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Post by elystokie on May 29, 2024 13:56:03 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Jun 1, 2024 11:40:34 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Jun 3, 2024 7:52:25 GMT
Lest we forget, cannabis is in the schedule it's in of the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 because it has 'potential for abuse' which as musik points out, could apply to literally anything (but obviously not alcohol, tobacco, sugar and caffeine...) and has 'no medical value'.
I take medical cannabis legally along with thousands and thousands of others, the number increases daily.
The UK exports more medical cannabis than pretty much any other country in the world but it has no medical value? đ
I don't think anyone will convince this fella, wonder if the guy that gave it to him got prosecuted, they were both breaking the law after all -
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Post by elystokie on Jun 6, 2024 15:20:02 GMT
A year on exactly from the start of the thread, nothing's changed law wise, figures from 2022 are unsurprisingly the highest to date. This year's protest/meet your MP by Anyone's Child has been cancelled due to the election, I didn't even bother to attempt to contact Gideon anyway, it was a waste of time when she was actually supposed to be interested. I do think people's attitude is changing tho, particularly towards cannabis, needs to change quicker still, it won't be long before we're killing 100 a week at the rate we're going. www.euronews.com/2023/12/20/drug-related-deaths-in-england-and-wales-surge-to-30-year-high
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jun 6, 2024 16:15:45 GMT
A year on exactly from the start of the thread, nothing's changed law wise, figures from 2022 are unsurprisingly the highest to date. This year's protest/meet your MP by Anyone's Child has been cancelled due to the election, I didn't even bother to attempt to contact Gideon anyway, it was a waste of time when she was actually supposed to be interested. I do think people's attitude is changing tho, particularly towards cannabis, needs to change quicker still, it won't be long before we're killing 100 a week at the rate we're going. www.euronews.com/2023/12/20/drug-related-deaths-in-england-and-wales-surge-to-30-year-highYou keep battling Ely. The medical info you post is very eye opening đ
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Post by elystokie on Jun 6, 2024 16:58:26 GMT
A year on exactly from the start of the thread, nothing's changed law wise, figures from 2022 are unsurprisingly the highest to date. This year's protest/meet your MP by Anyone's Child has been cancelled due to the election, I didn't even bother to attempt to contact Gideon anyway, it was a waste of time when she was actually supposed to be interested. I do think people's attitude is changing tho, particularly towards cannabis, needs to change quicker still, it won't be long before we're killing 100 a week at the rate we're going. www.euronews.com/2023/12/20/drug-related-deaths-in-england-and-wales-surge-to-30-year-highYou keep battling Ely. The medical info you post is very eye opening đ đ
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Post by elystokie on Jun 7, 2024 7:33:18 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Jun 8, 2024 9:42:05 GMT
I've spoken to a few of our own veterans that suffer from PTSD, apparently the prescribed pharmaceuticals do little to alleviate the symptoms for them, more than one credits the (illegal) use of cannabis with saving their life. Anyone who thinks pharmaceutical companies in the UK don't have a say in our own drug policies has a lot more faith in the people leading this country than I do. No wonder pharmaceutical companies in the USA spend twice as much money 'lobbying' as their nearest rivals, looks like they're getting their money's worth at the expense of their veterans health. x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1798501142777004505
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Post by elystokie on Jun 8, 2024 9:44:31 GMT
I've spoken to a few of our own veterans that suffer from PTSD, apparently the prescribed pharmaceuticals do little to alleviate the symptoms for them, more than one credits the (illegal) use of cannabis with saving their life. Anyone who thinks pharmaceutical companies in the UK don't have a say in our own drug policies has a lot more faith in the people leading this country than I do. No wonder pharmaceutical companies in the USA spend twice as much money 'lobbying' as their nearest rivals, looks like they're getting their money's worth at the expense of their veterans health. x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1798501142777004505'MDMA treatment for PTSD and other mental illnesses has a big drawback â a single treatment is effective. That means small profit potential compared to lifetime treatment with conventional pharmaceuticals. Maybe thatâs why an FDA advisory committee shot it down. One of the committee members actually works for Johnson & Johnson.' đ€ź
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Post by marylandstoke on Jun 8, 2024 17:00:49 GMT
Recent rules proposed by the Drug Enforcement Administration aim to reclassify cannabis as a schedule III drug, raising an important question for the nearly 15,000 dispensaries in the US: what does this mean?
