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Post by elystokie on Jun 18, 2024 7:57:22 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Jun 18, 2024 8:14:58 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Jun 18, 2024 8:21:00 GMT
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Post by gawa on Jun 18, 2024 8:37:29 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Jun 18, 2024 8:44:43 GMT
I can just imagine the outcry if they'd suggested that ten years ago ๐ Now it just seems like common sense to all but the hard of thinking.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jun 18, 2024 9:59:43 GMT
I can just imagine the outcry if they'd suggested that ten years ago ๐ Now it just seems like common sense to all but the hard of thinking. Pisser ๐ ๐คฃ
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Post by skip on Jun 18, 2024 10:08:25 GMT
Any of you follow @shottatexts on Tw*tter? Piss funny.
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Post by elystokie on Jun 18, 2024 13:40:11 GMT
Any of you follow @shottatexts on Tw*tter? Piss funny. Not on twitter but just had a quick look, some funny stuff ๐
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Post by elystokie on Jun 20, 2024 5:37:17 GMT
'Cannabis ruins lives' - Kier Starmer
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Post by elystokie on Jun 20, 2024 13:23:19 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Jun 20, 2024 14:21:48 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Jun 20, 2024 19:37:05 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Jun 21, 2024 19:36:05 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Jun 22, 2024 10:31:01 GMT
'Good enough for Jesus' ๐ www.thecannachronicles.com/sicilys-cannabis-cathedral-1174/'Cannabis would play a role in Christianity until Pope Innocent VIII tried to completely erase the herb from the churchโs record in the 15th centuryโฆ Not so Innocent after allโฆ Similar to the footprints in the sand parable, the Cathedral of Monreale reminds us that cannabis has indeed been here the whole time!' Particularly telling is the cannabis leaf being included in the image depicting Jesus and the curing of two blind men ๐ค
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Post by elystokie on Jun 23, 2024 8:17:18 GMT
'Good enough for Jesus' ๐ www.thecannachronicles.com/sicilys-cannabis-cathedral-1174/'Cannabis would play a role in Christianity until Pope Innocent VIII tried to completely erase the herb from the churchโs record in the 15th centuryโฆ Not so Innocent after allโฆ Similar to the footprints in the sand parable, the Cathedral of Monreale reminds us that cannabis has indeed been here the whole time!' Particularly telling is the cannabis leaf being included in the image depicting Jesus and the curing of two blind men ๐ค I'm not even slightly religious but I find this whole cannabis in the Bible thing quite interesting, hopefully others will too ๐ www.thehealingchurchri.com/books/a-bible-full-of-cannabis'Cannabis, the Tree of Life whose branches are woven throughout Holy Writ from Genesis to Revelations, is returning into the world. As our understanding of this miraculous gift matures, those who formerly shrank away in fear when challenged over their cannabis use will rapidly find the strength and courage to stand up and defend themselves like free women and men. When word spreads that the cannabis plant and its miraculous effects were the basis for both Judaism and Christianity and that this truth has been painstakingly documented by a combined effort of the Catholic Church and the Masons in all the worldโs cathedrals, the Stateโs ability to enforce statutory regulations or impose taxes melts away. Prohibition was enforceable only when the populace believed that cannabis was the stuff of โReefer Madnessโ. The Lamb of God takes all that away. Help us to spread the Good News, so that we can unwind from this madness gently.'
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Post by elystokie on Jun 24, 2024 8:23:05 GMT
These are the parts of the policies of the main parties that relate, directly or indirectly, to cannabis. The Emperor's New Clothes cult is seemingly still strong in all except the Lib Dems, Greens and SNP - www.cicouncil.org.uk/party-manifestos-and-cannabis/Quite ironic that the leader of the party that wants the strictest policies actually actively promotes one of the most harmful drugs available, one that's 114 times more harmful than cannabis
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Post by musik on Jun 24, 2024 22:55:26 GMT
I have a Q about punishment.
I just read that in Sweden you'll get a fine or prison up to six months if you drive a car and are stopped by the police and they find traces of cannabis in your blood. It also can take up to 14 days for it to disappear. In another documentary tv channel it said three weeks. And Sweden have no acceptable limit, but zero. Anyway. Since some far out politicians during the election were pushing for the death penalty here instead, I wonder:
Q: What would happen in England if the police stopped you and found traces of cannabis?
