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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2023 12:48:35 GMT
US destroys 3 Houthi ships attempting to board a commercial ship. How long before Iran get fully involved in this conflict? Never? It’s not really their style. They like to fund terrorist groups. It gives them some shred of deniability in that they don’t control those groups. It also stops them from needing to enter and actual war with a Western Power. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 1, 2024 9:25:06 GMT
Very brave of them, their future will involve them being sent to prison every time they refuse to serve……
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 1, 2024 9:27:42 GMT
US destroys 3 Houthi ships attempting to board a commercial ship. How long before Iran get fully involved in this conflict? Britain and France will be pulling America’s coat tail and involving themselves as well no doubt….. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 2, 2024 20:20:22 GMT
So finally after 20,000+ civilians have been killed in Gaza and another 500 in the West Bank, a Hamas leader has been killed………in Lebanon.
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Jan 3, 2024 20:15:04 GMT
Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 3, 2024 20:15:04 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 4, 2024 18:45:36 GMT
How on earth is the British media still allowing such heinous rhetoric to be spewed on our airwaves?
What she is suggesting, is utterly vile!
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Jan 4, 2024 19:15:03 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 4, 2024 19:15:03 GMT
Whilst the distinction between anti semitism and zionism is well understood on here, I think it is inevitable that one long term consequence of this conflict is that many people will now be polarised and entrenched as pro Jew/anti-Jewish or Pro Arab ( Muslim)/ anti-Muslim
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 4, 2024 19:55:06 GMT
Whilst the distinction between anti semitism and zionism is well understood on here, I think it is inevitable that one long term consequence of this conflict is that many people will now be polarised and entrenched as pro Jew/anti-Jewish or Pro Arab ( Muslim)/ anti-Muslim I don't think there is any "now" about it BJR and it certainly won't be as a result of this conflict. Zionists have attempted to conflate antisemitism with antizionism for decades and indeed they have had great success in doing so. And there is absolutely no doubt, that in the West, when it comes to conflicts, the default position of many people automatically, is that Islam must be bad and non Islam is good, without even taking a nano second to consider those specific conflict's actual merits. |
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Jan 4, 2024 19:59:13 GMT
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jan 4, 2024 19:59:13 GMT
How on earth is the British media still allowing such heinous rhetoric to be spewed on our airwaves? What she is suggesting, is utterly vile! That's saying the quiet bit out loud isn't it? Has there been any proof that 'every second house' contains a Hamas tunnel? |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 4, 2024 20:01:44 GMT
Whilst the distinction between anti semitism and zionism is well understood on here, I think it is inevitable that one long term consequence of this conflict is that many people will now be polarised and entrenched as pro Jew/anti-Jewish or Pro Arab ( Muslim)/ anti-Muslim I don't think there is any "now" about it BJR and it certainly won't be as a result of this conflict. Zionists have attempted to conflate antisemitism with antizionism for decades and indeed they have had great success in doing so. And there is absolutely no doubt, that in the West, when it comes to conflicts, the default position of many people automatically, is that Islam must be bad and non Islam is good, without even taking a nano second to consider those specific conflict's actual merits. I think thst is true Paul, but I think Judaism has( quite understandably) had a lot of sympathy and consideration since the second world war / holocaust ....but in light of the current brutality I think much of that sympathy will evaporate...not just towards the Zionists but Jews in general. Likewise for many people the separation of Hamas/ Arabs/ Muslims will not matter so much when sides are polarised ....it's one or the other....in my opinion |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 4, 2024 20:23:29 GMT
How on earth is the British media still allowing such heinous rhetoric to be spewed on our airwaves? What she is suggesting, is utterly vile! That's saying the quiet bit out loud isn't it? Has there been any proof that 'every second house' contains a Hamas tunnel? Of course there hasn't, not remotely. I can't believe she is being given a platform to sew the seeds of such disinformation, especially when it is used to justify genocide. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 4, 2024 20:29:17 GMT
I don't think there is any "now" about it BJR and it certainly won't be as a result of this conflict. Zionists have attempted to conflate antisemitism with antizionism for decades and indeed they have had great success in doing so. And there is absolutely no doubt, that in the West, when it comes to conflicts, the default position of many people automatically, is that Islam must be bad and non Islam is good, without even taking a nano second to consider those specific conflict's actual merits. I think thst is true Paul, but I think Judaism has( quite understandably) had a lot of sympathy and consideration since the second world war / holocaust ....but in light of the current brutality I think much of that sympathy will evaporate...not just towards the Zionists but Jews in general. Likewise for many people the separation of Hamas/ Arabs/ Muslims will not matter so much when sides are polarised ....it's one or the other....in my opinion I'm not so sure BJR. Israel has been getting away with this for decades, it's nothing new and one of the reasons why they've been getting away with it, is because the public in the West aren't all that bothered, when it's 'brown' people on the end of a good kicking. As I said earlier, the mindset that Islam is bad and non Islam (by default) must be good, is nothing new, when it comes to showing an allegiance for many people. The polarisation has been there for a long time. |