Cannabis, particularly cannabis containing delta-9 THC, occupies a bizarre legal gray area. Itâs illegal on the federal level, but legal for either medical or recreational use in 39 states. The DEA classifies it as a schedule I substance, meaning itâs on par with potentially deadly drugs like heroin, yet nearly 4 million Americans use it with a doctorâs approval. Recreational dispensaries canât easily access federally regulated institutions, like banks, and yet they pay federal taxes.
That all might change soon.
The DEA proposed rules last month to reclassify cannabis from a schedule I to a schedule III substance. Once itâs rescheduled, cannabis will be on the same level as drugs like ketamine and Tylenol with codeine â which are legal but restricted. Itâs the first concrete signal that the DEA is shifting its attitude towards cannabis and its users, who for decades have been a target of the âwar on drugsâ. Rescheduling cannabis could give it legitimacy as a medicine â but dispensary owners and others in the industry have mixed feelings.
âItâs arguably the most significant step forward in the legal cannabis industryâs journey towards federal legalization,â says Morgan Paxhia, who co-founded Poseidon, a hedge fund that focuses on cannabis investments.
Paxhia says the cannabis industry isnât for the faint of heart, with extra costs and legal hurdles in every direction. Itâs hard to get insurance for a dispensary, for example, because itâs a burgeoning industry in a legal gray zone. Dispensaries canât access financial services like most bank loans or allow customers to use credit cards. The effective tax rate for dispensaries is high because they canât take typical deductions.
âWe expect some of those frictions will improve with the potential rescheduling,â says Paxhia.
But rescheduling wonât erase the cognitive dissonance between federal and state law. States where cannabis is legal for adult recreational use treat it more like alcohol. You just need to be over 21 and show an ID to buy it. Schedule III substances typically require a doctorâs prescription.
In fact, ârescheduling doesnât do a lot,â according to Aaron Smith, executive director of the National Cannabis Industry Association.
The one concrete advantage for dispensaries would be a reduced tax burden. He says that Section 280E of the tax code dictates: âIf youâre trafficking any schedule I or schedule II drug, then you cannot take business deductions.â If cannabis becomes a schedule III substance, âthen that problem basically goes away for the industryâ.
Some experts the Guardian spoke to, like Paxhia, were hopeful that rescheduling would ease barriers to other financial services. Others were skeptical.
Katharine Neill Harris, a drug policy fellow at Rice University, doubts rescheduling will lead more banks to open themselves to dispensaries. While a small number of credit unions already lend to dispensaries, the bigger banks arenât likely to risk it.
âBank of America, like Wells Fargo, I mean, theyâre just not going to enthusiastically embrace this kind of gray area of law. Thatâs just not how they operate,â she says.
These financial barriers contribute to the industryâs much-criticized lack of diversity, says Harris, because itâs hard to get a foot in the door if âyou donât have enough money to fund a business on your own. You can raise money, but then that requires a network of other people who are wealthy. And so the industry itself has just sort of skewed more towards white owners and white men in particular.â
While rescheduling will reduce the tax burden for existing dispensaries, Harris says, itâs unlikely to level the playing field for those looking to get into the industry.
Paxhia notes the lack of access to financial services can be dangerous, as dispensary workers âare just sitting ducks, because thereâs no credit card transactionsâ and they often have large sums of cash on location.
âPeople get shot and killed. Itâs horrible,â he said.
While rescheduling alone might not fix this problem, the Safer Banking Act, which was introduced in Congress in 2023, would guarantee that financial institutions could serve cannabis dispensaries without legal repercussions.
Itâs also possible that treating cannabis as a regulated medical drug could mean additional hurdles that state-legal dispensaries donât currently face.
âI know that with most schedule III drugs, you usually would have to go through a pharmacy. A lot of our associates were like, âHey, do we have to become pharmacists now?â So thatâs a concern,â says Dominique White, director of people and operations at Ivy Hall, an Illinois-based dispensary.
