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Post by upthefud on Sept 5, 2024 13:13:15 GMT
If Ennis must stay, Vidi might as well go I guess. We've 6 players for 3 forward places, plus Ennis for whatever it is he does. Koumas/Bae Cannon/Gally Tezgel/Manhoef As with Mmaee, not much room for Vidi. People need to stop thinking that decisions around who leaves is purely based on ability. Squad status, contract, attitude when left out of the team, saleability all come into it. Mmaee for example is a better footballer than Ennis - but is he a better squad player than Ennis for what he would cost? Probably not. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 5, 2024 13:47:10 GMT
And we all know that was more down to AN than any other factor. Jared was only responsible for 8 of the 20 recruits. And of those Bae Burger Manhoef and Bocat are gems the like of which we’ve not seen for a good few years . Jared?….jeez some are even on first name terms with him now He’s fast becoming a Pep or Boris figure It’s weird how he’s achieving almost mythical status. |
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 5, 2024 14:02:02 GMT
Jared?….jeez some are even on first name terms with him now He’s fast becoming a Pep or Boris figure It’s weird how he’s achieving almost mythical status. The bar has been set so low over the last 7 years with our recruitment. The idea he's behind a half decent signing or two is elevating him to Godly status. |
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Post by skip on Sept 5, 2024 14:04:00 GMT
It’s weird how he’s achieving almost mythical status. The bar has been set so low over the last 7 years with our recruitment. The idea he's behind a half decent signing or two is elevating him to Godly status. Quite. We all loved Steino, not the person responsible for spotting him or 'securing his signature' (cf: footballing clichés). |
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 5, 2024 14:34:06 GMT
It’s weird how he’s achieving almost mythical status. The bar has been set so low over the last 7 years with our recruitment. The idea he's behind a half decent signing or two is elevating him to Godly status. Where is this happening exactly? I've just done a quick scan back through the month since he was appointed at Hull and he is mentioned numerous times - overwhelmingly negatively or sarcastically, by the likes of yourself and foxy. There are a handful of what could be perceived as explicitly positive comments - examples are "where's Jared when you need him" and "I really think we'll regret letting him go". Moderately favourable opinions - not quite the stuff of myth or godliness. Maybe it's you that has a slightly fantastical take on this for some reason? Just a thought |
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Post by thornestein on Sept 5, 2024 14:42:28 GMT
We were nearly relegated. more do with the managers than players Bae Burger Bocat Million we will make great profit on Leris a small profit Mmaee Vidigal will get money back cover ffp Johnson was a Neil shit signing Jovic or what ever his name is , a young lad in a strange country and home sick , it happens all far from disastrous and you think it is , says more about you tbh |
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 5, 2024 15:52:00 GMT
We were nearly relegated. more do with the managers than players Bae Burger Bocat Million we will make great profit on Leris a small profit Mmaee Vidigal will get money back cover ffp Johnson was a Neil shit signing Jovic or what ever his name is , a young lad in a strange country and home sick , it happens all far from disastrous and you think it is , says more about you tbh They signed a shit load of footballers between them and collectively nearly relegated us. The new recruitment team is replacing nearly all of those footballers. And you say it was good recruitment... christ on a fucking bike. |
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Post by thornestein on Sept 5, 2024 16:28:30 GMT
more do with the managers than players Bae Burger Bocat Million we will make great profit on Leris a small profit Mmaee Vidigal will get money back cover ffp Johnson was a Neil shit signing Jovic or what ever his name is , a young lad in a strange country and home sick , it happens all far from disastrous and you think it is , says more about you tbh They signed a shit load of footballers between them and collectively nearly relegated us. The new recruitment team is replacing nearly all of those footballers. And you say it was good recruitment... christ on a fucking bike. where the fuck did i say it’s good recruitment, i just don’t think it was disastrous as you the numpty put it |
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Post by march4 on Sept 5, 2024 16:47:19 GMT
We were nearly relegated. more do with the managers than players Bae Burger Bocat Million we will make great profit on Leris a small profit Mmaee Vidigal will get money back cover ffp Johnson was a Neil shit signing Jovic or what ever his name is , a young lad in a strange country and home sick , it happens all far from disastrous and you think it is , says more about you tbh And we were nearly relegated. |
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Post by senojbor on Sept 5, 2024 17:19:29 GMT
more do with the managers than players Bae Burger Bocat Million we will make great profit on Leris a small profit Mmaee Vidigal will get money back cover ffp Johnson was a Neil shit signing Jovic or what ever his name is , a young lad in a strange country and home sick , it happens all far from disastrous and you think it is , says more about you tbh And we were nearly relegated. But we weren't though were we. |
