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Post by Fentonpotter on Aug 16, 2024 12:36:34 GMT
if you’re trying say Bae is more valuable than Szmodics then you need lay off the monkey dust I’m saying that Szmodics’ age will be bringing down his transfer fee so he isn’t a great reference point for the original poster who was comparing him to Bae. Hypothetically if Bae has a season anywhere near as good as Szmodics’s last one we’d get a much higher transfer fee than Blackburn are getting because he’s much younger. That being said, Szmodics is reportedly being sold for £9m potentially rising to £11m. That’s the same ballpark that we’ve sold our other bright young players for recently (Collins and Souttar) so I don’t think the suggestion that we could get that much for Bae is as laughable as you think it is. He does probably need to add a bit more output in terms of goals and assists before anyone’s willing to pay that much though. Exactly this. Look at the Osula to Newcastle deal. On paper his stats look gash but they’ve paid 10-15 million due to age and potential (and likely a bit of FFP manipulation)
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Post by thornestein on Aug 16, 2024 14:11:16 GMT
how old was Kane , age didn’t bring down his fee , goalscorers are always worth more Then why has Smodzics gone for £9 million and Summerville for £25 million. exactly, a players worth is what someone will pay for him , not what some random fans think his value is
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Aug 16, 2024 14:17:08 GMT
Slightly disconcerting is Smozics price is 9m plus add-ons. A 33 goal striker for 10m. Where does that leave us at the negotiating table if Fulham/ Feyenoord are up for it? 0 re-sale value, if he's on a 3 year deal. He's 29 next month. Had an outlier of a season in the championship. I rate Szmodics but as a financial investment Bae is worth more. I guess Ipswich are hoping that Smozics turns out to be a Jamie Vardy type signing. Bargain for 10m if that turns out to be the case..
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Post by ethers26 on Aug 16, 2024 14:28:33 GMT
Then why has Smodzics gone for £9 million and Summerville for £25 million. exactly, a players worth is what someone will pay for him , not what some random fans think his value is You ignored my point on this when you said Stansfield was worth more than Bae because of goals Yet Fulham are selling Stansfield and allegedly want Bae... By your own admission: Players are worth what a club will pay for them, so let's see how much Bae goes for I suspect it will be for more than £10m - and as mentioned, that's because of his age and potential/ceiling 👍🏼
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Post by chuckrocky on Aug 18, 2024 7:06:06 GMT
One of the very few positives from yesterday. Thought he looked really sharp when he came on and good to see him being a bit more greedy around the penalty area.
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Post by elystokie on Aug 18, 2024 8:26:07 GMT
One of the very few positives from yesterday. Thought he looked really sharp when he came on and good to see him being a bit more greedy around the penalty area. I have a hunch Koumas and him will gel well given the chance.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 18, 2024 8:27:13 GMT
One of the very few positives from yesterday. Thought he looked really sharp when he came on and good to see him being a bit more greedy around the penalty area. I have a hunch Koumas and him will gel well given the chance. You think Schumacher will finally bite the bullet and play Junho centrally?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 18, 2024 8:27:29 GMT
One of the very few positives from yesterday. Thought he looked really sharp when he came on and good to see him being a bit more greedy around the penalty area. Yep, lost a couple of early battles but then looked the clear stand out player in our side. Crucial he stays and plays.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 18, 2024 8:28:19 GMT
I have a hunch Koumas and him will gel well given the chance. You think Schumacher will finally bite the bullet and play Junho centrally? Wouldn't surprise me at all if Koumas plays as a CF next week 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Aug 18, 2024 8:28:25 GMT
I have a hunch Koumas and him will gel well given the chance. You think Schumacher will finally bite the bullet and play Junho centrally? I bloody hope so mate.