But, Smith says, âthatâs a very unlikely situation.â He adds that the Biden administration âis under pressure to do something positive on cannabisâ, and âif this somehow backfired, and now all of a sudden the FDA is going to require these businesses to obtain their approval to sell cannabis, well, that would be a huge political embarrassment. That said, itâs not impossible.â
Smith is advocating for a memorandum that would ensure the federal government doesnât intervene with state-legal cannabis operations after rescheduling, similar to the Cole Memorandum issued in 2013.
Rescheduling cannabis might not fix all or most of the cannabis industryâs legal problems, but many with a stake in the industry hope that this is the first step towards descheduling, which would put cannabis legally on par with alcohol.
âWeâve got the majority of Americans who live in a state that has made cannabis legal for adults and so theyâre treating it comparably to alcohol. Moving into schedule III does not align federal law with those laws, but it moves us in that direction,â said Smith.
White, who believes that cannabis is âtruly medicineâ, thinks itâs illogical that there are so many more hurdles for buying and selling cannabis than there are for alcohol, which she says is âso much more damaging to the bodyâ.
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Post by marylandstoke on Jun 8, 2024 17:04:46 GMT
Meanwhile, same paper, same day:
I have been prescribing antidepressants since 1991. Like most medications, they are imperfect tools: they have side-effects and donât work for everybody. Some patients report negative effects, or that their depression does not improve, and they may require changing to a different antidepressant. For those they do help, antidepressants undoubtedly improve depression and reduce the risk of suicide.
Very rarely, in my clinical practice, do patients complain that they cannot stop their medication because of the symptoms when they try. Unpleasant physical or emotional experiences for a few days or a couple of weeks after stopping antidepressants, yes: dizziness, headache, nausea, insomnia, irritability, vivid dreams, electricity-like sensations or rapid mood swings. But patients who could not stop the antidepressant because of these symptoms? In my 33 years of clinical practice, I can recall them on the fingers of one hand.
This is why I have been sceptical â along with what I believe to be most psychiatrists, psychiatry organisations and clinical guidelines â about claims in some scientific papers and the media, that âmillions of people are addicted to antidepressantsâ.
âAddictionâ means that users crave the substance and cannot stop taking it compulsively, as with opioids or street drugs. However, there is no craving or compulsion for antidepressants, and our clinical experience tells us that only a small minority of people experience disabling symptoms when they stop them. The largest ever study on the topic has confirmed this.
This analysis, which I took no part in, looks at 79 previous studies, encompassing more than 16,000 people stopping antidepressants, and compares them with more than 4,000 people ceasing to take a placebo. Pharmaceutical companies were not involved in this new analysis, although some of the data analysed was from trials funded by industry.
The most important finding is that the proportion of people who stop antidepressants and experience severe discontinuation symptoms (which would probably necessitate restarting the antidepressant) is 1 in 30 to 35 patients: much, much smaller than the previous headline figure of about 1 in 4 patients.
Even more fascinating is that about 1 in 3 patients who stop antidepressants experience some (not severe) discontinuation symptoms, but so do 1 in 6 patients who stop the placebo. This indicates that some of the antidepressant discontinuation symptoms are probably not a result of stopping antidepressants as such but rather to the attribution of some symptoms, especially now that there is an expectation that such symptoms would occur.
Of course, I am not suggesting that people who stop taking antidepressants are inventing symptoms, or that the symptoms are âall in the mindâ â incidentally, an unhelpful expression that serves no purpose. Rather, the symptoms are real, but may be unrelated to stopping antidepressants yet erroneously attributed to this.
So, where does the discrepancy between previous alarming figures and this new study come from? Previous studies used less robust scientific research designs, because they did not include comparisons with a placebo, or they used a study design that preferentially attracted people who wanted to volunteer their experience of antidepressant discontinuation symptoms, biasing the results. For instance, online surveys are more likely to attract people who have stopped antidepressants and experienced symptoms rather than those who have stopped antidepressants with little discomfort.
This previous research, albeit less robust, had the positive effect of bringing attention to the debate around antidepressant discontinuation. This new study is not perfect, and in the weeks and months to come there will be debate about the quality of the data and analysis presented. However, this work represents some of the best available research on this crucial topic.
