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Israel
May 30, 2024 11:17:15 GMT
Post by Eggybread on May 30, 2024 11:17:15 GMT
Does anyone truly believe Israel isn’t committing genocide? It’s fucking disgusting. All the world can see it but do nothing.The UN isnt fit for purpose also. The yanks have in the last day or so stated that they cannot see any reason why they should stop selling arms to Israel.
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Israel
May 30, 2024 13:02:36 GMT
Post by knype on May 30, 2024 13:02:36 GMT
I read enough thanks. May get around yo having a look. Got any links on the Muslim hatred of Jews and every other race and religion ? That's the problem, you don't and you never will if it doesn't suit your bigoted politics. That's rich! Pot, Kettle, Black and all that!
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Post by gawa on May 31, 2024 9:11:11 GMT
Seems this is labours position on Israel. They vet their candidates for anything on social media before selecting them. So guess the leadership must agree with these views: A vote for labour is a vote for genocide denial.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 31, 2024 18:04:59 GMT
"Palestinians will return to their homes and neighbourhoods"
What homes and neighbourhoods are those Joe, have you seen the state of fucking Gaza lately, who is going to pay to rebuild it and when?
/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1796596928945238441¤tTweetUser=atrupar
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Post by PotterLog on May 31, 2024 19:32:19 GMT
Does anyone truly believe Israel isn’t committing genocide? It’s fucking disgusting. Still the most incompetent, inefficient and ineffective genocide in history then, by a massive military power with a million potential victims sitting helplessly under its nose.
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Post by mrnovember on May 31, 2024 20:09:18 GMT
Does anyone truly believe Israel isn’t committing genocide? It’s fucking disgusting. Still the most incompetent, inefficient and ineffective genocide in history then, by a massive military power with a million potential victims sitting helplessly under its nose. Bloody hell, I hope you've lubed up.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 31, 2024 20:13:39 GMT
"Palestinians will return to their homes and neighbourhoods" What homes and neighbourhoods are those Joe, have you seen the state of fucking Gaza lately, who is going to pay to rebuild it and when? /mediaViewer?currentTweet=1796596928945238441¤tTweetUser=atrupar Give him a chance, it’s the first time he’s woken up this year
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Post by serpico on Jun 1, 2024 7:55:24 GMT
The debate about whether or not it perfectly fits the definition of genocide is pointless, the fact is the Israelis have killed 10s of thousands of people!
This isn’t a perfect analogy but if the IRA had carried out a Oct 7 style attack during the troubles in the 70s/80s would people have supported a massive bombing campaign on parts of Ireland that killed 35 thousand+ people, most of them just caught in the crossfire ?
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Post by lordb on Jun 1, 2024 8:14:28 GMT
The debate about whether or not it perfectly fits the definition of genocide is pointless, the fact is the Israelis have killed 10s of thousands of people! This isn’t a perfect analogy but if the IRA had carried out a Oct 7 style attack during the troubles in the 70s/80s would people have supported a massive bombing campaign on parts of Ireland that killed 35 thousand+ people, most of them just caught in the crossfire ? Some people would have done yes however would like to think most wouldn't it's hard to equate though
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 1, 2024 8:22:00 GMT
Does anyone truly believe Israel isn’t committing genocide? It’s fucking disgusting. Still the most incompetent, inefficient and ineffective genocide in history then, by a massive military power with a million potential victims sitting helplessly under its nose. if it's not genocide (I can understand the counter argument to it being labelled as that) then what would you describe the current situation as just out of interest mate?
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Post by roylandstoke on Jun 1, 2024 8:31:43 GMT
Does anyone truly believe Israel isn’t committing genocide? It’s fucking disgusting. Still the most incompetent, inefficient and ineffective genocide in history then, by a massive military power with a million potential victims sitting helplessly under its nose. Are you ok with it being called mass murder, forced displacement and imprisonment, deliberate slow starvation and continued denial of basic human rights?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 1, 2024 13:33:54 GMT
I doubt that you will hear a more powerful speech this year.
"Where are their souls?"
Indeed ...
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Post by gawa on Jun 1, 2024 14:19:02 GMT
This is how the dosser afford his foreign villas and to sit on twitter all day speaking shite. How do his supporters think he affords to speak shite 247 without working a day of his life. Weird this isn't embedding. Here is link - x.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1796877169748066543
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Israel
Jun 1, 2024 22:24:37 GMT
via mobile
Post by Gods on Jun 1, 2024 22:24:37 GMT
Is there any reason at all to think that any more than a handful of the remaining hostages are still alive?
