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Post by nottsover60 on Feb 28, 2023 23:27:09 GMT
Hoever was absolutely dreadful first half, he was excellent 2nd half. I’m still not buying the Sterling love in, poor for their goal and almost fell for the same trick second half….. He really held his own against an in form quality winger. Was slow once and he took advantage. Overall I thought he had a great game though. Bit harsh on him for the goal. He was done, sent the wrong way, by the winger and the pass was brilliant. That instance was a microcosm of the difference between the two teams, movement and accurate defence splitting passing, things we lack.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 28, 2023 23:34:57 GMT
He really held his own against an in form quality winger. Was slow once and he took advantage. Overall I thought he had a great game though. Bit harsh on him for the goal. He was done, sent the wrong way, by the winger and the pass was brilliant. That instance was a microcosm of the difference between the two teams, movement and accurate defence splitting passing, things we lack. It was an excellent precise goal from all 3 of their players involved wasnt it. Runs and passes timed to perfection. Bastards.
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Post by pottersrule on Feb 28, 2023 23:43:11 GMT
Impressed with both of them lately. If there's deals to be done in the summer I hope we try to make these permanent, i think both can improve a lot. That was a good performance, if we can find a good central striker, oh, and sign Pearson, we could be a good side. With Sterling being out of contact in the summer you would think we could sign him. Yeah Hoover looks decent also so if we can sign him also that's the right backs sorted it's always the left we are weakest on. Rumour is that Sterling wants too much money,so we'll see.
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Post by nottsover60 on Feb 28, 2023 23:43:26 GMT
Bit harsh on him for the goal. He was done, sent the wrong way, by the winger and the pass was brilliant. That instance was a microcosm of the difference between the two teams, movement and accurate defence splitting passing, things we lack. It was an excellent precise goal from all 3 of their players involved wasnt it. Runs and passes timed to perfection. Bastards. Yes the consolation for losing was that we lost to a goal of beauty. Brilliant play.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 28, 2023 23:45:53 GMT
Sterling was stretching his calf before he went off so I’d imagine he might be struggling for Sunderland
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Post by march4 on Feb 28, 2023 23:53:45 GMT
Sterling was stretching his calf before he went off so I’d imagine he might be struggling for Sunderland Hoever and Fox as full backs then.
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Post by bertieb on Mar 1, 2023 5:56:29 GMT
Hoever was atrocious first half. Complete refusal to use his left foot, I sympathise because if he can't use his left at all then he's been hung out to dry, but three times in a row he avoided using his left and gave the ball straight to the opposition. Then he had that error where he couldn't control the ball and it went out for a corner. I put this down to him being uncomfortable on the left hand side. Second half he was much improved but only when switched back to the right. I don't sympathise with any player who can't use his weaker foot, it's like a carpenter turning up at your house and saying "sorry I will have to screw everything together because I can't use my hammer" thousands of pounds they get paid and they can't use both feet FFS. Even me at my lowly level could use both feet, rant over, its just a massive bugbear for me.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 1, 2023 6:29:53 GMT
Hoever was atrocious first half. Complete refusal to use his left foot, I sympathise because if he can't use his left at all then he's been hung out to dry, but three times in a row he avoided using his left and gave the ball straight to the opposition. Then he had that error where he couldn't control the ball and it went out for a corner. I put this down to him being uncomfortable on the left hand side. Second half he was much improved but only when switched back to the right. I don't sympathise with any player who can't use his weaker foot, it's like a carpenter turning up at your house and saying "sorry I will have to screw everything together because I can't use my hammer" thousands of pounds they get paid and they can't use both feet FFS. Even me at my lowly level could use both feet, rant over, its just a massive bugbear for me. Yeah it’s no excuse is it. These people have generally been playing footballer at the highest level (for their age) since they were 8 and they can only use one foot. It’s a load of old shite.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 1, 2023 6:52:49 GMT
Hoever was woeful at left back which is fair. Was ok at right back. Sterling on the whole excellent but switched off once and was punished. I thought hoever looked OK at both left and right back, certainly better than tymon in a left back back four. His pace will get him out of the odd sticky spot too.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 1, 2023 6:55:28 GMT
Sterling was stretching his calf before he went off so I’d imagine he might be struggling for Sunderland Isn’t that standard for a Stoke player? We never seem to sign players who can consistently play 40 games a season.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 1, 2023 6:57:55 GMT