Because of that, doctors should now present these more accurate rates of discontinuation symptoms when discussing antidepressants with their patients. And people who have been advised by their doctor to start an antidepressant â indicating that they have a significant depression that is affecting their lives â should be reassured by the very low incidence of severe discontinuation symptoms. People who have been well on antidepressants for some time (six to nine months of wellbeing if it is the first time, longer if it is the second or third time) should talk to their doctors about stopping them. If they decide to do so, they should reduce it slowly over two to four months, while being aware that not all the unpleasant sensations and emotions they experience are down to stopping the medication. For the small minority who may experience severe discontinuation symptoms, a reintroduction of the antidepressant followed by an even slower reduction is needed.
People will make different decisions through an informed discussion with their doctor. Some will decide that antidepressants are not for them. Some will decide that they do not want to stop the antidepressant. Many factors will influence these decisions, but at least the now-debunked myth that antidepressants are addictive will no longer be one of these factors.
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Post by elystokie on Jun 8, 2024 21:52:20 GMT
'White, who believes that cannabis is âtruly medicineâ, thinks itâs illogical that there are so many more hurdles for buying and selling cannabis than there are for alcohol, which she says is âso much more damaging to the bodyâ.
You won't get the Daily Mail printing that any time soon đ
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jun 9, 2024 10:09:43 GMT
Impressive reuse of water cooler tanks.
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Post by elystokie on Jun 9, 2024 13:58:05 GMT
Impressive reuse of water cooler tanks. The Scythians used a tent to create a similar thing about 5,000 years ago. 'The Scythians realised the pain relieving effects of marijuana, which no doubt came in useful if they had been in a riding accident or a fierce battle.' They didn't just use it medically, they loved to get stoned and pissed apparently đ www.britishmuseum.org/blog/introducing-scythians
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jun 9, 2024 14:09:49 GMT
Impressive reuse of water cooler tanks. The Scythians used a tent to create a similar thing about 5,000 years ago. 'The Scythians realised the pain relieving effects of marijuana, which no doubt came in useful if they had been in a riding accident or a fierce battle.' They didn't just use it medically, they loved to get stoned and pissed apparently đ www.britishmuseum.org/blog/introducing-scythiansSound a right bunch of bastards.
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Post by elystokie on Jun 9, 2024 15:11:03 GMT
The Scythians used a tent to create a similar thing about 5,000 years ago. 'The Scythians realised the pain relieving effects of marijuana, which no doubt came in useful if they had been in a riding accident or a fierce battle.' They didn't just use it medically, they loved to get stoned and pissed apparently đ www.britishmuseum.org/blog/introducing-scythiansSound a right bunch of bastards. Probably the best way of staying alive in those days.
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Post by musik on Jun 10, 2024 11:45:39 GMT
I kind of promised to report back if I found any of the 120 political parties to choose from for the EU Election yesterday had a more open attitude to cannabis and maybe even wanted to legalise privat use.
I didn't, but during the evening later on Sunday they mentioned one political party. They are/were (if they don't continue) Folklistan. They have two leaders, the former Social Democrat Jon Emmanuel and the former Christ Democrat Sara Skyttedal. This is a party who was existed before historically one or two times and once got 11% according to the statistician in the studio. They normally focus on one specific issue only to get into Brussels.
This time it wasn't that clear what the issue was, but when it came out it was about cannabis legalisation the hate began from the public and they were kind of hiding towards the end of the campaign. They only got 0,5% of the votes and dropped like a stone in the voting race compared to what they had hoped for, where 4,0% was the limit to get 1 person into Brussels.
At the same time earlier last week the Conservatives M and the Christ Democrats KD gladly presented Sweden to be more like Europe (rather than Africa/Asia/South America obviously) by letting people be able to buy more (of the drug) alcohol and in an easier way than before through a new availability.
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Post by Eggybread on Jun 10, 2024 11:53:28 GMT
I kind of promised to report back if I found any of the 120 political parties to choose from for the EU Election yesterday had a more open attitude to cannabis and maybe even wanted to legalise privat use. I didn't, but during the evening later on Sunday they mentioned one political party. They are/were (if they don't continue) Folklistan. They have two leaders, the former Social Democrat Jon Emmanuel and the former Christ Democrat Sara Skyttedal. This is a party who was existed before historically one or two times and once got 11% according to the statistician in the studio. They normally focus on one specific issue only to get into Brussels. This time it wasn't that clear what the issue was, but when it came out it was about cannabis legalisation the hate began from the public and they were kind of hiding towards the end of the campaign. They only got 0,5% of the votes and dropped like a stone in the voting race compared to what they had hoped for, where 4,0% was the limit to get 1 person into Brussels. At the same time earlier last week the Conservatives M and the Christ Democrats KD gladly presented Sweden to be more like Europe (rather than Africa/Asia/South America obviously) by letting people be able to buy more (of the drug) alcohol and in an easier way than before through a new availability. I dont think there are any active parties who openly want to legalise cannabis in the UK .There used to be but alas no more.