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Post by ceejays on Sept 5, 2024 17:23:12 GMT
more do with the managers than players Bae Burger Bocat Million we will make great profit on Leris a small profit Mmaee Vidigal will get money back cover ffp Johnson was a Neil shit signing Jovic or what ever his name is , a young lad in a strange country and home sick , it happens all far from disastrous and you think it is , says more about you tbh And we were nearly relegated. The idea Jaref recruitment nearly got us relegated is mind blowingly inaccurate. He was only responsible for 8 of 20 recruits fgs .And the idea we were nearly relegated is way off the mark . |
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Post by thornestein on Sept 5, 2024 17:28:57 GMT
And we were nearly relegated. But we weren't though were we. you can’t fix stupid so don’t bother |
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Post by upthefud on Sept 5, 2024 17:36:01 GMT
We were nearly relegated. more do with the managers than players Bae Burger Bocat Million we will make great profit on Leris a small profit Mmaee Vidigal will get money back cover ffp Johnson was a Neil shit signing Jovic or what ever his name is , a young lad in a strange country and home sick , it happens all far from disastrous and you think it is , says more about you tbh Who is giving us our money back for Vidigal, Mmaee and Jojic? I certainly can’t see Rapid Vienna spending £2m on Mmaee? And for balance I think Bae and Manhoef are excellent and Burger very good. But Pugsley has a point that the group of players we assembled were hurtling toward League One until Schumacher got a tune out of Luke Cundle. The team Dublin built had no goals to it and the money spent on Mmaee Vidigal and Jojic was nearly a disaster. You have a point that it wasn’t because in the end we did survive and do have some bones to build on. As always the truth lies somewhat in the middle. |
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Post by Roger Everyone on Sept 5, 2024 17:43:08 GMT
Quite happy vidigal is still with us, it's going to be a long season and I guess he will feature at some point.
Maybe if we had sorted out our deadline signings a bit earlier we could have loaned him out.
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Post by upthefud on Sept 5, 2024 17:47:55 GMT
Quite happy vidigal is still with us, it's going to be a long season and I guess he will feature at some point. Maybe if we had sorted out our deadline signings a bit earlier we could have loaned him out. I don’t think he’s going to feature though? Manager doesn’t rate him in the slightest. At this point he’s a squad filler and a wage drain. We need someone to take a point or else he’ll spend the season with the U23s. Only way he could be useful is if Shuey ends up going for whatever reason and the new manager takes a shine to him. Doesn’t seem likely in the slightest. |
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Post by st3mark on Sept 5, 2024 17:58:04 GMT
Quite happy vidigal is still with us, it's going to be a long season and I guess he will feature at some point. Maybe if we had sorted out our deadline signings a bit earlier we could have loaned him out. He's out of the squad completely with kids making the bench over him. I'd have him as part of the squad before I let him rot personally. |
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Post by thornestein on Sept 5, 2024 18:59:55 GMT
more do with the managers than players Bae Burger Bocat Million we will make great profit on Leris a small profit Mmaee Vidigal will get money back cover ffp Johnson was a Neil shit signing Jovic or what ever his name is , a young lad in a strange country and home sick , it happens all far from disastrous and you think it is , says more about you tbh Who is giving us our money back for Vidigal, Mmaee and Jojic? I certainly can’t see Rapid Vienna spending £2m on Mmaee? And for balance I think Bae and Manhoef are excellent and Burger very good. But Pugsley has a point that the group of players we assembled were hurtling toward League One until Schumacher got a tune out of Luke Cundle. The team Dublin built had no goals to it and the money spent on Mmaee Vidigal and Jojic was nearly a disaster. You have a point that it wasn’t because in the end we did survive and do have some bones to build on. As always the truth lies somewhat in the middle. i said money back towards ffp , you don’t have to get the full amount just what’s left on their contract |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Sept 5, 2024 19:17:48 GMT
the problem last year seemed more on the experienced players from what i saw in games , players coming to a new country mostly did ok but too many changes and then changing managers didnt help . Schumacher wants his own set up which he now pretty much has as Neil did , now he needs to get better results over the season . I think Mmaee was ok , but if Schumacher doesnt rate him , no point him staying same for Vidigal ,
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Post by alsager58 on Sept 5, 2024 23:50:36 GMT
I think we are forgetting Wesley and Clark oh and Travers for a 10 weeks stint, Vidigal too lightweight, Mmaee played walking football. SS and SJW we trust roll on the next game we are young exciting with a pressing plan. Not many if any have a better top 5 /6 than us Koumas Cannon Junho Million Gallagher Tezgel. Then bring on Bosun Lawell quality player.
