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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 29, 2023 18:13:21 GMT
After the last 4 home performances🤔
Our tactic seems to be to launch it diagonally to either wing back and hope for the best.
The summer will be massive and I’d personally get rid of the majority of players and start from scratch
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2023 18:15:36 GMT
If he left tomorrow i'd lose no sleep
just can't buy in to the bloke
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Post by chigstoke on Apr 29, 2023 18:16:39 GMT
If we don't sort out the home form, we are in for a long and hard season next time round.
We are lucky we hit that purple patch in March, massively in fact. Take away a couple of away wins and we're all collectively clenching our arse cheeks next Saturday.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 29, 2023 18:18:12 GMT
A good pre season with 5 or 6 decent signings and we’ll be pissing this tin pot League. Dunna werrit and enjoy the summer😀
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Post by theonlooker on Apr 29, 2023 18:18:32 GMT
His football is absolutely appalling and his substitution of Taylor, only to move a right back inside of a three and remain with a back five at 1 nil down, at home, was rank bad management from the very bottom drawer.
He's been outcoached by some shit managers this season but Ainsworth is a new low.
I'm struggling to find a single positive about his management. His football is shit, his substitutions are diabolical, his transfers so far have been ropey and his character is dubious. Without that purple patch he would be in Lambert and Jones territory.
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 29, 2023 18:19:05 GMT
I'm not sure what the alternative is to backing him fully this summer though.
Given the scale of the rebuild needed, half-measures won't cut it and we can't be half pregnant. He either stays or goes.
Has he done enough to earn the trust? No - but at least he knows where the dead bodies in the squad are buried (everywhere!)
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Post by iamstokie on Apr 29, 2023 18:19:10 GMT
we can’t carry on with him , it’s that simple
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Post by iamstokie on Apr 29, 2023 18:20:27 GMT
I'm not sure what the alternative is to backing him fully this summer though. Given the scale of the rebuild needed, half-measures won't cut it and we can't be half pregnant. He either stays or goes. Has he done enough to earn the trust? No - but at least he knows where the dead bodies in the squad are buried (everywhere!) does he ??? , i very much doubt it tbh |
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Post by wakeypotter on Apr 29, 2023 18:20:30 GMT
After the last 4 home performances🤔 Our tactic seems to be to launch it diagonally to either wing back and hope for the best. The summer will be massive and I’d personally get rid of the majority of players and start from scratch For the first time today I said to my son neil is not the right man. I want him to be and always been behind him but 12 defeats at home takes some doing and 2 of the last 4 have been against utter dogshit teams. I just don’t know anymore |
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Post by questionable on Apr 29, 2023 18:21:16 GMT
After the last 4 home performances🤔 Our tactic seems to be to launch it diagonally to either wing back and hope for the best. The summer will be massive and I’d personally get rid of the majority of players and start from scratch I can honestly see him walking soon, he’s walked into the biggest turd of turds with our current idiot son in charge. Not a cat in hells chance he’ll succeed as it’s an entire team he needs in a matter of weeks. Club is a joke |
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Post by gawa on Apr 29, 2023 18:21:46 GMT
I'm surprised that he seems to still get off scoff free and people still believe the "it's the players and everyone but me to blame" attitude.
The 10 months prior to Alex Neil being appointed were diabolical. But somehow Alex Neil has managed to achieve less points in the 39 league games he's overseen compared to the 39 before.
And if Watford win next week then the PPG from the 6 games before AN took over will be higher than the 40 games he's overseen this season.
Standards have dropped significantly and it seems the managers still the last to be held accountable.
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Post by fraybentos on Apr 29, 2023 18:22:23 GMT
I would get rid now, or come oct and a few more home defeats..will be new manager requiring his own players again
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Post by minnierover on Apr 29, 2023 18:22:37 GMT
Beginning to??