Sterling was stretching his calf before he went off so I’d imagine he might be struggling for Sunderland Isn’t that standard for a Stoke player? We never seem to sign players who can consistently play 40 games a season. The shit ones tend to
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Post by lordb on Mar 1, 2023 7:04:10 GMT
Sterling was stretching his calf before he went off so I’d imagine he might be struggling for Sunderland Hoever and Fox as full backs then. Tymon He wasn't great but Fox really has been appalling lately
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Post by lordb on Mar 1, 2023 7:05:50 GMT
I thought hoever looked OK at both left and right back, certainly better than tymon in a left back back four. His pace will get him out of the odd sticky spot too. I'm honestly amazed at the praise for Hoevre at left back, he had a shocker looked much better at RB
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Post by Northy on Mar 1, 2023 7:31:20 GMT
Surely they’re the same player. Sign one for right back and get a new left back in. So we only have one RB. What happens when Sterling gets injured again? It makes sense to sign them both along with an out and out lb so that we have cover for both fullbacks. Both Hoever and Sterling can do a job at LB when required. I'd prefer either of them over Tymon in a back four. Tom Edwards?
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Post by greenhoff on Mar 1, 2023 7:54:13 GMT
Hoever was woeful at left back which is fair. Was ok at right back. Sterling on the whole excellent but switched off once and was punished. I thought hoever looked OK at both left and right back, certainly better than tymon in a left back back four. Hoever was dreadful at left back. However played regularly could be a very good right back. He's neat and tidy and has pace. Definitely one to persevere with.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Mar 1, 2023 8:06:37 GMT
More likely than Sterling if Dujon wants too much money. My view is that one or the other wouldn’t be prepared to play second fiddle. Sign a left back and then Fox could be back up, or maybe McCarron comes good!
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Post by Veritas on Mar 1, 2023 8:07:45 GMT
I thought hoever looked OK at both left and right back, certainly better than tymon in a left back back four. Hoever was dreadful at left back. However played regularly could be a very good right back. He's neat and tidy and has pace. Definitely one to persevere with. He was better at right back but wasn't dreadful at all, which game were you watching?
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Post by st3mark on Mar 1, 2023 8:09:28 GMT
Hoever was atrocious first half. Complete refusal to use his left foot, I sympathise because if he can't use his left at all then he's been hung out to dry, but three times in a row he avoided using his left and gave the ball straight to the opposition. Then he had that error where he couldn't control the ball and it went out for a corner. I put this down to him being uncomfortable on the left hand side. Second half he was much improved but only when switched back to the right. I don't sympathise with any player who can't use his weaker foot, it's like a carpenter turning up at your house and saying "sorry I will have to screw everything together because I can't use my hammer" thousands of pounds they get paid and they can't use both feet FFS. Even me at my lowly level could use both feet, rant over, its just a massive bugbear for me. Professionals should be able to use both feet. However they simply cant these days. Anthony for united cost all that money and he will do anything to avoid using his left foot. At this level there will be many players who can't use one of their feet. If I was the manager, and I knew Hoever couldn't use his left foot at all then I wouldn't play him there. Especially when I'd got Tymon,fox,clucas and thompson who can play down the left side.
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Post by lordb on Mar 1, 2023 8:19:20 GMT
Hoever was dreadful at left back. However played regularly could be a very good right back. He's neat and tidy and has pace. Definitely one to persevere with. He was better at right back but wasn't dreadful at all, which game were you watching? First half he was out of position over and over He went in for tackles which he didn't win and his man kept going past him He looked very uncomfortable on the right he looked fine and used his pace to recover well still early days but not keen to see him on the left again
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 1, 2023 8:20:13 GMT
Hoever was dreadful at left back. However played regularly could be a very good right back. He's neat and tidy and has pace. Definitely one to persevere with. He was better at right back but wasn't dreadful at all, which game were you watching? 1st half he was all over the show. In the first 15 mins he gave the ball away 3 times and fell asleep at the back post and almost get punished when Bonham had to block a header. Positionally he was all over the place and all he did was check back on to his right foot and pass back to the keeper. He wasn’t helped at all by Tymon by the way who was also dreadful. Second half I don’t think Hoever put a foot wrong at right back…….
