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Mar 11, 2024 13:29:03 GMT
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Post by musik on Mar 11, 2024 13:29:03 GMT
Absolutely beyond belief. Unfortunately, imo, in the medium future the whole issue will be either Irrelevant to most people Or will reduce to Pro Israel, pro Jew, pro West Or Pro Islam, pro Arab, pro Palestine ( not pro Hamas) And ANTI ...the opposite. I'm NOT saying that is right, I'm just saying what I think will happen , across the world. "You can't outsmart The Torah." What ...?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 11, 2024 15:04:26 GMT
Pity that Schlosberg isn't invited onto our own news channels, I think this is fair commentary ...
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Post by iancransonsknees on Mar 11, 2024 17:52:11 GMT
Pity that Schlosberg isn't invited onto our own news channels, I think this is fair commentary ... After the recent hoo-ha over whether he bummed that runner on This Morning I think he's lying low for a bit. Besides isn't it a bit high brow for him? Unless he's discussing it with Gino Di Campo maybe.
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Post by Veritas on Mar 11, 2024 17:59:37 GMT
Wow! Now that really is what you can safely call a racist bigot.
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Israel
Mar 12, 2024 7:15:56 GMT
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Mar 12, 2024 7:15:56 GMT
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Mar 13, 2024 0:08:08 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 13, 2024 0:08:08 GMT
He'd have already been fired if the question had been about Israelis and he equally couldn't answer ...
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Israel
Mar 13, 2024 1:53:51 GMT
Post by wannabee on Mar 13, 2024 1:53:51 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 13, 2024 6:20:20 GMT
I think the problem with a lot of this type of reporting is that when predominantly the right wing press / media start going on about people being arrested for displaying “anti-hamas” placards they’re not telling the entire story and either don’t understand policing or simply deliberately tell a story to fit there agenda and stoke anger to fit their political view. It’s not about the police taking sides or dealing with an incident in a “2-tiered” way it’s about them managing an incident with the intention of avoiding serious injury to anyone with the limited resources that they have. Often like in this case when you have a lone-protestor the obvious solution would be to arrest them for breach of the peace, not because of their beliefs (which may be good) but to save them from being assaulted or injured by the large number of protestors who don’t agree with them and may have the intent to hurt them. Once taken to a place of safety they’d be dearrested and allowed to go (that’s rarely explained as it doesn’t fit the narrative). Not saying that’s necessarily right but I’d imagine that those like the Iranian chap know the way them protesting will role and will manipulate the situation so that they can get a story and push the “the police are supporting Hamas” story so they can agitate a situation in the way it’s reported. The police have been left in this situation because of the huge cuts by Ms May so rather than dealing with incidents like they should be by arresting people from both sides they have to firefight by simply stopping the violence by what ever means they can and from escalating a situation by taking away single protestors like this gentleman to prevent mass-disorder. If they did go in all guns blazing and started arresting on mass the situation could soon escalate and they could be quickly outnumbered and calling for reinforcements (if they have any) and things would get a whole lot worse and they’d have the usual suspects in the media calling them “heavy handed.” Add to that that those being called in wouldn’t be able to deal with the non-Hamas related crimes that form or should form the majority of their day.
