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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Mar 1, 2023 10:26:45 GMT
I wasn't impressed with Hoever even on the right. For every bit of brilliance he seems to have a couple of moments of madness where he doesn't look like a professional footballer. Only 4 games in though, so I'm not judging him yet. He definitely has the quality there.
Sterling I've been impressed with since he first played for us. It's a shame injury derailed his season so much.
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Post by djralphy2k9 on Mar 1, 2023 11:23:16 GMT
Hoever was atrocious first half. Complete refusal to use his left foot, I sympathise because if he can't use his left at all then he's been hung out to dry, but three times in a row he avoided using his left and gave the ball straight to the opposition. Then he had that error where he couldn't control the ball and it went out for a corner. I put this down to him being uncomfortable on the left hand side. Second half he was much improved but only when switched back to the right. I don't sympathise with any player who can't use his weaker foot, it's like a carpenter turning up at your house and saying "sorry I will have to screw everything together because I can't use my hammer" thousands of pounds they get paid and they can't use both feet FFS. Even me at my lowly level could use both feet, rant over, its just a massive bugbear for me. My lad is 5 years old, he is left footed but is now practising using his right foot as I told him that footballers should be able to use both. Shocking how some professionals can't use both getting paid silly amounts of money.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Mar 1, 2023 11:37:54 GMT
It didn't really stop Ryan Giggs. And as someone has said, Messi as well. Using your other foot at times is quite different than being right footed and asked to play at left back.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2023 12:37:08 GMT
I don't sympathise with any player who can't use his weaker foot, it's like a carpenter turning up at your house and saying "sorry I will have to screw everything together because I can't use my hammer" thousands of pounds they get paid and they can't use both feet FFS. Even me at my lowly level could use both feet, rant over, its just a massive bugbear for me. My lad is 5 years old, he is left footed but is now practising using his right foot as I told him that footballers should be able to use both. Shocking how some professionals can't use both getting paid silly amounts of money. It is, we saw when Arnie and shaq were here , that being two footed is a huge advantage. Arnie was actually right footed and shaq was actually left footed ,but both had worked so hard on their weaker foot that in effect, their weaker foot was better than most players good foot. Nothing stop any decent player , taking their lead and working on their weaknesses.
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Post by Maccasbarmyarmy on Mar 1, 2023 12:39:40 GMT
He’s never played for Chelsea bud My mistake mate. Thought he was on loan. Anyway, they were quite friendly Tbf they have 500 loans outgoing this season 😂😂 I noticed they were friendly aswel which was weird
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2023 12:43:45 GMT
If I had to pick one, I'd have Hoever, showed a bit of fire in him last night. Looked quick.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 1, 2023 23:47:16 GMT
Yeah it’s no excuse is it. These people have generally been playing footballer at the highest level (for their age) since they were 8 and they can only use one foot. It’s a load of old shite. Tbf, Messis right foot is only for standing on. 86 right footed career goals according to transfermarkt. Just for standing on indeed!
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 1, 2023 23:58:52 GMT
Sterling yes Hoever no.
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Post by nottsover60 on Mar 2, 2023 9:19:33 GMT
Playing against *literally* one of the best players in the country right now with a really smart goal. Smart goal yes, poor defending also yes. It's on of the basics of being a full back to not let the winger get between you and the centre half. To be fair to Sterling he was the right side of the Japanese winger (who I thought was excellent on the night)but was aware of the space and the fact that the winger had been cutting infield and consequently that split second hesitation saw him done for pace. Tuanzebe was too far over but to be fair was watching the centre forward, leaving a large gap for the pass for the winger to run onto. The problem was Thompson should have been sitting in that space to stop the through ball. Thompson had a good game and the way they saw a space and exploited it all night was excellent. They didn't rely on one man's speed and strength for breakaway like we are used to seeing in the Championship but by creating space through movement and all their players being able to pass quickly and accurately, well-timed runs and putting the right weight on those passes They were brilliant and to be only done once for a goal against that sort of Premier quality was a credit to Stoke. Remind me how many Brighton put past Middlesborough in the third round?
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Post by independent on Mar 2, 2023 17:55:15 GMT
It didn't really stop Ryan Giggs. And as someone has said, Messi as well. Using your other foot at times is quite different than being right footed and asked to play at left back. Denis Irwin didn't have a problem doing it.
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Post by lordb on Mar 2, 2023 18:01:30 GMT
It didn't really stop Ryan Giggs. And as someone has said, Messi as well. Using your other foot at times is quite different than being right footed and asked to play at left back. Denis Irwin didn't have a problem doing it. Most decent fullbacks can defend well both sides as the skill set and mentality is essentially the same Crossing is a different matter
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Post by independent on Mar 2, 2023 20:35:17 GMT
Denis Irwin didn't have a problem doing it. Or taking penalties.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Mar 2, 2023 21:02:45 GMT
Denis Irwin didn't have a problem doing it. Or taking penalties. There’s always one. Obviously I mean Irwin 😉
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Mar 2, 2023 21:23:29 GMT
Denis Irwin didn't have a problem doing it. Or taking penalties.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Mar 2, 2023 21:26:15 GMT
I think that Sterling has the potential to be one hell of a player.
