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Mmaee
Feb 10, 2024 8:52:20 GMT
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Post by thestatusquo on Feb 10, 2024 8:52:20 GMT
I wonder who the club use for HR advice. Alan Sugar
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Mmaee
Feb 10, 2024 9:05:02 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Feb 10, 2024 9:05:02 GMT
No body seems to have said it but clearly the manager doesn’t rate him and these ‘issues’ became an opportunity to hawk him him out on deadline day. That's just in your head. SS has said nothing of the sort. This kind of speculation says more about how you rate Mmaee than what SS does. Nothing "clearly" about it. Believe me if he was banging them in they’d have found another way of managing him. There’s no way his level of performance on match days isn’t a contributing factor in the way they’ve handled this.
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Mmaee
Feb 10, 2024 9:09:32 GMT
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Post by thestatusquo on Feb 10, 2024 9:09:32 GMT
The fact it’s his management company making the statement and not him directly troubles me. They’ve done it because it had to be done. There could be no other outcome unless he’d left the club and it looks as though they tried. Being in dispute with the club means there’s only one winner and he could be punished financially aswell. Once resentment gets to this kind of level it rarely ever goes away and grudges remain. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see him moving on in the summer
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Mmaee
Feb 10, 2024 9:16:08 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2024 9:16:08 GMT
The statement is one written by a lawyer. It's not him.
He's positioning himself for legal action.
That's what I read into that. If he cared he would approach colleagues and management and apologise then prove his desire in training.
It's a 100% certainty this joker will never play for stoke again but will want his contract paid up before he leaves. Another few million wasted and frankly, the club deserves and probably needs relegation given all the mistakes it's made in the transfer market.
If I was the coach I'd let the u21 know that mmaee is fair game in training. Batter him. Claim insurance when he's injured!
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Post by pistol on Feb 10, 2024 9:18:28 GMT
The statement is one written by a lawyer. It's not him. He's positioning himself for legal action. That's what I read into that. If he cared he would approach colleagues and management and apologise then prove his desire in training. It's a 100% certainty this joker will never play for stoke again but will want his contract paid up before he leaves. Another few million wasted and frankly, the club deserves and probably needs relegation given all the mistakes it's made in the transfer market. If I was the coach I'd let the u21 know that mmaee is fair game in training. Batter him. Claim insurance when he's injured! You know he’s not apologised in person to the manager and his team mates then?
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Mmaee
Feb 10, 2024 9:25:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2024 9:25:18 GMT
The statement is one written by a lawyer. It's not him. He's positioning himself for legal action. That's what I read into that. If he cared he would approach colleagues and management and apologise then prove his desire in training. It's a 100% certainty this joker will never play for stoke again but will want his contract paid up before he leaves. Another few million wasted and frankly, the club deserves and probably needs relegation given all the mistakes it's made in the transfer market. If I was the coach I'd let the u21 know that mmaee is fair game in training. Batter him. Claim insurance when he's injured! You know he’s not apologised in person to the manager and his team mates then? if he had we would hear that. I'm certain.