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Post by wannabee on Mar 13, 2024 10:09:11 GMT
I think the problem with a lot of this type of reporting is that when predominantly the right wing press / media start going on about people being arrested for displaying “anti-hamas” placards they’re not telling the entire story and either don’t understand policing or simply deliberately tell a story to fit there agenda and stoke anger to fit their political view. It’s not about the police taking sides or dealing with an incident in a “2-tiered” way it’s about them managing an incident with the intention of avoiding serious injury to anyone with the limited resources that they have. Often like in this case when you have a lone-protestor the obvious solution would be to arrest them for breach of the peace, not because of their beliefs (which may be good) but to save them from being assaulted or injured by the large number of protestors who don’t agree with them and may have the intent to hurt them. Once taken to a place of safety they’d be dearrested and allowed to go (that’s rarely explained as it doesn’t fit the narrative). Not saying that’s necessarily right but I’d imagine that those like the Iranian chap know the way them protesting will role and will manipulate the situation so that they can get a story and push the “the police are supporting Hamas” story so they can agitate a situation in the way it’s reported. The police have been left in this situation because of the huge cuts by Ms May so rather than dealing with incidents like they should be by arresting people from both sides they have to firefight by simply stopping the violence by what ever means they can and from escalating a situation by taking away single protestors like this gentleman to prevent mass-disorder. If they did go in all guns blazing and started arresting on mass the situation could soon escalate and they could be quickly outnumbered and calling for reinforcements (if they have any) and things would get a whole lot worse and they’d have the usual suspects in the media calling them “heavy handed.” Add to that that those being called in wouldn’t be able to deal with the non-Hamas related crimes that form or should form the majority of their day. I don't disagree at all with what you are saying but to my eyes a different scenario unfolded here. A lone anti-Hamas protester placed himself in the middle of a Peaceful Pro-Palestine March. At first most people didn't even notice what he was doing. He then made it more obvious and people began to boo him and drape Palestinian Flag over his plackcard as they went by. Not content with the reaction he was getting he lunged at one of the Marchers, perhaps words were exchanged and the Police who had obviously been monitoring the situation closely for his own protection. There is another chap from North East, can't remember his name, who makes a living doing this shit, his wife and an accomplice remain in the background filming which he then puts out on his Podcast. The Israeli MSN dub him the "Lone Warrior" It's quite pathetic when so called Libertarians decry the Police reaction to a deliberately staged event. Although the chap was arrested and dearrested I would have thought he could have been charged with Incitement?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 13, 2024 15:03:19 GMT
A really good response to the "do you condemn Hamas?" question that Morgan repeatedly asks........
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 13, 2024 16:24:14 GMT
A really good response to the "do you condemn Hamas?" question that Morgan repeatedly asks........ Absolutely owned him there! Brilliant stuff
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Mar 13, 2024 18:37:46 GMT
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Post by roylandstoke on Mar 13, 2024 18:37:46 GMT
The police say he was arrested for assault. Don’t you believe them?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 14, 2024 14:12:16 GMT
Gove doing his favourite Vicky Pollard impersonation! 🤦♂️
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 16, 2024 14:37:31 GMT
Important:
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 16, 2024 22:14:04 GMT
But didn't it begin on October 7th?
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Mar 17, 2024 1:02:05 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 17, 2024 1:02:05 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 18, 2024 23:50:05 GMT
He seems to be carrying his baby brother or sister here, poor little bastard.
Would you be surprised if he grew up to be an extremely bitter and angry man, looking for revenge?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 20, 2024 0:25:26 GMT
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Post by roylandstoke on Mar 20, 2024 0:36:55 GMT
This man is clearly the wrong sort of Jew.
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Israel
Mar 22, 2024 6:40:28 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 22, 2024 6:40:28 GMT
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Mar 22, 2024 7:37:33 GMT
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Post by roylandstoke on Mar 22, 2024 7:37:33 GMT
I imagine that reporter will be accused of anti-semitism. Anything other than blind, unquestioning belief of the narrative the Israelis are constructing is seen as anti-Semitic.
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Mar 22, 2024 10:12:00 GMT
Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 22, 2024 10:12:00 GMT
Absolutely disgusting but not in any way surprising, in just a few short minutes, it kind of sums up, just exactly where we are.
And it was based on these sort of lies, that the West withdrew it's funding for UNWRA and as result, there were even more meaningless deaths.
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Mar 22, 2024 11:00:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2024 11:00:43 GMT
He'd have already been fired if the question had been about Israelis and he equally couldn't answer ... To be honest, I wouldn’t answer any question made by a group of people shoving iPhones in my face. He’s far better off ignoring it and then making a statement later, or just ignoring it.
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Mar 22, 2024 11:58:07 GMT
Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 22, 2024 11:58:07 GMT
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Post by OldStokie on Mar 22, 2024 12:36:20 GMT
12,000 children killed in Gaza up to yet. Let that sink in. If this isn't genocide then whoever says it isn't is plain nuts.
OS.
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Israel
Mar 22, 2024 13:05:16 GMT
Post by wannabee on Mar 22, 2024 13:05:16 GMT
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Israel
Mar 22, 2024 14:55:49 GMT
Post by mrcoke on Mar 22, 2024 14:55:49 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 22, 2024 17:45:10 GMT
But but but Hamas......
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 25, 2024 9:38:07 GMT
Depraved cowards!
You've got a couple of future Hamas recruits being born right there ...
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Mar 25, 2024 12:12:33 GMT
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Post by essexstokey on Mar 25, 2024 12:12:33 GMT
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