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Post by stokest5 on Feb 9, 2024 16:12:48 GMT
The real shame of this is, after coming back from his injuries, he started to look the real deal and was excellent at Watford. I thought if we can keep him fit and firing, he'd have a really strong 2nd half to the season. Schuey took him off that night and admitted he was wrong in doing so. Mmaee didn't look happy at all and has seemed to sulk since. Just when we think we've got a decent striker on our hands............ Hopefully the managers stance gives him a kick up the arse and he can find that form again. I just hope the fans stay patient with him, if he isn't amazing the first game he comes back, don't get on his back. On that note, I hated hearing the reception for Campbell being subbed against Leicester. I know he was shite and has been all season but we all know there is a player in there that can help us and ironically cheering him off isn't going to help. He’s so far been absolutely no where near looking the real deal!
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Post by idle on Feb 9, 2024 16:38:08 GMT
The fee was a significant one in our current circumstances. He is 26. He is not really a development player. We should expect a “senior pro” and regular first choice player for the investment we have made. He seems to be neither. Arnie was a young 24 and almost certain to be sold for at least half what we paid even if he failed at Stoke. I don’t see anyone paying a fee for Ryan Maee anytime soon. Elijah Adebayo was a gamble when Luton took him from League 2 to the Championship. Ryan Maee was a major signing for a club in our position. He would have been a relatively risk free gamble for us 5 years ago. Ryan Mmaee was in no way a major signing. The names I listed are major signings. He was never even meant to be the major attacking signing in our Summer. That’s why we chased other targets including those listed and BTA right upto the deadline. He was a cheap punt that everyone is up in arms about with hindsight about every risk because it’s not worked out. I maintain despite our league position that our Summer business would reap more than the total we spent on it. The two things are not particularly linked, we could well have achieved a higher position by spending even more dead money. It’s not an approach I want to see(short termism). While I've disagreed with you on how good Mmaee is (or rather could be), this is pretty much spot on. You don't get a "proven" striker in the championship for less than £2M period. All the names above (Simms, Cannon, Stewart) are punts with some serios reservations for how good they actually are. Simms and Cannon because they're young and largely unproven, Stewart because of the major injury. Time will tell if we recoup our money, but he needs to change his attitude to succeed.
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Post by frasier37 on Feb 9, 2024 16:45:55 GMT
Brilliant, let's hope hes to his word because we need the lad
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Post by thebakerman on Feb 9, 2024 17:10:12 GMT
be nice if he could speak for himself not through his management
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Post by bertiestan on Feb 9, 2024 17:10:58 GMT
Oooooh here he fucking is🙄😂 bit late to the party sunshine Back to the UK next week I’ll be able to up my game, sorry. Stay where you are cocker😂
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 9, 2024 17:18:46 GMT
That statement has put the ball in the manager’s court to bring him back having sort of apologised? Bollocks has it. The ball is firmly still in Mmaee's court. He still very much has to prove he means what his agent says. Actions speak louder than words. Sort of apologising isn't good enough. Get your head down and behave yourself.
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 9, 2024 17:22:42 GMT
It would suit all parties if he were to knuckle down and force his way back into the team, we can ill afford to write off his transfer fee, which we will have to if he doesn't come back into the fold.
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Post by boothenender on Feb 9, 2024 17:32:15 GMT
Mmaee " happy to prove him self for the rest of the season"
He wants out, if a decent enough bid comes get shot of him ASAP. Bad attitude, he will cause trouble behind SS's back.