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Post by elystokie on Jun 10, 2024 11:54:49 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Jun 10, 2024 12:07:50 GMT
I kind of promised to report back if I found any of the 120 political parties to choose from for the EU Election yesterday had a more open attitude to cannabis and maybe even wanted to legalise privat use. I didn't, but during the evening later on Sunday they mentioned one political party. They are/were (if they don't continue) Folklistan. They have two leaders, the former Social Democrat Jon Emmanuel and the former Christ Democrat Sara Skyttedal. This is a party who was existed before historically one or two times and once got 11% according to the statistician in the studio. They normally focus on one specific issue only to get into Brussels. This time it wasn't that clear what the issue was, but when it came out it was about cannabis legalisation the hate began from the public and they were kind of hiding towards the end of the campaign. They only got 0,5% of the votes and dropped like a stone in the voting race compared to what they had hoped for, where 4,0% was the limit to get 1 person into Brussels. At the same time earlier last week the Conservatives M and the Christ Democrats KD gladly presented Sweden to be more like Europe (rather than Africa/Asia/South America obviously) by letting people be able to buy more (of the drug) alcohol and in an easier way than before through a new availability. I dont think there are any active parties who openly want to legalise cannabis in the UK .There used to be but alas no more. I think the Greens and Lib-Dems are open to it but as you say there's no party actively promoting it. Personally I think public opinion on the matter would surprise most political parties, particularly in people under the age of around 40. I spoke to a lot of people last week in Cambridge around my son's ages, they pretty much all think our laws are ridiculous and most more or less ignore them completely. I also spoke to a mate of my son's that has worked in teen mental health for 10 years or so, since he's been doing it he's seen two people suffering through cannabis, both were suffering from paranoia and both were fine after a few days. He hasn't seen a single case of 'cannabis induced psychosis' ever.
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Post by musik on Jun 12, 2024 23:05:48 GMT
Sweden draw the opposite conclusions based on how it has developed in Canada. Source: Svenska Dagbladet (newspaper).
"The conclusion must be that legalization creates more problems than it solves. The advantages of a ban outweigh the disadvantages. It is not models of legalization that we need to discuss and experiment with - the discussion should instead be about how our current model can be improved to reduce drug use, not increase it."
The article also mentions the violence among the gangs has instead increased(!) since the legalisation.
Peter Moilanen
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Post by elystokie on Jun 13, 2024 5:41:19 GMT
Sweden draw the opposite conclusions based on how it has developed in Canada. Source: Svenska Dagbladet (newspaper). "The conclusion must be that legalization creates more problems than it solves. The advantages of a ban outweigh the disadvantages. It is not models of legalization that we need to discuss and experiment with - the discussion should instead be about how our current model can be improved to reduce drug use, not increase it." The article also mentions the violence among the gangs has instead increased(!) since the legalisation. Peter Moilanen Interesting. So Uruguay (who legalised cannabis in 2013), Canada, Germany, Malta, pretty much half the USA, Mexico etc all have it wrong? Portugal who's decriminalisation of drugs took them from the 96th safest country to 5th safest country have got it wrong? But Sweden's methods are the example to follow? Can you see why I'm having trouble getting this to add up? news.sky.com/story/swedens-deadly-gang-war-has-turned-peaceful-country-into-murder-hotspot-13071608
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Post by elystokie on Jun 14, 2024 7:02:54 GMT
Two people who know their stuff (about what's actually known so far, which could turn out to be very little) doing their best to dispel myths.
I shudder to think how many people are suffering, have suffered and died, been incarcerated, lost their homes, their families, their ability to get a decent job and for what?