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Post by wearestoke80 on Apr 29, 2023 18:24:43 GMT
Sack him bring some fucker else in it’ll be the same outcome. Might aswell just stick with what we’ve got.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Apr 29, 2023 18:24:59 GMT
A good pre season with 5 or 6 decent signings and we’ll be pissing this tin pot League. Dunna werrit and enjoy the summer😀 Yeah, dunner werrit, he's got 10 mint loan signings lined up. |
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 29, 2023 18:25:04 GMT
After the last 4 home performances🤔 Our tactic seems to be to launch it diagonally to either wing back and hope for the best. The summer will be massive and I’d personally get rid of the majority of players and start from scratch I can honestly see him walking soon, he’s walked into the biggest turd of turds with our current idiot son in charge. Not a cat in hells chance he’ll succeed as it’s an entire team he needs in a matter of weeks. Club is a joke He's joined us for money so he won't be walking away. |
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Post by theonlooker on Apr 29, 2023 18:25:15 GMT
I'm surprised that he seems to still get off scoff free and people still believe the "it's the players and everyone but me to blame" attitude. The 10 months prior to Alex Neil being appointed were diabolical. But somehow Alex Neil has managed to achieve less points in the 39 league games he's overseen compared to the 39 before. And if Watford win next week then the PPG from the 6 games before AN took over will be higher than the 40 games he's overseen this season. Standards have dropped significantly and it seems the managers still the last to be held accountable. Take a look at what a very bland Mowbray is doing at Sunderland. Today he played two centre midfielders at centre half and played a back four against Keinan Davis, and is on the verge of taking a side that has been without it's talisman for most of the season, and more recently most of it's centre halves into the play offs. Neil shits himself and plays a back 5 against Cardiff and QPR. Both managers are managing teams that 'arent theirs' but Mowbray didn't have the luxury of bringing in as many players as Neil did in January. He's massively, massively under performed. |
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Post by onyourbonce on Apr 29, 2023 18:28:35 GMT
Sack him bring some fucker else in it’ll be the same outcome. Might aswell just stick with what we’ve got. Correct |
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Post by chuckrocky on Apr 29, 2023 18:28:45 GMT
I’d love to hear his rationale for going with a back three against a side he knew would come and park the bus.
He could have no complaints if he was shown the door tomorrow and I don’t think there’s a supporter out there who would be at all bothered if that was the case.
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Post by roylandstoke on Apr 29, 2023 18:28:48 GMT
It’s hard to imagine how this season could have been much worse.
He must start next season well.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 29, 2023 18:30:49 GMT
I'm surprised that he seems to still get off scoff free and people still believe the "it's the players and everyone but me to blame" attitude. The 10 months prior to Alex Neil being appointed were diabolical. But somehow Alex Neil has managed to achieve less points in the 39 league games he's overseen compared to the 39 before. And if Watford win next week then the PPG from the 6 games before AN took over will be higher than the 40 games he's overseen this season. Standards have dropped significantly and it seems the managers still the last to be held accountable. Take a look at what a very bland Mowbray is doing at Sunderland. Today he played two centre midfielders at centre half and played a back four against Keinan Davis, and is on the verge of taking a side that has been without it's talisman for most of the season, and more recently most of it's centre halves into the play offs. Neil shits himself and plays a back 5 against Cardiff and QPR. Both managers are managing teams that 'arent theirs' but Mowbray didn't have the luxury of bringing in as many players as Neil did in January. He's massively, massively under performed. He certainly has underperformed but I really believe there is a culture problem from the previous regime and possibly players playing who have already been told to find another club. Now I’m not one to keep changing managers as in all walks of like it can take time to change a culture within a team and sometimes longer than you think. I have lots of personal experience in this field. Sometimes I’ve been able to change things in weeks and sometimes it’s been a year or more. I don’t think it’s a stretch to apply the same logic to a football team. So for me he gets 10-15 games next season then review it |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2023 18:31:17 GMT
I'm surprised that he seems to still get off scoff free and people still believe the "it's the players and everyone but me to blame" attitude. The 10 months prior to Alex Neil being appointed were diabolical. But somehow Alex Neil has managed to achieve less points in the 39 league games he's overseen compared to the 39 before. And if Watford win next week then the PPG from the 6 games before AN took over will be higher than the 40 games he's overseen this season. Standards have dropped significantly and it seems the managers still the last to be held accountable. Take a look at what a very bland Mowbray is doing at Sunderland. Today he played two centre midfielders at centre half and played a back four against Keinan Davis, and is on the verge of taking a side that has been without it's talisman for most of the season, and more recently most of it's centre halves into the play offs. Neil shits himself and plays a back 5 against Cardiff and QPR. Both managers are managing teams that 'arent theirs' but Mowbray didn't have the luxury of bringing in as many players as Neil did in January. He's massively, massively under performed. With the emphasis being on the word massively. |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Apr 29, 2023 18:34:28 GMT
With the poster above.
Wouldn’t care if he left.