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Post by Scouse on Feb 9, 2024 17:47:47 GMT
I suggest he needs to go through 3 stages first .. 4 if you include the fans
1) Accept his punishment
2) Apologise to his manager , coaches and team mates … and importantly to the owners , who ultimately pay his wages .. for the disrespect previously shown .. all standard stuff in these type of circumstances
3) Prove to his manager he’s genuine by actions rather than words
4) if given the opportunity on the field , win over fans by performances that show he’s no longer disrespecting the club and instead trying to save it from relegation rather than directly contributing to its demise
His representatives statement whilst welcomed is through a 3rd party and is an acknowledgement of wrong doing which may open the way for stages 1-4 , but is just that , an acknowledgement via a 3rd party ..it’s not an apology in any shape or form ..and his representatives would do well to understand that the club does and expects to conduct much of its business quietly and privately without introducing 3rd party pressures
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Post by lordb on Feb 9, 2024 17:50:49 GMT
Ryan Mmaee was in no way a major signing. The names I listed are major signings. He was never even meant to be the major attacking signing in our Summer. That’s why we chased other targets including those listed and BTA right upto the deadline. He was a cheap punt that everyone is up in arms about with hindsight about every risk because it’s not worked out. I maintain despite our league position that our Summer business would reap more than the total we spent on it. The two things are not particularly linked, we could well have achieved a higher position by spending even more dead money. It’s not an approach I want to see(short termism). While I've disagreed with you on how good Mmaee is (or rather could be), this is pretty much spot on. You don't get a "proven" striker in the championship for less than £2M period. All the names above (Simms, Cannon, Stewart) are punts with some serios reservations for how good they actually are. Simms and Cannon because they're young and largely unproven, Stewart because of the major injury. Time will tell if we recoup our money, but he needs to change his attitude to succeed. The other £££ factor is Mmaee wages will be less than all those plsyers He was a cheap punt
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 9, 2024 18:12:03 GMT
I wonder who the club use for HR advice. Same company as the Post Office
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Post by roylandstoke on Feb 9, 2024 18:25:36 GMT
While I've disagreed with you on how good Mmaee is (or rather could be), this is pretty much spot on. You don't get a "proven" striker in the championship for less than £2M period. All the names above (Simms, Cannon, Stewart) are punts with some serios reservations for how good they actually are. Simms and Cannon because they're young and largely unproven, Stewart because of the major injury. Time will tell if we recoup our money, but he needs to change his attitude to succeed. The other £££ factor is Mmaee wages will be less than all those plsyers He was a cheap punt Cheap and so far, awful value. Currently level with Rotherham’s Hakeem Odiffin.
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Post by baconburger on Feb 9, 2024 18:28:13 GMT
Back to the UK next week I’ll be able to up my game, sorry. Stay where you are cocker😂 Nothing would please me more. Unfortunately due to pet care responsibilities and Brexit restrictions I can only stay so long. The UK in February really doesn’t hold any great allure. Never mind could be worse.
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Post by baconburger on Feb 9, 2024 18:30:00 GMT
The other £££ factor is Mmaee wages will be less than all those plsyers He was a cheap punt Cheap and so far, awful value. Currently level with Rotherham’s Hakeem Odiffin. That’s the nature of speculation. Sometimes you lose.
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Post by Eggybread on Feb 9, 2024 18:41:32 GMT
Just want to see some of this please Ryan.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 9, 2024 18:43:48 GMT
Schumacher pretty damning in his Fans Forum comments:
"He wasn't being a good team-mate, showing the respect for the staff or his team-mates that they deserved"
"Until it changes , and it's over to him, he'll have to prove in his behaviour, to me and everyone else that he's willing to be part of this club and part of this team"
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Post by lordb on Feb 9, 2024 18:44:55 GMT
The other £££ factor is Mmaee wages will be less than all those plsyers He was a cheap punt Cheap and so far, awful value. Currently level with Rotherham’s Hakeem Odiffin. That's cheap punts for you whatever our summer budget is would look for most of it to go on as quality goalscorer as we can get
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Post by baconburger on Feb 9, 2024 18:50:53 GMT
Just want to see some of this please Ryan. Yeah. It’s a big ask but man up and start showing some enthusiasm for the game and you might still prove a lot of us wrong but so far you’ve shown us next to nothing.