With the time aspect in mind, noone can then actually smoke cannabis, be safe in traffic, avoid punishment and continue to be an employed tax payer, is that so?
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Post by elystokie on Jun 25, 2024 6:17:03 GMT
I have a Q about punishment. I just read that in Sweden you'll get a fine or prison up to six months if you drive a car and are stopped by the police and they find traces of cannabis in your blood. It also can take up to 14 days for it to disappear. In another documentary tv channel it said three weeks. And Sweden have no acceptable limit, but zero. Anyway. Since some far out politicians during the election were pushing for the death penalty here instead, I wonder: Q: What would happen in England if the police stopped you and found traces of cannabis? With the time aspect in mind, noone can then actually smoke cannabis, be safe in traffic, avoid punishment and continue to be an employed tax payer, is that so? see below
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Post by elystokie on Jun 25, 2024 7:11:22 GMT
I have a Q about punishment. I just read that in Sweden you'll get a fine or prison up to six months if you drive a car and are stopped by the police and they find traces of cannabis in your blood. It also can take up to 14 days for it to disappear. In another documentary tv channel it said three weeks. And Sweden have no acceptable limit, but zero. Anyway. Since some far out politicians during the election were pushing for the death penalty here instead, I wonder: Q: What would happen in England if the police stopped you and found traces of cannabis? With the time aspect in mind, noone can then actually smoke cannabis, be safe in traffic, avoid punishment and continue to be an employed tax payer, is that so? Probably the same or similar in Sweden - in the UK the first thing is a roadside 'swipe' that apparently indicates any 'recent' use of cannabis or cocaine. If that shows a positive it's then a blood test back at the police station, which could still show negative dependant upon level of use in the last month or so, obviously medical cannabis patients such as myself will always show a positive in a blood test, for that reason medical cannabis patients have a 'medical defence' and the case would be thrown out of court should it get that far. You are right in that cannabis stays in the body for a lot longer than alcohol, this is because alcohol is actually toxic to the human body, hence the term 'intoxicated' being used for drunk people. The human body looks to expel toxic substances as quickly as possible, with alcohol it starts within an hour or two of consumption starting, with cannabis it can take up to (and sometimes considerably more than) a month, this is because excess THC is stored in the body fat of humans, on cessation of consumption this THC is gradually released. For anyone able to join the dots the above paragraph should speak volumes. Even if someone tests positive on both the roadside test and the blood test it doesn't mean they're impaired to drive and the low levels required for prosecution are basically no indication whatsoever of impairment in the vast majority of cases. It's for this reason that in the USA in some of the states that have legalised recreational cannabis they are looking to bring back roadside impairment tests, they may have done so already. You may find the study below interesting - www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0376871621005032?via%3Dihub'Conclusions Implementation of the Cannabis Act was not associated with evidence of significant post-legalization changes in traffic-injury ED visits in Ontario or Alberta among all drivers or youth drivers, in particular.' I gather in that in Sweden your prisons are as full to bursting as ours in the UK are (not terribly hard to see why ) so locking people up doesn't seem sensible to me but the death penalty?!? Future generations are already going to be laughing their collective bollocks off at our current worldwide drug laws but that would be an absolute belter for them I'm not saying driving under the influence of cannabis is completely risk free for everyone but roadside or blood tests provide no indication of impairment to drive.