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Jan 4, 2024 20:34:55 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 4, 2024 20:34:55 GMT
I think thst is true Paul, but I think Judaism has( quite understandably) had a lot of sympathy and consideration since the second world war / holocaust ....but in light of the current brutality I think much of that sympathy will evaporate...not just towards the Zionists but Jews in general. Likewise for many people the separation of Hamas/ Arabs/ Muslims will not matter so much when sides are polarised ....it's one or the other....in my opinion (Sadly) I'm not so sure BJR. Israel has been getting away with this for decades, it's nothing new and one of the reasons why they've been getting away with it, is because the public in the West aren't all that bothered, when it's 'brown' people on the end of a good kicking. As I said earlier, the mindset that Islam is bad and non Islam (by default) must be good, is nothing new, when it comes to showing an allegiance for many people. I realise it's nothing new in one se se Paul, but I do think thst the current events will " clarify" things in some people's minds...ie once being sympathetic to Jews, perceived as eternal ( deliberate) victims now actually seen as ruthless inhuman oppressors. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 4, 2024 20:39:03 GMT
(Sadly) I'm not so sure BJR. Israel has been getting away with this for decades, it's nothing new and one of the reasons why they've been getting away with it, is because the public in the West aren't all that bothered, when it's 'brown' people on the end of a good kicking. As I said earlier, the mindset that Islam is bad and non Islam (by default) must be good, is nothing new, when it comes to showing an allegiance for many people. I realise it's nothing new in one se se Paul, but I do think thst the current events will " clarify" things in some people's minds...ie once being sympathetic to Jews, perceived as eternal ( deliberate) victims now actually seen as ruthless inhuman oppressors. I hope that doesn't happen BJR but rather that many people in the West wake up to the evil of Zionism. Sadly, I think that is unlikely however, most people (it seems to me) aren't really bothered, period. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 4, 2024 21:01:28 GMT
How on earth is the British media still allowing such heinous rhetoric to be spewed on our airwaves? What she is suggesting, is utterly vile! In a way I’m glad they keep rolling her out for interviews, it will be documented for future reference. Considering all these bold claims there’s still almost no physical evidence to back it up, it would be quite easy to rectify that surely? |
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Jan 4, 2024 21:13:02 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 4, 2024 21:13:02 GMT
How on earth is the British media still allowing such heinous rhetoric to be spewed on our airwaves? What she is suggesting, is utterly vile! In a way I’m glad they keep rolling her out for interviews, it will be documented for future reference. Considering all these bold claims there’s still almost no physical evidence to back it up, it would be quite easy to rectify that surely? It would indeed, unless there actually isn't any evidence of course! |
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Post by roylandstoke on Jan 4, 2024 21:54:24 GMT
How on earth is the British media still allowing such heinous rhetoric to be spewed on our airwaves? What she is suggesting, is utterly vile! She is a racist and should be arrested for hate speech. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 8, 2024 13:36:22 GMT
On point ...
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 9, 2024 15:52:56 GMT
How many deaths is too many before Israel start to find themselves under serious international pressure? I suspect, sadly, a lot more.............
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 9, 2024 18:03:13 GMT
How many deaths is too many before Israel start to find themselves under serious international pressure? I suspect, sadly, a lot more............. We can but hope ... |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 9, 2024 19:29:32 GMT
The quality of "journalists" these days.............
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 9, 2024 20:03:15 GMT
The quality of "journalists" these days............. Good grief, due to her own ignorance, she doesn't realise a) just how stupid she makes herself sound and b) what an utter racist she is. "These people" indeed. |
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Jan 9, 2024 21:29:14 GMT
The quality of "journalists" these days............. Good grief, due to her own ignorance, she doesn't realise a) just how stupid she makes herself sound and b) what an utter racist she is. "These people" indeed. She makes me sick. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 9, 2024 22:45:04 GMT
This is 12 years old and yet people will have you believe that October 7th 2023 is the only date you need to concern yourself with ...
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 10, 2024 14:51:04 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 10, 2024 14:59:13 GMT
He's consistently excellent. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 10, 2024 17:56:17 GMT
Good old Labour Friends of Israel, they spend more time in Jerusalem then they do serving their constituencies I swear.
Ruth Smeeth and my current constituent Tory Labour MP Christian Wakeford are there as always.........
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Post by noustie on Jan 11, 2024 14:04:43 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 11, 2024 15:13:51 GMT
I've watched some of the live footage (of course the British main stream media didn't bother) and I must say South Africa's case to the ICJ has been excellent. Israel's response appears to be to shout "South Africa are Hamas sympathisers" over and over.......... |
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Jan 11, 2024 15:21:29 GMT
Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 11, 2024 15:21:29 GMT
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