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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 28, 2024 11:48:12 GMT
Both players are worth about 500k for me so a swap wouldn’t be bad as long as we weren’t giving them money. Baker is better. How is Gallagher worth £500k? Blackburn have turned down £800k for him Therefore he's worth more than that £500k gets you an Ennis He’s a shit striker. So about 500k. Ennis is worth nothing. If we paid 500k for him Schumacher should be sacked.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 28, 2024 11:50:53 GMT
How is Gallagher worth £500k? Blackburn have turned down £800k for him Therefore he's worth more than that £500k gets you an Ennis He’s a shit striker. So about 500k. Ennis is worth nothing. If we paid 500k for him Schumacher should be sacked. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Bayernsworld.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 28, 2024 11:53:25 GMT
He’s a shit striker. So about 500k. Ennis is worth nothing. If we paid 500k for him Schumacher should be sacked. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Bayernsworld. No one can seriously think Ennis is worth 500k? He’d look poor in League One. If we paid over 50k then serious questions have to be asked. Gallagher has been poor in this league and done nothing to command over 500k.
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Post by lordb on Jul 28, 2024 11:55:33 GMT
No one can seriously think Ennis is worth 500k? He’d look poor in League One. If we paid over 50k then serious questions have to be asked. Gallagher has been poor in this league and done nothing to command over 500k. Your confusing market value, otherwise known as worth, with your opinions of a player
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 28, 2024 11:59:00 GMT
No one can seriously think Ennis is worth 500k? He’d look poor in League One. If we paid over 50k then serious questions have to be asked. Gallagher has been poor in this league and done nothing to command over 500k. Your confusing market value, otherwise known as worth, with your opinions of a player I’m confusing nothing. If paid 500k for Ennis then the manager should not be in a job and should not be trusted with another penny. I don’t believe for one second we paid even close to that for him.
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 28, 2024 12:01:03 GMT
Your confusing market value, otherwise known as worth, with your opinions of a player I’m confusing nothing. If paid 500k for Ennis then the manager should not be in a job and should not be trusted with another penny. I don’t believe for one second we paid even close to that for him. Head Coaches don’t sign players anymore do they?
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Post by lordb on Jul 28, 2024 12:01:38 GMT
Your confusing market value, otherwise known as worth, with your opinions of a player I’m confusing nothing. If paid 500k for Ennis then the manager should not be in a job and should not be trusted with another penny. I don’t believe for one second we paid even close to that for him. Well we don't know as it was undisclosed but that fee was hinted at I agree he's not good enough but his worth was £500k if that's what we paid for him It's absolutely certain £500k will not get you Sam Gallagher Tbh I doubt there is a striker we can sign from anywhere for £500k who will be good enough
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 28, 2024 12:04:00 GMT
I’m confusing nothing. If paid 500k for Ennis then the manager should not be in a job and should not be trusted with another penny. I don’t believe for one second we paid even close to that for him. Head Coaches don’t sign players anymore do they? Of course they can recommend players and say they want them. Again if you don’t think Ennis was a Schumacher signing that’s very much a you issue.
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Post by nonameface on Jul 28, 2024 12:08:04 GMT
Have to play to his strengths if we are to play him.
He doesn’t tackle and when he does he loses it. It really is a case that if he’s not playing as an advanced midfielder with limited defensive responsibilities we get cut open. FBref has him in the bottom 13%, but seriously have we ever seen a more open midfield than with him in it?
He’s really good in the air for a midfielder, which does help us to not be dominated in that way like how we did when Joe Allen was in midfield. Long range passing isn’t something he likes to do, but for slow and steady short passes he’s good. He’s not very good at running with the ball. So that doesn’t suit Schumachers high risk movement and high tempo passing.
As a finisher and creating assists his XG and XA are high, as you’d expect, it’s when he comes to life. He’s technique for striking a ball is easily premier league level.
Good player that really suited MON football because of the ball retention with getting the team set up high to create a chance, didn’t suit AN because he was too deep where he wouldn’t have as many chances to shoot from range or to do a short range pass to play someone in. For SS he’s just not all action enough.