It would suit the Palestinians for Israel to think so but Israel has shelled the Gaza strip in to the dark ages and must have vaporised a good number of them.
I just wonder if, when the big hostage release comes, it will amount to about half a dozen people emerging from the rubble.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 1, 2024 22:27:58 GMT
Is there any reason at all to think that any more than a handful of the remaining hostages are still alive? It would suit the Palestinians for Israel to think so but Israel has shelled the Gaza strip in the dark ages and must have vaporised a good number of them. I just wonder if when the big hostage release comes it will amount to about half a dozen people emerging from the rubble. I'd be shocked if there's more than a handful, getting on for 8 months now and as you say Gaza has been obliterated so I'm struggling to know where they would be held captive.....
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Post by andystokey on Jun 1, 2024 22:50:49 GMT
Is there any reason at all to think that any more than a handful of the remaining hostages are still alive? It would suit the Palestinians for Israel to think so but Israel has shelled the Gaza strip in the dark ages and must have vaporised a good number of them. I just wonder if when the big hostage release comes it will amount to about half a dozen people emerging from the rubble. Dropping 2000 pounders where they might be being held doesn't seem like a strategy to get them out does it?
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Israel
Jun 2, 2024 9:05:06 GMT
Post by Gods on Jun 2, 2024 9:05:06 GMT
Is there any reason at all to think that any more than a handful of the remaining hostages are still alive? It would suit the Palestinians for Israel to think so but Israel has shelled the Gaza strip in the dark ages and must have vaporised a good number of them. I just wonder if when the big hostage release comes it will amount to about half a dozen people emerging from the rubble. Dropping 2000 pounders where they might be being held doesn't seem like a strategy to get them out does it? Yes, I am trying to thing forward to the moment an agreement is signed and it says something like... *Day 1 - Four week ceasefire *Day 28 - Palestine release the remaining 150 hostages and at the same time Israel free 900 Palestinians from jail on the West Bank And at this point it becomes apparent that the Palestinians can produce no more than about 10 since the rest have either been blown to smithereeens by the Israelis or starved to death or they don't have a scooby where they are. And what happens then?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 2, 2024 17:28:09 GMT
Forgetting the rights and wrongs of the current crisis in Gaza what hasn't been mentioned much is just what a mess the Israeli armed forces have made of their invasion of Gaza. Minimal hostages returned, deaths of soldiers racking up and despite the obliteration of the area Hamas still appear to have pockets of resistance fighters causing problems. What a waste of life the whole thing has been.....
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Israel
Jun 2, 2024 18:33:32 GMT
via mobile
Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2024 18:33:32 GMT
Forgetting the rights and wrongs of the current crisis in Gaza what hasn't been mentioned much is just what a mess the Israeli armed forces have made of their invasion of Gaza. Minimal hostages returned, deaths of soldiers racking up and despite the obliteration of the area Hamas still appear to have pockets of resistance fighters causing problems. What a waste of life the whole thing has been..... Not to mention the fact that Hamas’ leaders all live in a different country and will be free to recruit from that country for years to come.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 2, 2024 21:39:03 GMT
And over 50 years on, here we are ...
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 3, 2024 12:25:06 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 4, 2024 6:28:21 GMT
The situation is getting more serious with South Lebanon getting attacked and Hezbollah retaliating overnight in Northern Israel (or occupied Golan Heights territory depending on your viewpoint)
Let’s hope there’s no further escalation on either side…..
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Post by Veritas on Jun 4, 2024 7:54:18 GMT
The situation is getting more serious with South Lebanon getting attacked and Hezbollah retaliating overnight in Northern Israel (or occupied Golan Heights territory depending on your viewpoint) Let’s hope there’s no further escalation on either side….. Unfortunately leaders on both sides are keen to see further escalation. Hamas are looking to ignite a general uprising and pull in the wider Arab world. Netanyahu sees the continuation of the conflict as the best way to stay in power and his best chance of avoiding the looming corruption charges. Depressing and dangerous but unfortunately true.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 4, 2024 19:10:46 GMT
Zionism in 60 seconds.
And the thing is, I genuinely believe that she doesn't realise that she's bullshitting.
She's just so far gone now, it's simply become natural to her ...
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Post by serpico on Jun 6, 2024 17:26:32 GMT
I don’t get why anyone running this country or anyone from the Uk can support what Israel is doing, we literally have no interest in this on either side of the conflict! We don’t benefit from Israel at all and supporting them only brings negative consequences, the blowback/consequences from supporting Israel will eventually hit us very, very hard and it’s totally unnecessary! … if Israel thinks what it’s doing is in its best interest (I don’t think it is!) then leave them to it! but we should not be running cover/supporting them, it’s damaging our national security and for what?!?!