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Post by mtrstudent on Sept 6, 2024 3:45:00 GMT
The idea Jaref recruitment nearly got us relegated is mind blowingly inaccurate. He was only responsible for 8 of 20 recruits fgs .And the idea we were nearly relegated is way off the mark . Where's the list of 8 that were from Jared and how do we know? 🤔 I'm genuinely curious mate! Not a snarky question. |
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Post by Roger Everyone on Sept 6, 2024 8:48:21 GMT
Quite happy vidigal is still with us, it's going to be a long season and I guess he will feature at some point. Maybe if we had sorted out our deadline signings a bit earlier we could have loaned him out. I don’t think he’s going to feature Only time will tell. |
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Post by Veritas on Sept 6, 2024 8:51:02 GMT
Quite happy vidigal is still with us, it's going to be a long season and I guess he will feature at some point. Maybe if we had sorted out our deadline signings a bit earlier we could have loaned him out. Wasn't it reported he had turned down a move? |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 6, 2024 9:08:46 GMT
Not directly related to Vidigal I know, but I can't be arsed to start a thread about it, is Gooch out of contract after this season? I don't like Vidigal much but I can't be doing with Gooch on the wing either.
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Post by stokefanone on Sept 6, 2024 9:15:31 GMT
Looks like vidigal is staying?
It will be a long season, and if we are in a promotion/play off scenario, we will need cover.
Hopefully being a young side we will be a little hardier than other seasons, but with lawal, Gallagher, Pearson, Stevens, Bonham, rose all out injured already, I think we need keep players for back up. Vidigal, Ennis will be needed during the season ahead.
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Post by apb1 on Sept 6, 2024 9:17:24 GMT
I wonder whether he won't even be named in the squad registered with the EFL, whenever that gets announced. There are plenty of places for over 21s but it would be a pretty firm denial of us having any interest in playing him.
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Post by ratters on Sept 6, 2024 9:31:54 GMT
I wonder whether he won't even be named in the squad registered with the EFL, whenever that gets announced. There are plenty of places for over 21s but it would be a pretty firm denial of us having any interest in playing him. I don't think you can do that unless you have too many players. If we only have for example exactly 25 over age players and one of them is Vidigal, he has to be named as you cannot just not name someone, it stops clubs bringing in free agents when they already have that number of players, even if we never intend to play them |
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 6, 2024 9:44:37 GMT
I wonder whether he won't even be named in the squad registered with the EFL, whenever that gets announced. There are plenty of places for over 21s but it would be a pretty firm denial of us having any interest in playing him. I don't think you can do that unless you have too many players. If we only have for example exactly 25 over age players and one of them is Vidigal, he has to be named as you cannot just not name someone, it stops clubs bringing in free agents when they already have that number of players, even if we never intend to play them When in a bored moment in a waiting room the other day I tried to work out in my head how many players we have, to name in our squad, and only got about 21 and that included Bae and Lawal whose ages I wasn't sure on. Pretty sure Bae still doesn't have to be named as he was u21 at the start of the season. So why would we not name Vidigal? It would still leave three places free. |
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Post by Robo10 on Sept 6, 2024 10:00:09 GMT
Not getting involved in the he's shit, he's wank, he's a footballing God debate, but anybody saying we nearly weren't relegated last season has their head in the sand
Only a remarkable last 4 games where we got 10 points from 12, and a solid run from early March winning 6 from 12 (3 draws) kept us up - plus a dramatic collapse from Brum and Huddersfield
February, in particular the Leicester (0-5) and Blackburn (1-3) games in Feb were a real watershed I think, and from that moment Schumacher pretty much disposed of many of the squad, his mind was made up then. We also lost to Cov and Cardiff.
We lost 4 out of 5 games in Feb, and were in the shit, falling like a stone and seemingly into oblivion.
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 6, 2024 10:00:38 GMT
Not directly related to Vidigal I know, but I can't be arsed to start a thread about it, is Gooch out of contract after this season? I don't like Vidigal much but I can't be doing with Gooch on the wing either. It’s to be hoped that his contract ends at the end of the season. He’s not good enough |
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Post by bolders on Sept 6, 2024 10:04:10 GMT
Not directly related to Vidigal I know, but I can't be arsed to start a thread about it, is Gooch out of contract after this season? I don't like Vidigal much but I can't be doing with Gooch on the wing either. Maybe try to get something for him in January and find a replacement |
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