|
Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 15, 2023 20:54:18 GMT
That’s literally what he’s there for, to step in for the full back or even the centre back as and when required. You’ll be telling us Makele propped up Ashley Cole next…….. So often? And when he doesn’t it leads to the yellow card for Tuanzebe. Hoever’s positioning is dreadful. Well the more Hoever attacks the more Pearson will step in. If we played a completely defensive back four he would just need to mop up in front of the defence and nothing else..…..
|
|
|
Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 15, 2023 20:54:22 GMT
Pearson propping Hoever up good and proper! I'd call it 'supporting'.Isn't that what a "Defensive Midfielder" is in the team for? To that extent though? I don’t think it should be.
|
|
|
Post by stokefanone on Mar 15, 2023 20:55:10 GMT
Two of the best athletes in this league. With good coaching they both have massive potential. Personally I think Hoever is showing himself to be a class above. He could be regular starter in the premier league in a few years time. Hopefully for us!
|
|
|
Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 15, 2023 20:55:42 GMT
I'd call it 'supporting'.Isn't that what a "Defensive Midfielder" is in the team for? To that extent though? I don’t think it should be. Hoever could just stay in his own half of course if you’d prefer?
|
|
|
Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 15, 2023 20:59:40 GMT
To that extent though? I don’t think it should be. Hoever could just stay in his own half of course if you’d prefer? It’s not even when he’s up the pitch that his positioning is so bad.
|
|
|
Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 15, 2023 21:01:08 GMT
Pearson propping Hoever up good and proper! That’s literally what he’s there for, to step in for the full back or even the centre back as and when required. You’ll be telling us Makele propped up Ashley Cole next…….. Jesus, I didn’t expect even Bayern to dig a hole over this. Admitting you’re wrong is not a crime! In fact it’s a desirable trait
|
|
|
Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 15, 2023 21:12:02 GMT
That’s literally what he’s there for, to step in for the full back or even the centre back as and when required. You’ll be telling us Makele propped up Ashley Cole next…….. Jesus, I didn’t expect even Bayern to dig a hole over this. Admitting you’re wrong is not a crime! In fact it’s a desirable trait Wrong? It shows he’s not where he’s meant to be!!
|
|
|
Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 15, 2023 21:13:12 GMT
Jesus, I didn’t expect even Bayern to dig a hole over this. Admitting you’re wrong is not a crime! In fact it’s a desirable trait Wrong? It shows he’s not where he’s meant to be!! Enjoy it, it’s allowed
|
|
|
Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 15, 2023 21:15:42 GMT
Jesus, I didn’t expect even Bayern to dig a hole over this. Admitting you’re wrong is not a crime! In fact it’s a desirable trait Wrong? It shows he’s not where he’s meant to be!! So you want him staying in his own half and not attacking? It’s risk v reward which is exactly why Pearson is there. Thank fuck you’re not manager we’d have lost 1-0 last night and 2-1 on Friday…….
|
|
|
Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 15, 2023 21:16:24 GMT
Wrong? It shows he’s not where he’s meant to be!! Enjoy it, it’s allowed I can’t enjoy positioning like his. I just can’t.
|
|
|
Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 15, 2023 21:18:25 GMT
Wrong? It shows he’s not where he’s meant to be!! So you do want him staying in his own half and not attacking? It’s risk v reward which is exactly why Pearson is there. Thank fuck you’re not manager we’d have lost 1-0 last night and 2-1 on Friday……. No but there’s times and places and again it’s not really when he’s making big moves up front. He should have been hooked against Blackburn though, the only mistake AN made that game. Last night was more little mistakes like what led to the Tuanzebe booking. He was in our half but 5 yard too high.
|
|
|
Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 15, 2023 21:20:11 GMT
I can’t enjoy positioning like his. I just can’t. Come on mate is t it lovely to have a full back who gets up the pitch, scores goals and creates chances? Neil wants us to attack, is that not desirable? Yes he’ll make errors and be indisciplined from time to time but we’ve been crying out for positive, attacking football for years. Take the rough with the smooth. He’s been far better than I thought he’d be and that’s a real bonus. If he wasn’t playing we wouldn’t have half the threat going forward
|
|
|
Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 15, 2023 21:22:50 GMT
Wrong? It shows he’s not where he’s meant to be!! So you do want him staying in his own half and not attacking? It’s risk v reward which is exactly why Pearson is there. Thank fuck you’re not manager we’d have lost 1-0 last night and 2-1 on Friday……. Get your hands on an attacking FB and he wants to coach him to be more like Fox.