Given how many Gaza sympathetic Muslims there are in the UK it’s sadly only a matter of time before a catastrophic incident happens, it only takes a handful of the 4 million to cause huge damage!
It’s time we had sane politicians who actually defend this country and not put us in the cross hairs of other countries/peoples enemies unnecessarily!
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Post by oggyoggy on Jun 6, 2024 17:49:58 GMT
What I don’t understand is what Hamas has to lose by releasing the remaining hostages that are still alive. I said this a few months ago and it is even more the case now.
It would mean the last tiny thread of reasoning for the US/Uk to hang their justification for supporting Israel’s right to defend itself (known to everyone else as their right to invade and bomb the shit out of Palestine) would disappear entirely.
Surely that act by Hamas changes things quite dramatically?
My view is the reason they don’t is because Hamas and its leaders (who haven’t been in Palestine for ages) seem to not care at all about Palestine or its citizens. Perhaps it is good for Iran for this war (massacre) to continue?
Does anyone in the region actually care about Palestine and its people? It seems that nobody is willing to do anything to help them.
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Jun 6, 2024 18:12:26 GMT
Be absolutely amazed if any of the hostages are still alive at this point.
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Post by Veritas on Jun 6, 2024 18:22:03 GMT
Be absolutely amazed if any of the hostages are still alive at this point. Unfortunately I expect you are probably correct. The impact of a combination of initial injuries, mistreatment, lack of food and ongoing Israeli bombardment will have taken a very heavy toll.
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Post by wannabee on Jun 6, 2024 18:25:26 GMT
What I don’t understand is what Hamas has to lose by releasing the remaining hostages that are still alive. I said this a few months ago and it is even more the case now. It would mean the last tiny thread of reasoning for the US/Uk to hang their justification for supporting Israel’s right to defend itself (known to everyone else as their right to invade and bomb the shit out of Palestine) would disappear entirely. Surely that act by Hamas changes things quite dramatically? My view is the reason they don’t is because Hamas and its leaders (who haven’t been in Palestine for ages) seem to not care at all about Palestine or its citizens. Perhaps it is good for Iran for this war (massacre) to continue? Does anyone in the region actually care about Palestine and its people? It seems that nobody is willing to do anything to help them. Of course they should be released but as despicable as it may sound they are bargaining chips. There are 9500 Palestinians in Israeli Prisons of which 3600+ are being held without charge and neither they not their legal representatives are allowed to know why they are being detained Of these 200+ are children and a further 80+ Women At some point this awful slaughter must end in some kind of peace deal and a prisoner exchange will be part of that as it was in previous temporary ceasefire It also places pressure on Netanyahu to agree to agree a peace deal I agree the Hamas Leadership have long gone from Gaza so it begs the question who exactly are Israel currently bombing, a UN Run School in Central Gaza killing dozens of women and children?
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Israel
Jun 6, 2024 19:23:39 GMT
via mobile
Post by oggyoggy on Jun 6, 2024 19:23:39 GMT
What I don’t understand is what Hamas has to lose by releasing the remaining hostages that are still alive. I said this a few months ago and it is even more the case now. It would mean the last tiny thread of reasoning for the US/Uk to hang their justification for supporting Israel’s right to defend itself (known to everyone else as their right to invade and bomb the shit out of Palestine) would disappear entirely. Surely that act by Hamas changes things quite dramatically? My view is the reason they don’t is because Hamas and its leaders (who haven’t been in Palestine for ages) seem to not care at all about Palestine or its citizens. Perhaps it is good for Iran for this war (massacre) to continue? Does anyone in the region actually care about Palestine and its people? It seems that nobody is willing to do anything to help them. Of course they should be released but as despicable as it may sound they are bargaining chips. There are 9500 Palestinians in Israeli Prisons of which 3600+ are being held without charge and neither they not their legal representatives are allowed to know why they are being detained Of these 200+ are children and a further 80+ Women At some point this awful slaughter must end in some kind of peace deal and a prisoner exchange will be part of that as it was in previous temporary ceasefire It also places pressure on Netanyahu to agree to agree a peace deal I agree the Hamas Leadership have long gone from Gaza so it begs the question who exactly are Israel currently bombing, a UN Run School in Central Gaza killing dozens of women and children? I wonder how many of those imprisoned by Israel matter to Hamas though? Probably not the ones without charge as only certified members of Hamas will matter to them, and they will be with a charge I imagine. It is all so tragic (reading about the UN school was awful). Particularly so on D-Day.
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