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Post by rorystowel on Feb 4, 2024 14:30:47 GMT
That article also says “Nothing is right for Ryan Mmaae anymore. Considered Standard's greatest hope, the young striker is now excluded from the group... reports Sudpresse. His behavioural problems and mentality are pointed out.”
It goes on to say that he has clashed with management there. Great signing, Stoke.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 4, 2024 14:32:44 GMT
The 'is he an arsehole?' checks seem to have been cursory at best! You could tell the very first game he played with his body language he wouldn't cut it over here, swinging his arms about after the slightest contact, getting frustrated when things didn't go his way, lack of effort when he lost the ball. He's a mardarse.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 4, 2024 14:37:10 GMT
You've got to ask questions when a 5-minute google reveal concerns about his attitude at both Standard Liege and Ferencvaros.
When I was reading up on him, I was surprised that a player who at one time was rated in Belgium was farmed out to the no man's land of Cyprus.
Red flags all over the place.
God knows how this got though basic screening. And I'm surprised at Alex Neil giving it the thumbs up. I'd assumed Neil to be pretty old school and insistent on signings passing basic checks for problems
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Feb 4, 2024 14:41:01 GMT
You've got to ask questions when a 5-minute google reveal concerns about his attitude at both Standard Liege and Ferencvaros. When I was reading up on him, I was surprised that a player who at one time was rated in Belgium was farmed out to the no man's land of Cyprus. Red flags all over the place. God knows how this got though basic screening. And I'm surprised at Alex Neil giving it the thumbs up. I'd assumed Neil to be pretty old school and insistent on signings passing basic checks for problems I can only assume Neil knew he was on borrowed time and turned into a yes man to try and prolong his employment.
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Post by spiderpuss on Feb 4, 2024 14:41:04 GMT
So what we're saying is just a quick google would have told us what a whopper this one was/is. Dear me. Yet again we've been played as prize plums in the transfer market.
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Post by spiderpuss on Feb 4, 2024 14:43:11 GMT
You've got to ask questions when a 5-minute google reveal concerns about his attitude at both Standard Liege and Ferencvaros. When I was reading up on him, I was surprised that a player who at one time was rated in Belgium was farmed out to the no man's land of Cyprus. Red flags all over the place. God knows how this got though basic screening. And I'm surprised at Alex Neil giving it the thumbs up. I'd assumed Neil to be pretty old school and insistent on signings passing basic checks for problems I can only assume Neil knew he was on borrowed time and turned into a yes man to try and prolong his employment. Neil wasn't on borrowed time in August (when Meh was signed) and was looking forward to the great reset. The absolute basics of hiring a player have been skipped here.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 4, 2024 14:43:22 GMT
You've got to ask questions when a 5-minute google reveal concerns about his attitude at both Standard Liege and Ferencvaros. When I was reading up on him, I was surprised that a player who at one time was rated in Belgium was farmed out to the no man's land of Cyprus. Red flags all over the place. God knows how this got though basic screening. And I'm surprised at Alex Neil giving it the thumbs up. I'd assumed Neil to be pretty old school and insistent on signings passing basic checks for problems This one is totally on Jared, you can't be a credible head of recruitment and even suggest a player to management with attitude problems like this.
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Post by thornestein on Feb 4, 2024 14:57:55 GMT
it goes to show SS was right to throw him under the bus and criticise his training and work rate
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Post by skidog on Feb 4, 2024 15:08:54 GMT
it goes to show SS was right to throw him under the bus and criticise his training and work rate Fucking hell, it just confirms that the powers that be, over the last 6-7 years have learned the sum total of absolutely fuck all…😡
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Post by glpotter on Feb 4, 2024 15:24:04 GMT
Joke of a club to get it wrong over and over again
Coates out
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Post by xchpotter on Feb 4, 2024 15:37:40 GMT
Maybe Pulis was on to something when he talked about the right DNA.
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Post by chamberlain on Feb 4, 2024 15:38:14 GMT
I thought after the signings of players like Imbula more emphasis was going to looking into the temperament of players....obviously not. We've learned nothing have we and that's why yet again we are struggling.
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Post by chad on Feb 4, 2024 15:39:00 GMT
How the fuck did we authorise a signing like this after all the similar ones we’ve had !!!!!! It really beggars belief. Someone as cost us £3million. Heads should roll
Full marks to Schuey for putting the bastard in his place
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Post by Fred Merger on Feb 4, 2024 15:42:32 GMT
Our recruitment was our demise in leading to relegation from the Premier league and now looks like leading us into league 1. God knows what that Million Manhoef guy thought he was joining after watching that pile of shit yesterday!