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Post by musik on Jun 25, 2024 9:36:52 GMT
I have a Q about punishment. I just read that in Sweden you'll get a fine or prison up to six months if you drive a car and are stopped by the police and they find traces of cannabis in your blood. It also can take up to 14 days for it to disappear. In another documentary tv channel it said three weeks. And Sweden have no acceptable limit, but zero. Anyway. Since some far out politicians during the election were pushing for the death penalty here instead, I wonder: Q: What would happen in England if the police stopped you and found traces of cannabis? With the time aspect in mind, noone can then actually smoke cannabis, be safe in traffic, avoid punishment and continue to be an employed tax payer, is that so? Probably the same or similar in Sweden - in the UK the first thing is a roadside 'swipe' that apparently indicates any 'recent' use of cannabis or cocaine. If that shows a positive it's then a blood test back at the police station, which could still show negative dependant upon level of use in the last month or so, obviously medical cannabis patients such as myself will always show a positive in a blood test, for that reason medical cannabis patients have a 'medical defence' and the case would be thrown out of court should it get that far. You are right in that cannabis stays in the body for a lot longer than alcohol, this is because alcohol is actually toxic to the human body, hence the term 'intoxicated' being used for drunk people. The human body looks to expel toxic substances as quickly as possible, with alcohol it starts within an hour or two of consumption starting, with cannabis it can take up to (and sometimes considerably more than) a month, this is because excess THC is stored in the body fat of humans, on cessation of consumption this THC is gradually released. For anyone able to join the dots the above paragraph should speak volumes. Even if someone tests positive on both the roadside test and the blood test it doesn't mean they're impaired to drive and the low levels required for prosecution are basically no indication whatsoever of impairment in the vast majority of cases. It's for this reason that in the USA in some of the states that have legalised recreational cannabis they are looking to bring back roadside impairment tests, they may have done so already. You may find the study below interesting - www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0376871621005032?via%3Dihub'Conclusions Implementation of the Cannabis Act was not associated with evidence of significant post-legalization changes in traffic-injury ED visits in Ontario or Alberta among all drivers or youth drivers, in particular.' I gather in that in Sweden your prisons are as full to bursting as ours in the UK are (not terribly hard to see why ) so locking people up doesn't seem sensible to me but the death penalty?!? Future generations are already going to be laughing their collective bollocks off at our current worldwide drug laws but that would be an absolute belter for them I'm not saying driving under the influence of cannabis is completely risk free for everyone but roadside or blood tests provide no indication of impairment to drive. "(Sometimes considerably more than) a month"? That must be a really heavy user than, doing it for many years? If I read any fact page in Sweden it says up to two weeks, unless you are a real heavy user, since then the third week is mentioned. But it doesn't matter really how long it takes, since so many people are dependent on their car to get to and back from work in this long country, they would simply have to quit working. As far as I know, not many employed people here can continue with their work if they have been exposed using cannabis even once. But noone asks what chemical medicine anyone use. I think they almost always give the person in question a fine here. This is based on your income and can be anywhere between 1500 to 150.000 SEK (ยฃ115-ยฃ1150)! However, if they're also dealing they can get both the highest fine and time in prison.
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Post by elystokie on Jun 25, 2024 10:08:58 GMT
Probably the same or similar in Sweden - in the UK the first thing is a roadside 'swipe' that apparently indicates any 'recent' use of cannabis or cocaine. If that shows a positive it's then a blood test back at the police station, which could still show negative dependant upon level of use in the last month or so, obviously medical cannabis patients such as myself will always show a positive in a blood test, for that reason medical cannabis patients have a 'medical defence' and the case would be thrown out of court should it get that far. You are right in that cannabis stays in the body for a lot longer than alcohol, this is because alcohol is actually toxic to the human body, hence the term 'intoxicated' being used for drunk people. The human body looks to expel toxic substances as quickly as possible, with alcohol it starts within an hour or two of consumption starting, with cannabis it can take up to (and sometimes considerably more than) a month, this is because excess THC is stored in the body fat of humans, on cessation of consumption this THC is gradually released. For anyone able to join the dots the above paragraph should speak volumes. Even if someone tests positive on both the roadside test and the blood test it doesn't mean they're impaired to drive and the low levels required for prosecution are basically no indication whatsoever of impairment in the vast majority of cases. It's for this reason that in the USA in some of the states that have legalised recreational cannabis they are looking to bring back roadside impairment tests, they may have done so already. You may find the study below interesting - www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0376871621005032?via%3Dihub'Conclusions Implementation of the Cannabis Act was not associated with evidence of significant post-legalization changes in traffic-injury ED visits in Ontario or Alberta among all drivers or youth drivers, in particular.' I gather in that in Sweden your prisons are as full to bursting as ours in the UK are (not terribly hard to see why ) so locking people up doesn't seem sensible to me but the death penalty?!? Future generations are already going to be laughing their collective bollocks off at