He is athletic, strong and technically good. He has all of the raw materials, he just needs the right manager and coaches to provide direction.
Sterling is out of contract in the summer as well (I think?).
I am still not sure with Hoever. A little early to tell and he needs a run of games.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Mar 2, 2023 22:10:43 GMT
Tbf, Messis right foot is only for standing on. 86 right footed career goals according to transfermarkt. Just for standing on indeed! Crouch couldn't head a ball either but got the record in the premier League.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 4, 2023 18:21:50 GMT
Really like this pair. I knew Sterling was decent but have been pleasantly surprised by Hoever. Lots of pace and energy. Really hope we try to sign both of them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2023 18:25:07 GMT
Really like this pair. I knew Sterling was decent but have been pleasantly surprised by Hoever. Lots of pace and energy. Really hope we try to sign both of them. I just don’t see Wolves spending £9 million on a kid and letting him leave for less than that unless they go down. If he plays well until the end of the season, the best we can surely hope for is another loan?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 4, 2023 18:34:39 GMT
Really like this pair. I knew Sterling was decent but have been pleasantly surprised by Hoever. Lots of pace and energy. Really hope we try to sign both of them. I just don’t see Wolves spending £9 million on a kid and letting him leave for less than that unless they go down. If he plays well until the end of the season, the best we can surely hope for is another loan? Shame that. You can see why they paid big money though he’s got a bit to learn still.
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Post by karl on Mar 4, 2023 18:40:53 GMT
Sterling will be out of contract at the end of the season so maybe we will sign him. Maybe we can get Hoover back on loan with an option to buy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2023 19:02:33 GMT
Surely with everything that happened between hoever and wolves they'd jump on a few million transfer fee with add on ons.
Looks a superb player
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Post by thepottypotter on Mar 4, 2023 19:08:10 GMT
Another great game from both of them
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 4, 2023 19:09:41 GMT
Surely with everything that happened between hoever and wolves they'd jump on a few million transfer fee with add on ons. Looks a superb player Ive really liked the look of him from Day 1, even though he looked a bit rusty as you would expect. He's got vision, bit of pace and good technique, 3 things that we really needed injecting into the team, and he's settled quickly.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2023 19:09:43 GMT
Surely with everything that happened between hoever and wolves they'd jump on a few million transfer fee with add on ons. Looks a superb player When he came here, they described the Championship as the “best development league for the Premiership”, which I felt a bit insulting but a reasonable indicator that they thought they’d take him back.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2023 19:13:58 GMT
Surely with everything that happened between hoever and wolves they'd jump on a few million transfer fee with add on ons. Looks a superb player When he came here, they described the Championship as the “best development league for the Premiership”, which I felt a bit insulting but a reasonable indicator that they thought they’d take him back. Yes doesn't sound good
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 14, 2023 22:16:01 GMT
When was the last time we had a full back as good as Sterling?
I really hope we sign him. Absolutely class defender.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Mar 14, 2023 22:24:20 GMT
When was the last time we had a full back as good as Sterling? I really hope we sign him. Absolutely class defender. He’s good enough for the prem. Sadly I don’t think any of the loanees will return. Back to square one.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 14, 2023 22:26:04 GMT
When was the last time we had a full back as good as Sterling? I really hope we sign him. Absolutely class defender. He’s good enough for the prem. Sadly I don’t think any of the loanees will return. Back to square one. I think Pearson will. I really hope Sterling will. I’m struggling to see past that who will.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Mar 14, 2023 22:29:24 GMT
When was the last time we had a full back as good as Sterling? I really hope we sign him. Absolutely class defender. How quickly does he make up ground when running back? He probably needs to add more going forward to be next level but I’m pleased he’s showing what he can do. I wasn’t sure when he spent so long out injured. When Hoever played against Brighton I thought he looked wretched going forward and decent in defence, but that was obviously rubbish as he’s now a Championship Cafu who, to me, looks like he could easily play in the PL if he carries on like he is.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 14, 2023 22:31:31 GMT
When was the last time we had a full back as good as Sterling? I really hope we sign him. Absolutely class defender. How quickly does he make up ground when running back? He probably needs to add more going forward to be next level but I’m pleased he’s showing what he can do. I wasn’t sure when he spent so long out injured. When Hoever played against Brighton I thought he looked wretched going forward and decent in defence, but that was obviously rubbish as he’s now a Championship Cafu who, to me, looks like he could easily play in the PL if he carries on like he is. I’m still not convinced with Hoever defensively. Even tonight he was the one getting out of position and it led to stuff like Tuanzebe’s yellow. Ideally I’d want Sterling for right back and a new left back. Hoever’s a bloody good footballer though and would love it if we were in a place now where we could play him instead of Brown.
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