Largely thanks to people buying into the absolute bollocks perpetrated by Harry J Anslinger, Richard Nixon and various 'News' outlets.
It's a travesty.
Anyway, great video, first bit is about the Kennedy assassination because the Dr was one of the medics present after that it's about cannabis.
The book is free on Amazon Kindle, I've downloaded it but not yet read it.
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Post by marylandstoke on Jun 14, 2024 10:03:39 GMT
A woman who was pulled over by Minnesota police officers faces up to 30 years in prison after a bong containing water that tested positive for methamphetamine was discovered in her car, despite Minnesota decriminalizing drug paraphernalia last year.
The case shows how some are still affected by harsher laws from the âwar on drugsâ era.
Jessica Beske of Fargo, North Dakota, was pulled over in Polk county, Minnesota, while driving on Highway 59 when deputies reportedly smelled marijuana coming from Beskeâs car, the Minnesota Reformer reported.
Officers allege that they discovered a bong, a glass container containing a âcrystal substanceâ, and other drug paraphernalia in the 43-year-oldâs car.
In court documents viewed by the Guardian, Beske wrote that police found three pieces of drug paraphernalia that âtested positive for methâ.
She added that she was charged with first-degree drug possession based on the weight of the âglass paraphernalia and bong waterâ despite the water only containing residual amounts of substance.
In the document, Beske also asked for her car and $1,400 in cash that she won from a casino to be returned to her as it was ânot subject to forfeitureâ.
Despite the latest decriminalization laws in Minnesota, bong water is still treated as a controlled substance due to an existing law.
The rule concerning bong water was written following the case State v Peck, a 2009 state supreme court case, the Reformer reported. The court ruled that bong water could be considered a âdrug mixtureâ and should count towards drug weights when considering penalties.
Those who are convicted on first-degree possession charges face up to 30 years in prison, a $1m fine or both, the Reformer reported.
The Polk county attorneyâs office, who is handling the case, did not immediately return a request for comment.
Beske said she was shocked to discover that she could be facing such a large amount of prison time when she first saw her charge sheet.
âAll I could see was [the possibility of] 30 to 40 years. And I couldnât speak, I couldnât breathe,â Beske said.
She added that she thought the potential penalty was a âmistakeâ, especially since Minnesota decriminalized drug paraphernalia. But after doing some research, she learned where the law around bong water came from and watched the legislative session when it was passed.
âThey didnât even discuss it at all. They just pushed it through. Nobodyâs even thinking about whose lives are affected by this,â she said of the session.
Beske said she was now working with a lawyer to help her navigate through the extraordinary penalty and remains hopeful that the law could change.
âItâs just so wrong that I just have to hold hope that this is going to change the law, hopefully,â Beske said. âI donât want anybody else to have to have to go through this.â
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Post by marylandstoke on Jun 14, 2024 10:30:19 GMT
And in better news:
Cannabis regulators in Massachusetts have issued an administrative order that will allow marijuana to be transported to the stateâs famous islands of Marthaâs Vineyard and Nantucket for the first time.
The order came amid reports Marthaâs Vineyard was about to run out of pot, with one dispensary temporarily closing in May and the other saying it would close by September without further supplies.
Regulations had barred the transportation of cannabis over state waters from the Massachusetts mainland to the islands that have a rich history and are best known in modern times as summer playgrounds of the liberal elite.
One of the dispensaries, Island Time, had filed a lawsuit against the Massachusetts Cannabis Control Commission, the state regulator.
âWe need a solution, we need it for patients, we need it for those who utilize cannabis, and we need it now,â said Geoff Rose, owner of Island Time dispensary, NBC reported, adding: âIâm in a critical situation. I mean, Iâm literally within a week or so Iâm having to shut down permanently.â
Massachusetts to pardon âhundreds of thousandsâ with marijuana charges. The other dispensary, Fine Fettle, was the sole grower of pot on the island and had provided all the pot for sale. But Fine Fettle said the small grow operation was no longer economically feasible and was closing it down.
Although Massachusetts voters opted to legalize marijuana more than seven years ago, the state commission had previously not allowed transportation of pot to the islands. It had taken the position that transporting pot across the ocean â whether by boat or plane â risked running afoul of federal laws.