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Post by Clayton Wood on Feb 4, 2024 15:51:10 GMT
Looks like someone forgot to load the fuckwit algorithm extension into the AskJeeves search engine.
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Post by shakermaker on Feb 4, 2024 15:54:18 GMT
You've got to ask questions when a 5-minute google reveal concerns about his attitude at both Standard Liege and Ferencvaros. When I was reading up on him, I was surprised that a player who at one time was rated in Belgium was farmed out to the no man's land of Cyprus. Red flags all over the place. God knows how this got though basic screening. And I'm surprised at Alex Neil giving it the thumbs up. I'd assumed Neil to be pretty old school and insistent on signings passing basic checks for problems This one is totally on Jared, you can't be a credible head of recruitment and even suggest a player to management with attitude problems like this. All that data at his hands, and yet a quick Google revealing poor attitude slips through the fingers of our so called Head of Recruitment… who used to work at Google! Christ alive, why are we such a magnet for all these chuckle heads?!
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Feb 4, 2024 15:57:09 GMT
Just goes to show how significantly beneficial it was for us when TP constantly talked up character and being of the right attitude. His prioritisation of this trait over all else gave us a number of grafters who often gave everything, sustaining our stay in the Prem. Also of note he outcasted Berahino at wba which speaks volumes.
Attitude and approach is massive. Looks like we didn’t prioritise this all in the reset last summer.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 4, 2024 16:00:39 GMT
Just goes to show how significantly beneficial it was for us when TP constantly talked up character and being of the right attitude. His prioritisation of this trait over all else gave us a number of grafters who often gave everything, sustaining our stay in the Prem. Also of note he outcasted Berahino at wba which speaks volumes. Attitude and approach is massive. Looks like we didn’t prioritise this all in the reset last summer. I agree. But you do need both, which presumably is where the temptation comes to cut corners and overlook warning signs, especially at the top end of the pitch, when you're looking for quality on a budget. Must be a balancing act. It's inconceivable they weren't aware of his issues, you'd think. People like Leris and Gooch seem to be great characters, but are really limited and an entire team of them wouldn't get you anywhere.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 4, 2024 16:03:46 GMT
Does JC really give a shit the way the club is run?
You have Tricky Ricky & the Yank who are not fit for purpose.
He keeps letting players join the club without having them checked out 1st.
He keeps employing managers then sacking them,even though he is the one than is the biggest problem at the club.
The moment Daddy put him in charge it keeps getting worse season by season.
If Peter doesn't step in soon & sort his son out,we could be in the lowest league position in our history.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Feb 4, 2024 16:06:16 GMT
Just goes to show how significantly beneficial it was for us when TP constantly talked up character and being of the right attitude. His prioritisation of this trait over all else gave us a number of grafters who often gave everything, sustaining our stay in the Prem. Also of note he outcasted Berahino at wba which speaks volumes. Attitude and approach is massive. Looks like we didn’t prioritise this all in the reset last summer. I agree. But you do need both, which presumably is where the temptation comes to cut corners and overlook warning signs, especially at the top end of the pitch, when you're looking for quality on a budget. Must be a balancing act. It's inconceivable they weren't aware of his issues, you'd think. People like Leris and Gooch seem to be great characters, but are really limited and an entire team of them wouldn't get you anywhere. Maybe we've gone too data driven and lost the nous of picking a decent person.
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Feb 4, 2024 16:13:57 GMT
Just goes to show how significantly beneficial it was for us when TP constantly talked up character and being of the right attitude. His prioritisation of this trait over all else gave us a number of grafters who often gave everything, sustaining our stay in the Prem. Also of note he outcasted Berahino at wba which speaks volumes. Attitude and approach is massive. Looks like we didn’t prioritise this all in the reset last summer. I agree. But you do need both, which presumably is where the temptation comes to cut corners and overlook warning signs, especially at the top end of the pitch, when you're looking for quality on a budget. Must be a balancing act. It's inconceivable they weren't aware of his issues, you'd think. People like Leris and Gooch seem to be great characters, but are really limited and an entire team of them wouldn't get you anywhere. Yes we have Leris and Gooch; our first Prem January window, if I remember correctly, TP probably recognised grafters were not enough; hence getting Ethers and Beatts to give us a cutting edge. The basic is all players are grafters but two or three matchwinners sprinkled in there. Will Ennis & Million be the next Ethers & Beatts? No idea. But the grafters raise their game. Christ a wilko, dicko and mama would be so welcome at this moment!!