our current worldwide drug laws but that would be an absolute belter for them I'm not saying driving under the influence of cannabis is completely risk free for everyone but roadside or blood tests provide no indication of impairment to drive. "(Sometimes considerably more than) a month"? That must be a really heavy user than, doing it for many years? If I read any fact page in Sweden it says up to two weeks, unless you are a real heavy user, since then the third week is mentioned. But it doesn't matter really how long it takes, since so many people are dependent on their car to get to and back from work in this long country, they would simply have to quit working. As far as I know, not many employed people here can continue with their work if they have been exposed using cannabis even once. But noone asks what chemical medicine anyone use. I think they almost always give the person in question a fine here. This is based on your income and can be anywhere between 1500 to 150.000 SEK (ยฃ115-ยฃ1150)! However, if they're also dealing they can get both the highest fine and time in prison. The driving issue isn't peculiar to Sweden, a ban and a fine is normal for a positive cannabis test in this country. It's major reason I (and many others I'd imagine) signed up for prescription cannabis, it's a 'get out of jail free' card ๐ For this privilege I have to buy cannabis and have regular zoom appointments that cost me ยฃ50 a time, usually for less than ten minutes and usually with a 'consultant' that actually knows less about the subject than I do myself ๐คฆ "As far as I know, not many employed people here can continue with their work if they have been exposed using cannabis even once. But noone asks what chemical medicine anyone use." This is a point often overlooked, the methamphetamine driving limit is apparently way over what it would take to get someone twatted, it's used in ADHD meds being the reason, not that I'm aware of any roadside methamphetamine test ๐ค Nothing to stop someone getting behind the wheel of a car having ingested all sorts of pharmaceutical products, anti depressants, valium, tramadol etc. More Emperor's New Clothes I'm afraid. I'm still chuckling about someone proposing the death penalty ๐ How in the name of sweet baby jesus did they get into a position of influence? ๐
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Post by musik on Jun 25, 2024 11:43:49 GMT
"As far as I know, not many employed people here can continue with their work if they have been exposed using cannabis even once. But noone asks what chemical medicine anyone use." This is a point often overlooked, the methamphetamine driving limit is apparently way over what it would take to get someone twatted, it's used in ADHD meds being the reason, not that I'm aware of any roadside methamphetamine test ๐ค Nothing to stop someone getting behind the wheel of a car having ingested all sorts of pharmaceutical products, anti depressants, valium, tramadol etc. More Emperor's New Clothes I'm afraid. I'm still chuckling about someone proposing the death penalty ๐ How in the name of sweet baby jesus did they get into a position of influence? ๐ Exactly what I mean too. And to me it doesn't even have to be side effects affecting the thinking or mind focus. Vertigo, worse eye focus, cold hands and/or feet, severe headache are other common side effects from common chemical medicine. They should all make you take the bus instead. Hypocrisy. Suggesting the death penalty is nothing sensational here among the people. However, it's different when politicians suggesting it, even if it's smaller local parties. I think they saw drink/drugs and drive as attempted murder. So seriously, I recommend you to read about psychopaths. When people get to much power they more often show signs of psychopathy, lack of empathy and no soul if you like. Politicians, big company owners, military leaders and other "successful" people are good examples. As in many cases, psychopaths: is it something that develops or are they born with it?
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Post by elystokie on Jun 25, 2024 12:58:42 GMT
"As far as I know, not many employed people here can continue with their work if they have been exposed using cannabis even once. But noone asks what chemical medicine anyone use." This is a point often overlooked, the methamphetamine driving limit is apparently way over what it would take to get someone twatted, it's used in ADHD meds being the reason, not that I'm aware of any roadside methamphetamine test ๐ค Nothing to stop someone getting behind the wheel of a car having ingested all sorts of pharmaceutical products, anti depressants, valium, tramadol etc. More Emperor's New Clothes I'm afraid. I'm still chuckling about someone proposing the death penalty ๐ How in the name of sweet baby jesus did they get into a position of influence? ๐ Exactly what I mean too. And to me it doesn't even have to be side effects affecting the thinking or mind focus. Vertigo, worse eye focus, cold hands and/or feet, severe headache are other common side effects from common chemical medicine. They should all make you take the bus instead. Hypocrisy. Suggesting the death penalty is nothing sensational here among the people. However, it's different when politicians suggesting it, even if it's smaller local parties. I think they saw drink/drugs and drive as attempted murder. So seriously, I recommend you to read about psychopaths. When people get to much power they more often show signs of psychopathy, lack of empathy and no soul if you like. Politicians, big company owners, military leaders and other "successful" people are good examples. As in many cases, psychopaths: is it something that develops or are they born with it? If anyone is unfit to drive for whatever reason they should get the bus I agree, that's why we need an impairment test, roadside swipes are no indication, breathalysers for alcohol I'd keep. I have read about narcissists and psychopaths, I've still no idea whether they're born or made, lack of empathy is most certainly a major indicator as you say, easily angered is another, Trump is textbook. Not all narcissists are psychopaths but all psychopaths are narcissists ๐
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Post by musik on Jun 25, 2024 13:03:29 GMT
Very interesting Post EU Election analysis on TV before, presented by our two leading statisticians in this country.