Federal government attitudes show signs of softening, but cannabis is still not legal under federal law. The US Department of Justice last month moved to reclassify marijuana as a less dangerous drug, though still not a legal one for recreational use.
There are more than 230 registered medical users and thousands more recreational ones residing on Marthaâs Vineyard.
The tension between conflicting state and federal regulations has played out across the country as states have legalized pot. California law, for example, expressly allows cannabis to be transported to stores on Catalina Island, while Hawaii last year dealt with its own difficulties transporting medical marijuana between islands by amending a law to allow it
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Post by Eggybread on Jun 14, 2024 10:35:35 GMT
A woman who was pulled over by Minnesota police officers faces up to 30 years in prison after a bong containing water that tested positive for methamphetamine was discovered in her car, despite Minnesota decriminalizing drug paraphernalia last year. The case shows how some are still affected by harsher laws from the âwar on drugsâ era. Jessica Beske of Fargo, North Dakota, was pulled over in Polk county, Minnesota, while driving on Highway 59 when deputies reportedly smelled marijuana coming from Beskeâs car, the Minnesota Reformer reported. Officers allege that they discovered a bong, a glass container containing a âcrystal substanceâ, and other drug paraphernalia in the 43-year-oldâs car. In court documents viewed by the Guardian, Beske wrote that police found three pieces of drug paraphernalia that âtested positive for methâ. She added that she was charged with first-degree drug possession based on the weight of the âglass paraphernalia and bong waterâ despite the water only containing residual amounts of substance. In the document, Beske also asked for her car and $1,400 in cash that she won from a casino to be returned to her as it was ânot subject to forfeitureâ. Despite the latest decriminalization laws in Minnesota, bong water is still treated as a controlled substance due to an existing law. The rule concerning bong water was written following the case State v Peck, a 2009 state supreme court case, the Reformer reported. The court ruled that bong water could be considered a âdrug mixtureâ and should count towards drug weights when considering penalties. Those who are convicted on first-degree possession charges face up to 30 years in prison, a $1m fine or both, the Reformer reported. The Polk county attorneyâs office, who is handling the case, did not immediately return a request for comment. Beske said she was shocked to discover that she could be facing such a large amount of prison time when she first saw her charge sheet. âAll I could see was [the possibility of] 30 to 40 years. And I couldnât speak, I couldnât breathe,â Beske said. She added that she thought the potential penalty was a âmistakeâ, especially since Minnesota decriminalized drug paraphernalia. But after doing some research, she learned where the law around bong water came from and watched the legislative session when it was passed. âThey didnât even discuss it at all. They just pushed it through. Nobodyâs even thinking about whose lives are affected by this,â she said of the session. Beske said she was now working with a lawyer to help her navigate through the extraordinary penalty and remains hopeful that the law could change. âItâs just so wrong that I just have to hold hope that this is going to change the law, hopefully,â Beske said. âI donât want anybody else to have to have to go through this.â Its just farcical isnt it.I undertsand that the paraphernalia termonology changes when drugs are actually found within or attched to the "bong" But the threat of 30 years along with the confusion of the law just shows what we all know and that is, the laws an ass.