Either we change the tactics for him or we move him on and get a more suited midfielder.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2024 12:41:28 GMT
No one can seriously think Ennis is worth 500k? He’d look poor in League One. If we paid over 50k then serious questions have to be asked. Gallagher has been poor in this league and done nothing to command over 500k. He didn’t look poor in league one. He’s been there and looked good.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jul 28, 2024 12:44:21 GMT
Your confusing market value, otherwise known as worth, with your opinions of a player I’m confusing nothing. If paid 500k for Ennis then the manager should not be in a job and should not be trusted with another penny. I don’t believe for one second we paid even close to that for him. What you believe we paid and what you think a player is worth is irrelevant
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 28, 2024 13:14:24 GMT
Head Coaches don’t sign players anymore do they? Of course they can recommend players and say they want them. Again if you don’t think Ennis was a Schumacher signing that’s very much a you issue. They can recommend as much as they like, the final decision on transfers lies elsewhere hence Martin losing his job a few weeks after the January window closed.
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Post by thornestein on Jul 28, 2024 13:20:04 GMT
I’m confusing nothing. If paid 500k for Ennis then the manager should not be in a job and should not be trusted with another penny. I don’t believe for one second we paid even close to that for him. Well we don't know as it was undisclosed but that fee was hinted at I agree he's not good enough but his worth was £500k if that's what we paid for him It's absolutely certain £500k will not get you Sam Gallagher Tbh I doubt there is a striker we can sign from anywhere for £500k who will be good enough 500k should get you gallagher and we’d be daft to pay more
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Post by baconburger on Jul 28, 2024 14:54:14 GMT
Of course they can recommend players and say they want them. Again if you don’t think Ennis was a Schumacher signing that’s very much a you issue. They can recommend as much as they like, the final decision on transfers lies elsewhere hence Martin losing his job a few weeks after the January window closed. Yet I actually heard RM say in an interview that his was not the dominant voice in player selection. His main role was closing deals on the players that "the process" had decided to pursue. Must have been a lying bastard and you know different
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jul 28, 2024 14:57:37 GMT
They can recommend as much as they like, the final decision on transfers lies elsewhere hence Martin losing his job a few weeks after the January window closed. Yet I actually heard RM say in an interview that his was not the dominant voice in player selection. His main role was closing deals on the players that "the process" had decided to pursue. Must have been a lying bastard and you know different Who is RM? Richard Madeley? Harry Corbett now him No wonder we can't get deals done
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Post by baconburger on Jul 28, 2024 15:01:49 GMT
Yet I actually heard RM say in an interview that his was not the dominant voice in player selection. His main role was closing deals on the players that "the process" had decided to pursue. Must have been a lying bastard and you know different Who is RM? Richard Madeley? Harry Corbett now him No wonder we can't get deals done Ricky Martin. And he didn’t seem like the sort of character to downplay his own role, the opposite actually. I think maybe you’re being deliberately dim.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 28, 2024 15:04:17 GMT
Your confusing market value, otherwise known as worth, with your opinions of a player I’m confusing nothing. If paid 500k for Ennis then the manager should not be in a job and should not be trusted with another penny. I don’t believe for one second we paid even close to that for him. Stop talking shite, by that logic any manager that paid 50p for Tom Ince should be sacked…
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jul 28, 2024 15:12:53 GMT
Who is RM? Richard Madeley? Harry Corbett now him No wonder we can't get deals done Ricky Martin. And he didn’t seem like the sort of character to downplay his own role, the opposite actually. I think maybe you’re being deliberately dim. What does dim mean?
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Post by baconburger on Jul 28, 2024 15:14:04 GMT
Ricky Martin. And he didn’t seem like the sort of character to downplay his own role, the opposite actually. I think maybe you’re being deliberately dim. What does dim mean? The opposite to bright🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by baconburger on Jul 28, 2024 15:30:53 GMT
The opposite to bright🤣🤣🤣🤣 You sound like one of those people they have on shows like Mastermind and Catchphrase to be fair. I was kept back so many times at school , I used to pick my own kids up at the prep on the way home. Mastermind and catchphrase and you think there is any equivalence. You’re kind of doing my job for me. I’d prefer 15:1 all general knowledge and no specialist subjects. People might look down on Weatherspoons guest ales 2000-2024.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jul 28, 2024 15:44:44 GMT
You sound like one of those people they have on shows like Mastermind and Catchphrase to be fair. I was kept back so many times at school , I used to pick my own kids up at the prep on the way home. Mastermind and catchphrase and you think there is any equivalence. You’re kind of doing my job for me. I’d prefer 15:1 all general knowledge and no specialist subjects. People might look down on Weatherspoons guest ales 2000-2024. Top Cat would be my subject excluding Beverly Hills Cats as not a real episode for me Not in the spirit of the show
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 28, 2024 15:50:19 GMT
They can recommend as much as they like, the final decision on transfers lies elsewhere hence Martin losing his job a few weeks after the January window closed. Yet I actually heard RM say in an interview that his was not the dominant voice in player selection. His main role was closing deals on the players that "the process" had decided to pursue. Must have been a lying bastard and you know different I see. So it’s actually the head coach who signs the players? Maybe you know better and can enlighten us on “the process” ?