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Post by theonlooker on Apr 29, 2023 18:35:21 GMT
Take a look at what a very bland Mowbray is doing at Sunderland. Today he played two centre midfielders at centre half and played a back four against Keinan Davis, and is on the verge of taking a side that has been without it's talisman for most of the season, and more recently most of it's centre halves into the play offs. Neil shits himself and plays a back 5 against Cardiff and QPR. Both managers are managing teams that 'arent theirs' but Mowbray didn't have the luxury of bringing in as many players as Neil did in January. He's massively, massively under performed. He certainly has underperformed but I really believe there is a culture problem from the previous regime and possibly players playing who have already been told to find another club. Now I’m not one to keep changing managers as in all walks of like it can take time to change a culture within a team and sometimes longer than you think. I have lots of personal experience in this field. Sometimes I’ve been able to change things in weeks and sometimes it’s been a year or more. I don’t think it’s a stretch to apply the same logic to a football team. So for me he gets 10-15 games next season then review it True but again we're going into a summer rebuild with a manager staring down the barrel of a gun aren't we? He's a bad summer away from playing for a pay off. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 29, 2023 18:40:39 GMT
He certainly has underperformed but I really believe there is a culture problem from the previous regime and possibly players playing who have already been told to find another club. Now I’m not one to keep changing managers as in all walks of like it can take time to change a culture within a team and sometimes longer than you think. I have lots of personal experience in this field. Sometimes I’ve been able to change things in weeks and sometimes it’s been a year or more. I don’t think it’s a stretch to apply the same logic to a football team. So for me he gets 10-15 games next season then review it True but again we're going into a summer rebuild with a manager staring down the barrel of a gun aren't we? He's a bad summer away from playing for a pay off. Yep |
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Post by wuzza on Apr 29, 2023 18:42:46 GMT
Talk of a ‘rebuild’ slightly under sells the problem.
It suggests there is something to build on , some basic framework or foundation that can be embellished.
In fact there is absolutely zilch - we’ve got nothing. It is a complete and utter new build Just can’t see it producing anything but another season of struggle.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Apr 29, 2023 18:47:45 GMT
All the players that played well in that purple patch (with the possible exception of Pearson) have turned to shit.
Today was shameful we wouldn’t have scored with 90 minutes of extra time.
First time I’ve booed in ages and even my booing was feeble as I couldn’t be arsed
I’ve tickets for Watford but probably won’t go
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Post by gawa on Apr 29, 2023 18:48:23 GMT
I'm surprised that he seems to still get off scoff free and people still believe the "it's the players and everyone but me to blame" attitude. The 10 months prior to Alex Neil being appointed were diabolical. But somehow Alex Neil has managed to achieve less points in the 39 league games he's overseen compared to the 39 before. And if Watford win next week then the PPG from the 6 games before AN took over will be higher than the 40 games he's overseen this season. Standards have dropped significantly and it seems the managers still the last to be held accountable. Take a look at what a very bland Mowbray is doing at Sunderland. Today he played two centre midfielders at centre half and played a back four against Keinan Davis, and is on the verge of taking a side that has been without it's talisman for most of the season, and more recently most of it's centre halves into the play offs. Neil shits himself and plays a back 5 against Cardiff and QPR. Both managers are managing teams that 'arent theirs' but Mowbray didn't have the luxury of bringing in as many players as Neil did in January. He's massively, massively under performed. A good manager makes players better. Which players have improved under Alex Neil? Morgan Fox maybe.. Compared to which players are worse. |
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Post by loosestools on Apr 29, 2023 18:49:16 GMT
In his interview with the great Nigel Johnson after the match he finally admitted that he can find no answer to teams who can sit back, let us huff and puff and hold possession for the first half, then come out in the second half and score with a rare chance and then sit back and waste time for the rest of the game. Something we fans have seen happening all season at home. Every home game is 'rinse and repeat' You could write a script before the game even starts as to what will happen! Yet it still does. Is this a form of madness? Will he ever learn?
Does he realise what this is doing towards a decrease in sean card fees and the attitude of the fan base?
Christmas time 2023 and if there is no improvement get rid.
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Post by questionable on Apr 29, 2023 18:51:10 GMT
He certainly has underperformed but I really believe there is a culture problem from the previous regime and possibly players playing who have already been told to find another club. Now I’m not one to keep changing managers as in all walks of like it can take time to change a culture within a team and sometimes longer than you think. I have lots of personal experience in this field. Sometimes I’ve been able to change things in weeks and sometimes it’s been a year or more. I don’t think it’s a stretch to apply the same logic to a football team. So for me he gets 10-15 games next season then review it True but again we're going into a summer rebuild with a manager staring down the barrel of a gun aren't we? He's a bad summer away from playing for a pay off. He’s going into a summer with nothing player wise and based on his games here I’d get rid now |
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