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Post by elystokie on Jun 14, 2024 14:38:28 GMT
A woman who was pulled over by Minnesota police officers faces up to 30 years in prison after a bong containing water that tested positive for methamphetamine was discovered in her car, despite Minnesota decriminalizing drug paraphernalia last year. The case shows how some are still affected by harsher laws from the âwar on drugsâ era. Jessica Beske of Fargo, North Dakota, was pulled over in Polk county, Minnesota, while driving on Highway 59 when deputies reportedly smelled marijuana coming from Beskeâs car, the Minnesota Reformer reported. Officers allege that they discovered a bong, a glass container containing a âcrystal substanceâ, and other drug paraphernalia in the 43-year-oldâs car. In court documents viewed by the Guardian, Beske wrote that police found three pieces of drug paraphernalia that âtested positive for methâ. She added that she was charged with first-degree drug possession based on the weight of the âglass paraphernalia and bong waterâ despite the water only containing residual amounts of substance. In the document, Beske also asked for her car and $1,400 in cash that she won from a casino to be returned to her as it was ânot subject to forfeitureâ. Despite the latest decriminalization laws in Minnesota, bong water is still treated as a controlled substance due to an existing law. The rule concerning bong water was written following the case State v Peck, a 2009 state supreme court case, the Reformer reported. The court ruled that bong water could be considered a âdrug mixtureâ and should count towards drug weights when considering penalties. Those who are convicted on first-degree possession charges face up to 30 years in prison, a $1m fine or both, the Reformer reported. The Polk county attorneyâs office, who is handling the case, did not immediately return a request for comment. Beske said she was shocked to discover that she could be facing such a large amount of prison time when she first saw her charge sheet. âAll I could see was [the possibility of] 30 to 40 years. And I couldnât speak, I couldnât breathe,â Beske said. She added that she thought the potential penalty was a âmistakeâ, especially since Minnesota decriminalized drug paraphernalia. But after doing some research, she learned where the law around bong water came from and watched the legislative session when it was passed. âThey didnât even discuss it at all. They just pushed it through. Nobodyâs even thinking about whose lives are affected by this,â she said of the session. Beske said she was now working with a lawyer to help her navigate through the extraordinary penalty and remains hopeful that the law could change. âItâs just so wrong that I just have to hold hope that this is going to change the law, hopefully,â Beske said. âI donât want anybody else to have to have to go through this.â Its just farcical isnt it.I undertsand that the paraphernalia termonology changes when drugs are actually found within or attched to the "bong" But the threat of 30 years along with the confusion of the law just shows what we all know and that is, the laws an ass. Indeed, said laws are based on nothing more than unfounded scaremongering and racism, they never will make sense đ
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Post by elystokie on Jun 14, 2024 15:18:10 GMT
A year on exactly from the start of the thread, nothing's changed law wise, figures from 2022 are unsurprisingly the highest to date. This year's protest/meet your MP by Anyone's Child has been cancelled due to the election, I didn't even bother to attempt to contact Gideon anyway, it was a waste of time when she was actually supposed to be interested. I do think people's attitude is changing tho, particularly towards cannabis, needs to change quicker still, it won't be long before we're killing 100 a week at the rate we're going. www.euronews.com/2023/12/20/drug-related-deaths-in-england-and-wales-surge-to-30-year-highYou keep battling Ely. The medical info you post is very eye opening đ It'll probably be Gareth Snell next year, I've communicated with him before on the matter, he's still very much a non believer but I reckon he won't be as scared as Gideon and may well agree to a meeting đ€ I can't wait đ
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Post by elystokie on Jun 15, 2024 0:37:27 GMT
The Times They are a'Changin' đ¶ American Medical Association have shifted position quite substantially. www.marijuanamoment.net/american-medical-association-endorses-drug-decriminalization/?'At Wednesdayâs meeting, Ryan Englander, representing AMAâs New England delegation, said the âwar on drugs is quite reminiscent of the phrase, the beatings will continue until morale improves.â âWe have tried for decades to criminalize our way out of a substance use crisis in this country, and it has not worked,â he said. âWe need to move to something different and betterâsomething that actually works.â đ
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Post by elystokie on Jun 16, 2024 8:12:08 GMT
Interesting podcast about Dr Callie Seaman and her cannabis journey. Thankfully her Dad was brave enough to ignore the law when her school grades dropped due to conventional epilepsy drugs, switched her to cannabis, epilepsy issue addressed, grades improved dramatically. Beyond ridiculous that it isn't widely available, this could well be a Post Office type scandal in a few years and hopefully Theresa May and Victoria Atkins will be in the dock facing questions, they certainly should be. www.mapletreeconsultants.co.uk/post/dr-callie-seaman-we-re-making-sure-patients-have-a-voiceâI would like to see a minister for cannabis, I would like to see a whole department for cannabis, which encompasses everything, and those people become experts in it. We are going to be putting more papers forward, weâre looking at GP prescribing and making sure patients have a voice and can connect with industry.â If we don't, we'll be falling behind more progressive countries (we already are), but more importantly our people will continue to suffer needlessly thanks to people refusing to see that the Emperor is still as bollock naked as he always was. Personally I think we need far more than that, we need an MHS to run alongside the NHS, run correctly it would take a massive amount of pressure off the NHS. And those shysters that have been creaming some very nice profits growing it in this country on a 'special licence' and exporting it should contribute heavily towards it.
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