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Post by march4 on Feb 9, 2024 19:35:17 GMT
I wonder who the club use for HR advice. Same company as the Post Office Hope that’s a joke.
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Post by bertiestan on Feb 9, 2024 20:58:54 GMT
Just want to see some of this please Ryan. Still have some whoppers on here saying he’s a shit footballer🤦🏼♂️😂
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Post by premieraj on Feb 9, 2024 21:02:18 GMT
On all those clips he’s running forward with the ball? He’s never done that for us?
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Post by yellowsnowman on Feb 9, 2024 21:28:20 GMT
On all those clips he’s running forward with the ball? He’s never done that for us? He looks totally different in those clips to what i have seen at Stoke.. Is it confidence or adjusting still? Plus poor attitude. Would love him to come good for us. So frustrating.
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Post by Son of Sausage on Feb 9, 2024 22:03:08 GMT
Brilliant, let's hope hes to his word because we need the lad Be nice if he came out and openly apologized to the fans aswell as pussy footing back to his management staff to do something he has to do to is the absolute bare minimum he could've done.
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Post by frasier37 on Feb 9, 2024 22:09:38 GMT
Brilliant, let's hope hes to his word because we need the lad Be nice if he came out and openly apologized to the fans aswell as pussy footing back to his management staff to do something he has to do to is the absolute bare minimum he could've done. I dont need him to apologise to me. Just him and SS sort their differences like grown ups and get on that pitch asap because he's needed
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2024 22:13:01 GMT
On all those clips he’s running forward with the ball? He’s never done that for us? He looks totally different in those clips to what i have seen at Stoke.. Is it confidence or adjusting still? Plus poor attitude. Would love him to come good for us. So frustrating. In the championship defenders can run through you. They can kick right through you to get the ball. You can't just go down and hope for free kicks, the refs don't give them. It's much more physical and faster paced than the cypriot or Hungarian leagues.
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Post by telfordstokie on Feb 10, 2024 5:50:20 GMT
Mmae’s people coming out with that statement is a big win for the manager - Schumacher has laid a benchmark now about expected standards and what happens if you don’t meet them.
Also them giving that statement to Teamtalk does give the game away a bit about where their ‘80 per cent of the squad for sale’ story came from….
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Post by george2again on Feb 10, 2024 7:51:59 GMT
Mmae’s people coming out with that statement is a big win for the manager - Schumacher has laid a benchmark now about expected standards and what happens if you don’t meet them. Also them giving that statement to Teamtalk does give the game away a bit about where their ‘80 per cent of the squad for sale’ story came from…. No body seems to have said it but clearly the manager doesn’t rate him and these ‘issues’ became an opportunity to hawk him him out on deadline day. Too slow and to lazy in mind and body for the way. SS likes his front line.
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Post by thisisouryear on Feb 10, 2024 8:07:11 GMT
Let's hope this is the making of him, Schuey has handled this exceptionally well and will no doubt be pleased with what Mmaee has had to say but his actions now need to start doing the talking.
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Post by idle on Feb 10, 2024 8:13:46 GMT
Mmae’s people coming out with that statement is a big win for the manager - Schumacher has laid a benchmark now about expected standards and what happens if you don’t meet them. Also them giving that statement to Teamtalk does give the game away a bit about where their ‘80 per cent of the squad for sale’ story came from…. No body seems to have said it but clearly the manager doesn’t rate him and these ‘issues’ became an opportunity to hawk him him out on deadline day. That's just in your head. SS has said nothing of the sort. This kind of speculation says more about how you rate Mmaee than what SS does. Nothing "clearly" about it.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 10, 2024 8:22:38 GMT
I just hope that if and when Mmaee does come back that the fans give him a chance as the worst thing that could happen would for him to come out to a chorus of boos. He’s only shown it in glimpses but there’s a talent there if he’s in the right frame of mind.
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