he was sacked by Brum. A week later is the preference for Eustace over Neil still as strong? |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 29, 2023 16:17:16 GMT
Before the Sunderland game there was a clamour on here for Eustace to replace Neil after he was sacked by Brum. A week later is the preference for Eustace over Neil still as strong? Clamour🤣🤣Ok mate |
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Post by marwood on Oct 29, 2023 16:39:43 GMT
$64,000 hypothetical question. Would you prefer to see John Eustace in our dugout v Cardiff or stick with AN? No. Just no |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 29, 2023 20:18:03 GMT
I have probably been one of Neils biggest critics since he joined the club and would have had no qualms if he’d been sacked at any point before the Sunderland game, however the last 3 games have shown the signs of a very good team (I know we’ve had false dawns before) and also shown just how good our summer recruitment was, even if we neglected a few positions. Dare I say it, we’re also seeing signs of a clear identity on the pitch as well. Onwards and upwards now, everyone is behind the team, let’s make this a season to remember So basically when things weren't going well you stuck the knife in, now it's going well you're telling everyone to get behind the team but should things not go well no doubt you'll stick the knife back in again. Well done. Your support is much appreciated. |
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Post by smallthorner on Oct 29, 2023 20:56:56 GMT
You just know that we are going to lose our next two games and everyone will be on the AN out bandwagon again.
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Post by kjpt140v on Oct 29, 2023 23:43:00 GMT
Rather than the club , manager and the team you mean, Numb nuts. Insecure Kev Defender of the realm 😆 Never. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 29, 2023 23:51:43 GMT
You just know that we are going to lose our next two games and everyone will be on the AN out bandwagon again. I’d sack him tomorrow still. There’s some fickle fuckers about 🤣 |
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 30, 2023 9:54:07 GMT
You just know that we are going to lose our next two games and everyone will be on the AN out bandwagon again. Count me out. I've always said give him till December to get his new squad performing. It took Hughes till November to start winning regularly and he was building on what Pulis left. If we are in the mire then, then replace him so a new manager has time to assess things and decide what is needed before the January transfer window. Last January saw change that brought success for a short time in February and March with just 3 defeats in 12 Matches, with almost the same players MON left us. Then Neil lost the plot again in April. I don't know why but I suspect most of the players got wise that they would be shipped out in the summer, so why bother. Edit PS Just read that Neil is the current 6th longest serving manager in the Championship! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2023 12:46:08 GMT
I don't think he'll be under pressure now unless we are in relegation trouble.
I think we've got things wrong in the summer transfer window regarding goalkeeper, centre back and striker, but I don't think those decisions that were made lay solely with him.
The signings we DID make are looking good, and I suppose that is a key thing everyone should focus on. If they can add the CB, striker and GK we've missed then we really would be in business
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Oct 30, 2023 12:50:02 GMT
You just know that we are going to lose our next two games and everyone will be on the AN out bandwagon again. I’d sack him tomorrow still. There’s some fickle fuckers about 🤣 Makes complete sense 👏 |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 30, 2023 13:33:05 GMT
I’d sack him tomorrow still. There’s some fickle fuckers about 🤣 Makes complete sense 👏 Well why not? 3 wins doesn’t change what I’ve thought about him for 15 months. Why would it? I mean it’s academic because it’s bought him another 10 years in charge. |
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Post by knype on Oct 30, 2023 13:36:36 GMT
Well why not? 3 wins doesn’t change what I’ve thought about him for 15 months. Why would it? I mean it’s academic because it’s bought him another 10 years in charge. Good job your opinion on football means jack schitt |
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Post by glpotter on Oct 30, 2023 15:12:59 GMT
Well why not? 3 wins doesn’t change what I’ve thought about him for 15 months. Why would it? I mean it’s academic because it’s bought him another 10 years in charge. Whilst it shouldn’t we know it has bought him that time. 3 wins in a row is fantastic but shouldn’t make you untouchable We have to be consistent but I wouldn’t be shocked if we went down without a trace at home to Cardiff this weekend Be the most stoke thing in the whole world |
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