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 4, 2024 16:20:08 GMT
This one is totally on Jared, you can't be a credible head of recruitment and even suggest a player to management with attitude problems like this. All that data at his hands, and yet a quick Google revealing poor attitude slips through the fingers of our so called Head of Recruitment… who used to work at Google! Christ alive, why are we such a magnet for all these chuckle heads?! Ask the bloke who recruited the head of recruitment.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Feb 4, 2024 17:16:22 GMT
Maybe Pulis was on to something when he talked about the right DNA. He absolutely was. You don't tend to mind so much if they're mavericks if they're doing the business on the pitch, like Fuller or Arnautovic did. But give me a Dean Whitehead or a Richard Cresswell any day of the week over some of the mardarses we've had since.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 4, 2024 17:32:55 GMT
He sounds like a great kiddie www.csakfoci.hu/magyar-foci/nb-i/dvsc/a-loki-elnok-maig-nem-tudja-elfogadni-hogy-a-fradi-tamado-dzsudzsak-fele-kopott-hogyan-kepes-egy-ilyen-cselekedetreHe continued, then talked about one of his negative experiences, the case where Ferencváros player Ryan Mmaee spat at Balázs Judzsák in the October match of the two teams. - To this day, I don’t understand how a professional footballer who is a role model for many is capable of such an act against another player? I can’t accept one spitting in the direction of the other’s face. Now, no matter here, our team captain was the suffering party, it is simply not acceptable in any sport. Hundreds and thousands of kids watch matches, mine too, and I can’t accept to see that from professional footballers.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 4, 2024 17:39:19 GMT
He sounds like a great kiddie www.csakfoci.hu/magyar-foci/nb-i/dvsc/a-loki-elnok-maig-nem-tudja-elfogadni-hogy-a-fradi-tamado-dzsudzsak-fele-kopott-hogyan-kepes-egy-ilyen-cselekedetreHe continued, then talked about one of his negative experiences, the case where Ferencváros player Ryan Mmaee spat at Balázs Judzsák in the October match of the two teams. - To this day, I don’t understand how a professional footballer who is a role model for many is capable of such an act against another player? I can’t accept one spitting in the direction of the other’s face. Now, no matter here, our team captain was the suffering party, it is simply not acceptable in any sport. Hundreds and thousands of kids watch matches, mine too, and I can’t accept to see that from professional footballers. What an abhorrent individual
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 4, 2024 17:41:24 GMT
The guys clearly an idiot from what I’m reading but it looks like we have 2 options
- Get him into the office and see if he’s capable of turning this around, as though he’s been disappointing he’s still a better option than the majority of our other players.
- If he’s unwilling to change his attitude and still can’t be bothered to turn up on time then the club do all they can to wreck his career and don’t give him the loan to Turkey that he wants. Look at sacking him for breach of contract. I’m sick to death of seeing the likes of NDaiye, Etebo and others having us over a barrel and manipulating moves. Sometimes it’s about principal and not giving them what they want.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Feb 4, 2024 17:44:33 GMT
Mmaee be tomorrow he’ll want to settle down, Mmaee be tomorrow he’ll just keep moving on….
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Post by datguy on Feb 4, 2024 17:48:47 GMT
He's the best striker at the club for me.
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Post by sticky on Feb 4, 2024 17:50:48 GMT
He's the best striker at the club for me. And how depressing is that
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Post by datguy on Feb 4, 2024 17:56:12 GMT
You can highlight his attitude problems all you want.
The two worst performances of the season - the past two games - he hasn't started. Funnily enough his striker replacement, Tyrese Campbell, got cheered off the pitch when he was substituted. The biggest celebration of the match from Stoke fans was him being taken off.
Ryan Mmaee isn't the problem at hand is he?
But from all of this, Schumacher has created a problem that could well be detrimental for the season. Our best striker (whether you rate him highly or not) has been axed when A) we're struggling to score and B) we're in a relegation battle.
Awful management. And these snippets from previous clubs are in no way a defence of how the situation has been handled imho.
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