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Post by baconburger on Jul 28, 2024 16:00:50 GMT
Yet I actually heard RM say in an interview that his was not the dominant voice in player selection. His main role was closing deals on the players that "the process" had decided to pursue. Must have been a lying bastard and you know different I see. So it’s actually the head coach who signs the players? Maybe you know better and can enlighten us on “the process” ? The process is it’s a combined effort by the members of the technical board. JC explained who was on it and why. Him, the manager/HC, the TD/SD and the bloke who used to be club secretary who has some new fancy title. The HoR isn’t /wasnt even a member but does present to them. Why is it so difficult to grasp?? Who do you think has the ultimate say? The bloke who pays the bills as it always should be.
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 28, 2024 16:04:38 GMT
I see. So it’s actually the head coach who signs the players? Maybe you know better and can enlighten us on “the process” ? The process is it’s a combined effort by the members of the technical board. JC explained who was on it and why. Him, the manager/HC, the TD/SD and the bloke who used to be club secretary who has some new fancy title. The HoR isn’t /wasnt even a member but does present to them. Why is it so difficult to grasp?? If it’s a such a “combined effort” then why was Ricky Martin sacked in February after a calamitous transfer window?
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Post by thornestein on Jul 28, 2024 16:06:14 GMT
The process is it’s a combined effort by the members of the technical board. JC explained who was on it and why. Him, the manager/HC, the TD/SD and the bloke who used to be club secretary who has some new fancy title. The HoR isn’t /wasnt even a member but does present to them. Why is it so difficult to grasp?? If it’s a such a “combined effort” then why was Ricky Martin sacked in February after a calamitous transfer window? i doubt he was sacked because of the window , more like because he was a fraud at everything he did
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 28, 2024 16:07:02 GMT
If it’s a such a “combined effort” then why was Ricky Martin sacked in February after a calamitous transfer window? i doubt he was sacked because of the window , more like because he was a fraud at everything he did Like what? (Genuine question)
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Post by baconburger on Jul 28, 2024 16:10:27 GMT
The process is it’s a combined effort by the members of the technical board. JC explained who was on it and why. Him, the manager/HC, the TD/SD and the bloke who used to be club secretary who has some new fancy title. The HoR isn’t /wasnt even a member but does present to them. Why is it so difficult to grasp?? If it’s a such a “combined effort” then why was Ricky Martin sacked in February after a calamitous transfer window? Calamitous? One in which it looks like we signed yet another player in that period we could make a decent profit on?? The SD and HC will have a footballing input so will the HoR from a slightly different perspective. The bloke who used to be the secretary is meant to be the expert on what sort of package we’re in a position to offer any player agreed upon. After listening to them all JC will give it the green light or thumbs down. Still too complicated for you??
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Post by baconburger on Jul 28, 2024 16:11:10 GMT
i doubt he was sacked because of the window , more like because he was a fraud at everything he did Like what? (Genuine question) He was said to be creating a very poor workplace atmosphere for 1. By being a billy big bollox.
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Post by thornestein on Jul 28, 2024 16:11:27 GMT
i doubt he was sacked because of the window , more like because he was a fraud at everything he did Like what? (Genuine question) you ever listen to him , he was full of bs jargon , a total fraud of a bloke , his role wasn’t just about recruitment, about the whole of the running of the football side , he was disliked by most of the staff
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 28, 2024 16:11:49 GMT
If it’s a such a “combined effort” then why was Ricky Martin sacked in February after a calamitous transfer window? Calamitous? One in which it looks like we signed yet another player in that period we could make a decent profit on?? The SD and HC will have a footballing input so will the HoR from a slightly different perspective. The bloke who used to be the secretary is meant to be the expert on what sort of package we’re in a position to offer any player agreed upon. After listening to them all JC will give it the green light or thumbs down. Still too complicated for you?? So why was the SD/TD sacked in that case?
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