They among other things talked about what issues people saw as the main issues for us in EU, according to the big conducted national survey.
The drug policy was in 1995 one of the main issues for 48% of the voters, in 2019 it was 30% and in 2024 it was 0%!
Piece in Europe was 66% in 1995, 58% in 2019 and 67% in 2024.
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Post by elystokie on Jun 25, 2024 13:55:21 GMT
Very interesting Post EU Election analysis on TV before, presented by our two leading statisticians in this country. They among other things talked about what issues people saw as the main issues for us in EU, according to the big conducted national survey. The drug policy was in 1995 one of the main issues for 48% of the voters, in 2019 it was 30% and in 2024 it was 0%! Piece in Europe was 66% in 1995, 58% in 2019 and 67% in 2024. How bizarre considering the impact it appears to be having on your society.
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Post by elystokie on Jun 26, 2024 13:08:55 GMT
Seems Biden hasn't gone far enough on getting rid of ludicrous cannabis laws for some, me included, here's hoping he rectifies that if he gets re-elected - www.marijuanamoment.net/marijuana-rescheduling-wont-fulfill-bidens-campaign-pledge-to-decriminalize-op-ed/?'Marijuana should have never been criminalized back in the 1970s. Even President Richard Nixonโs own commission recommended decriminalizing marijuana use. But Nixon wanted to criminalize and disrupt antiwar protestors and Black communities, so marijuana was placed on the Controlled Substances Act (CSA) in Schedule I. Ever since, individuals and communities all across America have been suffering the consequences of marijuana prohibition.' For 'America' read 'The World'.
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Post by elystokie on Jun 27, 2024 7:22:20 GMT
This was written 9 years ago and is still accurate today, unfortunately. julianbuchanan.wordpress.com/2015/04/02/20-benefits-from-the-war-on-drugs/'If these are key drivers that sustain prohibition and maintain the โwar between drugsโ then appealing to the groups that benefit from prohibition by providing endless research reports and campaigns to highlight the limited impact prohibition has upon supply and demand, or the negative unintended outcomes from criminalisation, may have limited political impact or sway given the benefits experienced by these powerful groups and organisations' It's a sad, sad situation and it's getting more and more absurd, as someone once sang.
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Post by elystokie on Jun 29, 2024 8:38:49 GMT
This is pretty bad news for the prohibitionist grifters in the USA, for years one of the cornerstones of their argument against drug laws repeal has been the cry 'It's against UN convention'. Maybe not for much longer - www.marijuanamoment.net/un-human-rights-experts-say-counties-should-legalize-drugs-to-eliminate-profits-from-illegal-trafficking/"For years, UN human rights experts have documented the devastating human rights and health impacts of drug policies over reliance on punishment, criminalisation and militarisation,โ the human rights expertsโ statement says. โOn World Drugs Day 2024, we call for transformative change in drug policy, by shifting from punishment towards harm reduction.โ "A report last year from an international coalition of advocacy groups, meanwhile, also found that global drug prohibition has fueled environmental destruction in some of the worldโs most critical ecosystems, undermining efforts to address the climate crisis." - Neil Woods, The Undercover Cop, was telling us this years ago ๐คฆ
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Post by elystokie on Jul 4, 2024 8:57:14 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Jul 5, 2024 6:41:51 GMT
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