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Mmaee
Feb 10, 2024 9:32:48 GMT
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Post by pistol on Feb 10, 2024 9:32:48 GMT
You know he’s not apologised in person to the manager and his team mates then? if he had we would hear that. I'm certain. Maybe we will today. Maybe he’ll be on the bench and come on and score a winner, and a statue will be built of him next to the one of James McClean, Brek Shea and Dwight Gayle
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Mmaee
Feb 10, 2024 9:41:00 GMT
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Post by lordb on Feb 10, 2024 9:41:00 GMT
That's just in your head. SS has said nothing of the sort. This kind of speculation says more about how you rate Mmaee than what SS does. Nothing "clearly" about it. Believe me if he was banging them in they’d have found another way of managing him. There’s no way his level of performance on match days isn’t a contributing factor in the way they’ve handled this. The Birmingham match, where we played really well, he should have scored a hat trick still fuming about that game as we should have won comfortably
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Mmaee
Feb 10, 2024 9:44:32 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2024 9:44:32 GMT
Believe me if he was banging them in they’d have found another way of managing him. There’s no way his level of performance on match days isn’t a contributing factor in the way they’ve handled this. The Birmingham match, where we played really well, he should have scored a hat trick still fuming about that game as we should have won comfortably perhaps if he trained properly his finishing wouldn't be so poor and he wouldn't be caught on his heels every time a chance appears in front of him
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Mmaee
Feb 10, 2024 9:50:37 GMT
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Post by lordb on Feb 10, 2024 9:50:37 GMT
The Birmingham match, where we played really well, he should have scored a hat trick still fuming about that game as we should have won comfortably perhaps if he trained properly his finishing wouldn't be so poor and he wouldn't be caught on his heels every time a chance appears in front of him Indeed He's clearly got good technique obviously a proper goalscorer also has that killer instinct, you can't coach that but hard work on the training ground does make a huge difference We saw that with Stein and Sheron where both players had good technique had lost their way and through hard work on the training ground saw incredible results Yes 'on his heels' is a pointed description
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Mmaee
Feb 10, 2024 10:03:51 GMT
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Post by Scrotnig on Feb 10, 2024 10:03:51 GMT
I doubt he’ll ever play for us again. I don’t see a way back for him.
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Mmaee
Feb 10, 2024 10:25:12 GMT
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Feb 10, 2024 10:25:12 GMT
You know he’s not apologised in person to the manager and his team mates then? if he had we would hear that. I'm certain. How can you possibly be certain? It's certainly possible Mmaee hasn't apologized to Schumacher but that will come out in the next couple of weeks. If he's not training with the rest of the squad next week and isn't in contention for the match day squad against Coventry then you are probably right. Until then it's just speculation.
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Mmaee
Feb 10, 2024 10:37:29 GMT
Post by Old School Stokie on Feb 10, 2024 10:37:29 GMT
If he does get a chance in the team again, he must play out of his skin- like some of those videos - he owes Schumacher, the club and the fans big time. It’s down to him now - we could have a decent team even a class of 24 or maybe 25 with all these young players playing as a proper team gelling and growing together and Schumacher is the Manager to do just that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2024 10:44:17 GMT
if he had we would hear that. I'm certain. How can you possibly be certain? It's certainly possible Mmaee hasn't apologized to Schumacher but that will come out in the next couple of weeks. If he's not training with the rest of the squad next week and isn't in contention for the match day squad against Coventry then you are probably right. Until then it's just speculation. It's just something that would be clearly said in the statement though, but as you say, I'm speculating If it turns out he has apologised in person to everyone he's offended I'd be happy to be proven wrong
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Mmaee
Feb 10, 2024 11:02:44 GMT
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Post by ChesterStokie on Feb 10, 2024 11:02:44 GMT
The Birmingham match, where we played really well, he should have scored a hat trick still fuming about that game as we should have won comfortably Perhaps if he trained properly his finishing wouldn't be so poor and he wouldn't be caught on his heels every time a chance appears in front of him Yes that’s exactly what Schuey said after the Birmingham match, without specifically naming Mmaee but we all know who he was was talking about.
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Post by clarkeda on Feb 10, 2024 11:06:42 GMT
Actions speak louder than words. Get your head down, come back score some goals and propel us up the league.
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Mmaee
Feb 10, 2024 11:09:28 GMT
Post by spitthedog on Feb 10, 2024 11:09:28 GMT
You know he’s not apologised in person to the manager and his team mates then? if he had we would hear that. I'm certain. and why not mention that in the press release? A public apology directed to the management and other players would be usual, but this is omitted which is strange in my opinion.
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Post by clarkeda on Feb 10, 2024 11:20:25 GMT
On all those clips he’s running forward with the ball? He’s never done that for us? He looks totally different in those clips to what i have seen at Stoke.. Is it confidence or adjusting still? Plus poor attitude. Would love him to come good for us. So frustrating. Tripled/ quadrupled his wages and thinks he’s big time now would be my guess.
