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Post by lordb on Jul 16, 2024 19:01:29 GMT
Yes it’s possible but not convinced they would be looking to break their record on Junho. We can see his potential but not sure he has statistically done enough for them to be splashing a record fee out. What would be the absolute bare minute would accept so you think? On the basis Junho kicks up a fuss and demands a move. It’s a really, really hard one to call. We are going to need premier league bids to get the money we know he will be worth. I wouldn't be amazed. Clubs are getting cuter and none of them miss any tricks. If I was them, or any club really, I certainly would pay the money for him. I'd be surprised if any Stoke fan though anyone paying that kind of money for him would end up losing money on him. Just had a quick google and Feyenoord fans consider that site a "Tier 1" transfer source. Agent pressure and possible release clauses are maybe another factor. Who knows what we agreed to last summer to get him here? Indeed Release clause to a Champions League team isn't improbable ☹️ The key is to have a list of replacements for him
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2024 19:02:24 GMT
The bigger worry is that Feyenoord haven't spent more than 8M on a player in the last 20+ years....
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Post by Han Solo on Jul 16, 2024 19:03:17 GMT
The bigger worry is that Feyenoord haven't spent more than 8M on a player in the last 20+ years.... This is what worries me. We should be looking north of 15m minimum
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2024 19:04:54 GMT
The bigger worry is that Feyenoord haven't spent more than 8M on a player in the last 20+ years.... This is what worries me. We should be looking north of 15m minimum Yes we should and that's a figure that the likes of Feyenoord just aren't going to pay. He stays next season and he is a 15M+ player all day long and one that will go to the PL. I guess it boils down to the player and agent at the end of the day - they might fancy a year in the Champions League to try and tempt a bigger club in Europe for a quick buck. Sadly this is the pro and con of signing a player to develop then bumming it around the bottom of the Championship for years. You become a major selling club and you can't demand big money for your players.
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Jul 16, 2024 19:05:27 GMT
So we think 8-10 million would be enough to get him?
Depressing
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 16, 2024 19:06:06 GMT
Just checked and they were very first with the Wouter Burger link 1908.nl/artikelen/stoke-city-concreet-voor-wouter-burgerStoke City specifically for Wouter Burger Wouter Burger made the switch from Feyenoord to FC Basel in the summer of 2021. In Switzerland, the central midfielder turned out to be a permanent force in the basic formation of head coach Timo Schultz. Last season, Burger managed to reach the semi-finals of the Conference League with Basel. The development of the midfielder has not gone unnoticed in England. Stoke City have put a million-dollar bid on the table in Basel to take over Burger permanently. The club from the EFL Championship wants to go far for the 1.91 meter tall midfielder from Zuid-Beijerland and offers him a four-year contract. Burger is under contract with FC Basel until mid-2025, for which he has already played eighty-seven official matches. The midfielder managed to score six times and deliver four assists. Transfermarkt estimates that he represents a transfer value of four and a half million euros. The midfielder got no further than sixteen official matches at Feyenoord and two loan turns to fellow townspeople Excelsior and Sparta. The Rotterdam club sold the midfielder two years ago for about seven hundred thousand euros, but stipulated a resale percentage of ten percent on the net profit.
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Post by st3mark on Jul 16, 2024 19:06:50 GMT
The bigger worry is that Feyenoord haven't spent more than 8M on a player in the last 20+ years.... He won't be going there then.
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Post by numpty40 on Jul 16, 2024 19:08:00 GMT
Not a chance he would go to Feyernoord, if he starts the season as he finished the last we will be trying to fend off enquiries from decent Premier league clubs. I'm sure Bae realises this.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2024 19:09:12 GMT
The bigger worry is that Feyenoord haven't spent more than 8M on a player in the last 20+ years.... He won't be going there then. They've already spent 9M but sold a player for 30M to Brighton and thats the issue. Jun-ho and his reps will know a move there opens things up quite a bit and quite quickly. The lad that has gone to Brighton has only been there for 2 seasons - signed for 600k - sold for 30M.
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Post by st3mark on Jul 16, 2024 19:09:15 GMT
So we think 8-10 million would be enough to get him? Depressing I doubt it, £15million maybe. Depressing as that may seem, it's a decent profit for a change.
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 16, 2024 19:12:28 GMT
If his valuation is met sell and re-invest.
To be fair to Bae, I think he would be better suited to a better team, he's lightyears mentally ahead of nearly all our squad.
Valuation has to be similar to Gnoto around the 20m mark / 15m plus hefty add-ons as if he progresses how he could he could be moving for 40/50m plus in a few years.
I think we are going to have the same issues with Million and we would be in the same court if he hadn't of signed in January and not last summer.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 16, 2024 19:13:47 GMT
People who are saying there's "not a chance" are huffing the copium.
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Post by hamsta2 on Jul 16, 2024 19:14:52 GMT
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Post by Biblical on Jul 16, 2024 19:17:09 GMT
People who are saying there's "not a chance" are huffing the copium. A Champions League club and a stepping stone to move onto even bigger and better things long-term. If they’re serious he’s a goner. Just have to hope we can get decent money and reinvest it wisely.
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 16, 2024 19:17:16 GMT
Not a chance he would go to Feyernoord, if he starts the season as he finished the last we will be trying to fend off enquiries from decent Premier league clubs. I'm sure Bae realises this. Feynoord are a massive club. Champions League football. Challenge for the Title and a league where his football is suited. To think he wouldn't be tempted by that and to stay here in this dog shit league people are in Cuckoo land.