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Post by Roy Cropper on Mar 1, 2023 8:51:01 GMT
Hoever was absolutely dreadful first half, he was excellent 2nd half. I’m still not buying the Sterling love in, poor for their goal and almost fell for the same trick second half….. Playing against *literally* one of the best players in the country right now with a really smart goal.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 1, 2023 8:54:04 GMT
Hoever was absolutely dreadful first half, he was excellent 2nd half. I’m still not buying the Sterling love in, poor for their goal and almost fell for the same trick second half….. Playing against *literally* one of the best players in the country right now with a really smart goal. Smart goal yes, poor defending also yes. It's on of the basics of being a full back to not let the winger get between you and the centre half........
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Post by Veritas on Mar 1, 2023 8:54:24 GMT
He was better at right back but wasn't dreadful at all, which game were you watching? First half he was out of position over and over He went in for tackles which he didn't win and his man kept going past him He looked very uncomfortable on the right he looked fine and used his pace to recover well still early days but not keen to see him on the left again He did miss two tackles in the first half and on both occasions he tracked back and won the ball back.
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Post by Veritas on Mar 1, 2023 9:00:20 GMT
He was better at right back but wasn't dreadful at all, which game were you watching? 1st half he was all over the show. In the first 15 mins he gave the ball away 3 times and fell asleep at the back post and almost get punished when Bonham had to block a header. Positionally he was all over the place and all he did was check back on to his right foot and pass back to the keeper. He wasn’t helped at all by Tymon by the way who was also dreadful. Second half I don’t think Hoever put a foot wrong at right back……. Yes he did miss two tackles but on both occasions he chased back and won the ball back and yes he needed Bonham to dig him out but against a Premier League team that does not in my book equate to dreadful.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Mar 1, 2023 9:03:57 GMT
Sterling is growing on me and thought he coped well with Mitoma. Harsh to blame the goal on him, sometimes it just happens against better teams.
I think Hoever could be better at centre back, probably as part of a 3. He's not good enough with the ball, but his defending and pace really impressed in the second half yesterday.
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Post by gaznandi on Mar 1, 2023 9:12:05 GMT
I don't sympathise with any player who can't use his weaker foot, it's like a carpenter turning up at your house and saying "sorry I will have to screw everything together because I can't use my hammer" thousands of pounds they get paid and they can't use both feet FFS. Even me at my lowly level could use both feet, rant over, its just a massive bugbear for me. Yeah it’s no excuse is it. These people have generally been playing footballer at the highest level (for their age) since they were 8 and they can only use one foot. It’s a load of old shite. Tbf, Messis right foot is only for standing on.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Mar 1, 2023 9:30:26 GMT
Sterling is growing on me and thought he coped well with Mitoma. Harsh to blame the goal on him, sometimes it just happens against better teams. I think Hoever could be better at centre back, probably as part of a 3. He's not good enough with the ball, but his defending and pace really impressed in the second half yesterday. Do Sterling and Mitoma know each other from Chelsea as they kept patting each other after a tackle?
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Post by Maccasbarmyarmy on Mar 1, 2023 9:40:56 GMT
Sterling is growing on me and thought he coped well with Mitoma. Harsh to blame the goal on him, sometimes it just happens against better teams. I think Hoever could be better at centre back, probably as part of a 3. He's not good enough with the ball, but his defending and pace really impressed in the second half yesterday. Do Sterling and Mitoma know each other from Chelsea as they kept patting each other after a tackle? He’s never played for Chelsea bud
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Mar 1, 2023 9:58:44 GMT
Do Sterling and Mitoma know each other from Chelsea as they kept patting each other after a tackle? He’s never played for Chelsea bud My mistake mate. Thought he was on loan. Anyway, they were quite friendly
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Post by skip on Mar 1, 2023 10:16:35 GMT
Playing against *literally* one of the best players in the country right now with a really smart goal. Smart goal yes, poor defending also yes. It's on of the basics of being a full back to not let the winger get between you and the centre half........ Mitoma is on fire right and has rinsed plenty of better players than Sterling doing exactly that.
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