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Post by bertiestan on Feb 10, 2024 11:25:09 GMT
The lads fucked up but come on the sheer Ill feeling towards him is slightly over the top I feel🔴⚪️
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Mmaee
Feb 10, 2024 11:30:33 GMT
Post by idle on Feb 10, 2024 11:30:33 GMT
That's just in your head. SS has said nothing of the sort. This kind of speculation says more about how you rate Mmaee than what SS does. Nothing "clearly" about it. Believe me if he was banging them in they’d have found another way of managing him. There’s no way his level of performance on match days isn’t a contributing factor in the way they’ve handled this. That's different than "doesn't rate him". He rated him enough to prefer him until they clashed. Of course, no new manager can come in and bench a striker "banging them in". We wouldn't even have a new manager if he had!
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Post by march4 on Feb 10, 2024 11:32:05 GMT
I doubt he’ll ever play for us again. I don’t see a way back for him. Having read that statement I fear the same. It sounds like HR babble. Only his actions will suffice as an apology. Let’s wait and see.
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Mmaee
Feb 10, 2024 11:51:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2024 11:51:54 GMT
You know he’s not apologised in person to the manager and his team mates then? if he had we would hear that. I'm certain. The more the club makes of it, the worse it is for all involved. Something’s happened, Schumacher’s taken steps to address it, Mmaee has found a way to say sorry without really saying sorry online. If he comes off the bench soon and nets a winner, this will all blow over. Everyone forgives goal scorers.
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Post by nottsover60 on Feb 10, 2024 11:57:03 GMT
The lads fucked up but come on the sheer Ill feeling towards him is slightly over the top I feel🔴⚪️ I wonder if the Utd fans feel the same towards Rashford, and before anyone says he produces on the pitch, he is doing this season but hasn't for the previous two. We don't know exactly what he has done to be banished. We have had players turn up late for training, miss training or by their appearance on the pitch don't take training seriously, before without this outcry. I'm pretty sure Crouch said he and Glen Johnson could have caught an earlier train to get to training on time but chose to take it easy and catch the later one.
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Post by skemstokie on Feb 10, 2024 13:22:41 GMT
The lads fucked up but come on the sheer Ill feeling towards him is slightly over the top I feel🔴⚪️ I wonder if the Utd fans feel the same towards Rashford, and before anyone says he produces on the pitch, he is doing this season but hasn't for the previous two. We don't know exactly what he has done to be banished. We have had players turn up late for training, miss training or by their appearance on the pitch don't take training seriously, before without this outcry. I'm pretty sure Crouch said he and Glen Johnson could have caught an earlier train to get to training on time but chose to take it easy and catch the later one. Think a few on here are digging a grave for the lad when it may be just be a minor illness and not terminal.
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Mmaee
Feb 10, 2024 15:02:49 GMT
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Post by yellowsnowman on Feb 10, 2024 15:02:49 GMT
He looks totally different in those clips to what i have seen at Stoke.. Is it confidence or adjusting still? Plus poor attitude. Would love him to come good for us. So frustrating. Tripled/ quadrupled his wages and thinks he’s big time now would be my guess. Hes looked good in dog shit leagues. Hes got some ability and id like him to turn the corner...... doubt it tho.
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Mmaee
Feb 10, 2024 16:25:04 GMT
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Post by rorystowel on Feb 10, 2024 16:25:04 GMT
if he had we would hear that. I'm certain. Maybe we will today. Maybe he’ll be on the bench and come on and score a winner, and a statue will be built of him next to the one of James McClean, Brek Shea and Dwight Gayle Where have they moved Berahino’s statue to?
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Mmaee
Feb 11, 2024 13:31:42 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 11, 2024 13:31:42 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 11, 2024 14:04:53 GMT
His performance will be very interesting.
If he's got anything about him, and can be arsed, it could be his passport into the starting XI on Wednesday.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 11, 2024 14:07:00 GMT
Jojic on the bench....for the u21s.
Jeez
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Mmaee
Feb 11, 2024 14:07:32 GMT
Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 11, 2024 14:07:32 GMT
My prediction. He will either; Get his head straight, apply himself, improve and become a valued member of the squad or; Leave on loan in the summer, bum around somewhere like Turkey until he disappears off our books. It’s up to him which direction he chooses for his career
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