|
|
|
Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 15, 2023 21:25:13 GMT
I can’t enjoy positioning like his. I just can’t. Come on mate is t it lovely to have a full back who gets up the pitch, scores goals and creates chances? Neil wants us to attack, is that not desirable? Yes he’ll make errors and be indisciplined from time to time but we’ve been crying out for positive, attacking football for years. Take the rough with the smooth. He’s been far better than I thought he’d be and that’s a real bonus. If he wasn’t playing we wouldn’t have half the threat going forward According to him Sterling is immeasurably better. He's been involved in dozens of goals we scored.
|
|
|
Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 15, 2023 21:28:55 GMT
I can’t enjoy positioning like his. I just can’t. Come on mate is t it lovely to have a full back who gets up the pitch, scores goals and creates chances? Neil wants us to attack, is that not desirable? Yes he’ll make errors and be indisciplined from time to time but we’ve been crying out for positive, attacking football for years. Take the rough with the smooth. He’s been far better than I thought he’d be and that’s a real bonus. If he wasn’t playing we wouldn’t have half the threat going forward He’s had 2 games where he’s scored and other than that has been ok going forward and ok to poor overall. He’s been much better than expected but people are going way ott on 2 games and in 1 of them he should have been hooked. Cracking goals too, no denying that, all of them excellent finishes. Next season we need Sterling on the right and a proper left back. We do that, we are a better side.
|
|
|
Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 15, 2023 21:32:10 GMT
Come on mate is t it lovely to have a full back who gets up the pitch, scores goals and creates chances? Neil wants us to attack, is that not desirable? Yes he’ll make errors and be indisciplined from time to time but we’ve been crying out for positive, attacking football for years. Take the rough with the smooth. He’s been far better than I thought he’d be and that’s a real bonus. If he wasn’t playing we wouldn’t have half the threat going forward He’s had 2 games where he’s scored and other than that has been ok going forward and ok to poor overall. He’s been much better than expected but people are going way ott on 2 games and in 1 of them he should have been hooked. Cracking goals too, no denying that, all of them excellent finishes. Next season we need Sterling on the right and a proper left back. We do that, we are a better side. I get your point and you’ve been attempting to drill it in all week. MY point is we wouldn’t have got the results and performances over the last few games without Hoevers involvement. He’s been brilliant. And what’s more, he’s the only player I’ve seen in the last 5 years who’s capable of taking a throw in🤣
|
|
|
Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 15, 2023 21:32:12 GMT
Come on mate is t it lovely to have a full back who gets up the pitch, scores goals and creates chances? Neil wants us to attack, is that not desirable? Yes he’ll make errors and be indisciplined from time to time but we’ve been crying out for positive, attacking football for years. Take the rough with the smooth. He’s been far better than I thought he’d be and that’s a real bonus. If he wasn’t playing we wouldn’t have half the threat going forward He’s had 2 games where he’s scored and other than that has been ok going forward and ok to poor overall. He’s been much better than expected but people are going way ott on 2 games and in 1 of them he should have been hooked. Cracking goals too, no denying that, all of them excellent finishes. Next season we need Sterling on the right and a proper left back. We do that, we are a better side. So if we get two FB's that don't contribute a great deal offensively we'll be better?
|
|
|
Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 15, 2023 21:37:13 GMT
He’s had 2 games where he’s scored and other than that has been ok going forward and ok to poor overall. He’s been much better than expected but people are going way ott on 2 games and in 1 of them he should have been hooked. Cracking goals too, no denying that, all of them excellent finishes. Next season we need Sterling on the right and a proper left back. We do that, we are a better side. I get your point and you’ve been attempting to drill it in all week. MY point is we wouldn’t have got the results and performances over the last few games without Hoevers involvement. He’s been brilliant. And what’s more, he’s the only player I’ve seen in the last 5 years who’s capable of taking a throw in🤣 I don’t think we concede 2 against Blackburn if he was shifted from right back tbh!