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Post by sportsman on Aug 18, 2024 8:29:28 GMT
One of the very few positives from yesterday. Thought he looked really sharp when he came on and good to see him being a bit more greedy around the penalty area. I have a hunch Koumas and him will gel well given the chance. Didn’t really catch up on any of the game yesterday. Why didn’t he play instead of gooch?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 18, 2024 8:29:33 GMT
I have a hunch Koumas and him will gel well given the chance. You think Schumacher will finally bite the bullet and play Junho centrally? I don't think he will but he should now we've got someone capable on the left. Although I think Moran will start most games in the advanced midfield position.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 18, 2024 8:29:36 GMT
You think Schumacher will finally bite the bullet and play Junho centrally? Wouldn't surprise me at all if Koumas plays as a CF next week 🤷🏻♂️ That would be insane?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 18, 2024 8:31:11 GMT
You think Schumacher will finally bite the bullet and play Junho centrally? I don't think he will but he should now we've got someone capable on the left. Although I think Moran will start most games in the advanced midfield position. Pretty much my thoughts. The Moran signing actually means it’s very likely not going to happen? Lawal Burger Manhoef Junho Koumas CF Would be very much what I was hoping for this season. But Moran will be here to play. And fits the dodgy 433.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 18, 2024 8:34:58 GMT
I don't think he will but he should now we've got someone capable on the left. Although I think Moran will start most games in the advanced midfield position. Pretty much my thoughts. The Moran signing actually means it’s very likely not going to happen? Lawal Burger Manhoef Junho Koumas CF Would be very much what I was hoping for this season. But Moran will be here to play. And fits the dodgy 433. Yeah he'll stick with the 433 whatever and I can see his first choice midfield trio consisting of Lawal, Laurent and Moran.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 18, 2024 8:37:07 GMT
Pretty much my thoughts. The Moran signing actually means it’s very likely not going to happen? Lawal Burger Manhoef Junho Koumas CF Would be very much what I was hoping for this season. But Moran will be here to play. And fits the dodgy 433. Yeah he'll stick with the 433 whatever and I can see his first choice midfield trio consisting of Lawal, Laurent and Moran. Laurent? He will need sacking sharpish if that cunt plays more than 15 games. Sidibe is genuinely already a much better footballer.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 18, 2024 8:37:17 GMT
Wouldn't surprise me at all if Koumas plays as a CF next week 🤷🏻♂️ That would be insane? It's how he ended the game, insanity or not.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 18, 2024 8:37:41 GMT
It's how he ended the game, insanity or not. Really? Fucking hell he’s lost the plot.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 18, 2024 8:40:20 GMT
It's how he ended the game, insanity or not. Really? Fucking hell he’s lost the plot. It's how he got his one on one chance at the end
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Post by prestwichpotter on Aug 18, 2024 8:51:26 GMT
Wouldn't surprise me at all if Koumas plays as a CF next week 🤷🏻♂️ That would be insane? He’s played through the centre as many times as he has out wide in the last couple of seasons for Liverpool’s u-18’s / u-23’s……..
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 18, 2024 8:52:54 GMT
He’s played through the centre as many times as he has out wide in the last couple of seasons for Liverpool’s u-18’s / u-23’s…….. That would be insande…. Play our own 18/19 year old striker there and not some fucker elses.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Aug 18, 2024 8:54:53 GMT
It's how he ended the game, insanity or not. Really? Fucking hell he’s lost the plot. To be fair Koumas has played CF many times and Klopp has been quoted saying he was one of the best finishers at the club.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 18, 2024 8:56:04 GMT
Really? Fucking hell he’s lost the plot. To be fair Koumas has played CF many times and Klopp has been quoted saying he was one of the best finishers at the club. We shouldn’t be playing a loanee over our own young players in similar positions. It’s just wrong.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 18, 2024 8:57:07 GMT
To be fair Koumas has played CF many times and Klopp has been quoted saying he was one of the best finishers at the club. We shouldn’t be playing a loanee over our own young players in similar positions. It’s just wrong. I agree with that sentiment, but Tezgel doesn’t look good enough to hold down a regular starting spot for a championship team.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 18, 2024 8:58:08 GMT
We shouldn’t be playing a loanee over our own young players in similar positions. It’s just wrong. I agree with that sentiment, but Tezgel doesn’t look good enough to hold down a regular starting spot for a championship team. He’s not yet. But until they sign some proper players he should be given the chance.
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Post by elystokie on Aug 18, 2024 8:58:35 GMT
I have a hunch Koumas and him will gel well given the chance. You think Schumacher will finally bite the bullet and play Junho centrally? Looks the most sensible option but that's no guarantee.
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Post by elystokie on Aug 18, 2024 8:59:09 GMT
I have a hunch Koumas and him will gel well given the chance. Didn’t really catch up on any of the game yesterday. Why didn’t he play instead of gooch? 🤷
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 18, 2024 8:59:38 GMT
You think Schumacher will finally bite the bullet and play Junho centrally? Looks the most sensible option but that's no guarantee. It does but I don’t thinks there’s much chance of it happening because of Moran. And Schumachers insistence on this 433 thing that doesn’t work.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Aug 18, 2024 8:59:42 GMT
He’s played through the centre as many times as he has out wide in the last couple of seasons for Liverpool’s u-18’s / u-23’s…….. That would be insande…. Play our own 18/19 year old striker there and not some fucker elses. I mean insane is a massive overreaction, I was merely highlighting that he can and has played there……
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 18, 2024 9:01:28 GMT
That would be insande…. Play our own 18/19 year old striker there and not some fucker elses. I mean insane is a massive overreaction, I was merely highlighting that he can and has played there…… It’s not. It’s farcical, it’s all of these words. It’s short termism but not even good short termism. It’s bonkers. And all because we have a Chairman, Technical Director and Head Coach who couldn’t be more out of their depth if they tried.
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