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Post by bangorstokie on Jul 16, 2024 19:17:24 GMT
Really hope this is bull shit, As I said in the Delap post, if he is worth 20mil, then Bae has to be worth north of that figure.
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Jul 16, 2024 19:19:16 GMT
So we think 8-10 million would be enough to get him? Depressing I doubt it, £15million maybe. Depressing as that may seem, it's a decent profit for a change. 15m plus I would be fine. We could reinvest it on a few decent new additions. I really don’t see Feternoord doubling their transfer record on him. If he goes we will get low balled.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 16, 2024 19:20:53 GMT
Really hope this is bull shit, As I said in the Delap post, if he is worth 20mil, then Bae has to be worth north of that figure. The difference is Delap was sold by Man City who are in a position to sell him for pretty much whatever they like. No team in our league can do that.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 16, 2024 19:21:20 GMT
Yep, in the real world of the Championship, no problem with moving players on for broadly a fair figure. You've got to do it in the FFP era,
But less than 15 would be selling ourselves short. Just hope there's no clauses that force our hand. Wouldn't be surprised if there was given we had to really bend over backwards last summer
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Jul 16, 2024 19:22:25 GMT
We need an Ipswich or lower prem team to be in for him.
18 million fee agreed for Philogene, Junho would be just as good a signing for them.
If it’s Feyernood we won’t get more than 8 million
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jul 16, 2024 19:23:16 GMT
If the interest is genuine, he’s gone. Simple as.
Not a chance he’s turning down champions league football.
In some respects it’s the perfect next step for him.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 16, 2024 19:24:26 GMT
If this happens once a season it shows our recruitment is finally bearing fruit, as annoying as it is to lose quality players.
The trick is to always have someone waiting in the wings if it happens.......
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jul 16, 2024 19:25:29 GMT
If this happens once a season it shows our recruitment is finally bearing fruit, as annoying as it is to lose quality players. The trick is to always have someone waiting in the wings if it happens....... If we still had Jared, I’d be hopeful. I’m really not sure now. Take Bae out of our team and it suddenly looks very poor. We’d need a top top replacement.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 16, 2024 19:29:25 GMT
If this happens once a season it shows our recruitment is finally bearing fruit, as annoying as it is to lose quality players. The trick is to always have someone waiting in the wings if it happens....... If we still had Jared, I’d be hopeful. I’m really not sure now. Take Bae out of our team and it suddenly looks very poor. We’d need a top top replacement. I think Mahoef will step up to the plate this season coming. I love Bae Junho but he definitely lacked an end product last season whereas Manhoef looks like he has the capability of scoring 12-15 goals. We would definitely need a quality replacement though of course.....
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Post by liathroid on Jul 16, 2024 19:29:45 GMT
think the Korean club have a sell on
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Post by Marc01 on Jul 16, 2024 19:30:48 GMT
Doesn’t look like they ever spend over 8m Euros on a fee. Cant see them massively looking break their record for Junho. They get plenty of money in from sales though. Just sold someone to Brighton for 30m. Guarantee if Junho goes there they would make a big profit in him. No way we should be selling for max 8 million. If we can persuade him not to go and give us another season we will get so much more for him. Ohhh… Feyenoord! Thou… Feeders of Brighton Seagulls F… Right Off!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2024 19:31:21 GMT
I don't know why people are panicking. They were celebrating when Jared got the boot.
I thought Walters and Darnbrough were the best thing since sliced bread? Why panic?
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Post by thornestein on Jul 16, 2024 19:33:12 GMT
Yep, in the real world of the Championship, no problem with moving players on for broadly a fair figure. You've got to do it in the FFP era, But less than 15 would be selling ourselves short. Just hope there's no clauses that force our hand. Wouldn't be surprised if there was given we had to really bend over backwards last summer we all know what he could be capable of , but he didn’t really do it with goals or assists , and that what will effect his price , teams will want sign him for his potential not what he’s achieved so far , so i don’t think we will get what ppl are saying tbh
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 16, 2024 19:33:28 GMT
I don't know why people are panicking. They were celebrating when Jared got the boot. I thought Walters and Darnbrough were the best thing since sliced bread? Why panic? Some on here can't resist panicking. Funny thing is if that exact same account posted that we've bid for someone, those panicking would be calling it bullshit and saying not to believe 1 dutch source.
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Post by MilanStokie on Jul 16, 2024 19:34:22 GMT
As annoying as it is, this is how the business plan works, the model that will see us financially better off. Buy cheap, develop, sell big.
I really hoped we would avoid interest from Bae, he is by far our most talented player, no one is even close really.
The problem is, we just have no idea what promises have been made to land him, when there was apparent Premier League interest when we got him. We could have said to him that the first big club that makes an offer of x amount and we wouldn't stand in his way.
We have to manage this extremely carefully, upsetting him by refusing offers from top clubs or pricing him out of any potential moves could end up with an under-performing player and a potential decrease on value.
I just hope we haven't made such concrete promises, no clauses or anything like that and that Bae loves the club so much that for now, he is happy to develop here and help the club back up the league. I have a feeling that it won't be that easy and Feyenoord might be the first of many admirers.
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