|
|
|
Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 15, 2023 21:37:39 GMT
He’s had 2 games where he’s scored and other than that has been ok going forward and ok to poor overall. He’s been much better than expected but people are going way ott on 2 games and in 1 of them he should have been hooked. Cracking goals too, no denying that, all of them excellent finishes. Next season we need Sterling on the right and a proper left back. We do that, we are a better side. So if we get two FB's that don't contribute a great deal offensively we'll be better? Sterling is good going forward.
|
|
|
Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 15, 2023 21:40:56 GMT
He’s had 2 games where he’s scored and other than that has been ok going forward and ok to poor overall. He’s been much better than expected but people are going way ott on 2 games and in 1 of them he should have been hooked. Cracking goals too, no denying that, all of them excellent finishes. Next season we need Sterling on the right and a proper left back. We do that, we are a better side. I get your point and you’ve been attempting to drill it in all week. MY point is we wouldn’t have got the results and performances over the last few games without Hoevers involvement. He’s been brilliant. And what’s more, he’s the only player I’ve seen in the last 5 years who’s capable of taking a throw in🤣 It's like he can't accept the trade off. Hoever is a bit suspect defensively it's clear to see. He gets caught out of position and others have to cover or through his excellent athleticism he gets himself out of it. Occasionally it may be costly but the dividends are massive. Please god don't let some negative bastard get in his ear.
|
|
|
Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 15, 2023 21:41:25 GMT
I get your point and you’ve been attempting to drill it in all week. MY point is we wouldn’t have got the results and performances over the last few games without Hoevers involvement. He’s been brilliant. And what’s more, he’s the only player I’ve seen in the last 5 years who’s capable of taking a throw in🤣 I don’t think we concede 2 against Blackburn if he was shifted from right back tbh! Is there any positivity running through those veins of yours?
|
|
|
Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 15, 2023 21:41:54 GMT
So if we get two FB's that don't contribute a great deal offensively we'll be better? Sterling is good going forward. Any hard data to back that up?
|
|
|
Post by pushon on Mar 15, 2023 21:43:06 GMT
So if we get two FB's that don't contribute a great deal offensively we'll be better? Sterling is good going forward. This one's been done to death now Bayern..Time to move on👉
|
|
|
Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 15, 2023 21:44:38 GMT
Sterling is good going forward. This one's been done to death now Bayern..Time to move on👉 Oh no. I want an answer.
|
|
|
Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 15, 2023 21:44:51 GMT
I don’t think we concede 2 against Blackburn if he was shifted from right back tbh! Is there any positivity running through those veins of yours? Lots, the thought of Sterling and Campbell as our right hand side next season is bloody exciting!
|
|
|
Post by tqstokie on Mar 15, 2023 21:45:15 GMT
For me Hoever is quick and takes up good positions wide right which allows us to switch the play with that long diagonal. Sometimes its a trade off between attacking or sitting in a normal right back position. He is very quick and usually gets back to cover. A very good young player!
|
|
|
Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 15, 2023 21:46:49 GMT
Sterling is good going forward. This one's been done to death now Bayern..Time to move on👉 Sterling is a much better all round full back.
|
|
|
Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 15, 2023 21:48:31 GMT
For me Hoever is quick and takes up good positions wide right which allows us to switch the play with that long diagonal. Sometimes its a trade off between attacking or sitting in a normal right back position. He is very quick and usually gets back to cover. A very good young player! Exactly, he allows us to play an expansive style but Bayern would prefer it if he stayed in his box and was trained to be a better defender or even better, fucked off
|
|
|
Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 15, 2023 21:49:17 GMT
For me Hoever is quick and takes up good positions wide right which allows us to switch the play with that long diagonal. Sometimes its a trade off between attacking or sitting in a normal right back position. He is very quick and usually gets back to cover. A very good young player! Exactly, he allows us to play an expansive style but Bayern would prefer it if he stayed in his box and was trained to be a better defender or even better, fucked off I’d rather the better right back played right back.
|
|
|
Post by scfcno1fan on Mar 15, 2023 21:50:11 GMT
Come on Bayern. That’s the point of a DM, to cover those areas.
|
|