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Post by milky on Mar 11, 2023 8:08:10 GMT
Thought he was more than adequate last night .
Could have challenged Gallagher better for their 2nd ( which Bonham should have saved anyway) otherwise I thought he was fine.
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Post by Northy on Mar 11, 2023 8:31:44 GMT
Thought he was more than adequate last night . Could have challenged Gallagher better for their 2nd ( which Bonham should have saved anyway) otherwise I thought he was fine. Looked like he had lead in his boots on that challenge. |
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Post by Biblical on Mar 11, 2023 8:36:00 GMT
I’ve gone from wanting him gone ASAP to not being bothered if he gets another contract.
He’s average but his versatility might be enough for Neil want to keep him around as a squad player.
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Post by gingerninja on Mar 11, 2023 8:38:31 GMT
I thought by & large he was excellent last night. Considering the CB pairing was a new one and hadn't played together before, was quite impressive.
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Post by robwahlmann on Mar 11, 2023 8:40:51 GMT
I'd certainly keep him as back up for left back and central defence! I'd rather see us sell Tymon as he doesn't fit in with a system where we play 4 at the back. Hopefully we can keep Sterling or Hoever too!
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Post by wearepremierleague on Mar 11, 2023 8:43:46 GMT
He’s so much better as a centre back in a 4 than a left centre back in a 3.
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Post by roylandstoke on Mar 11, 2023 9:16:15 GMT
He had another decent game last night.
I think he’s been one of the most consistent players all year,
I was impressed by his passion towards the end when he gave Smallpiece and Brown a bollocking for going towards goal and loosing the ball instead of taking it to the corner.
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Post by bertiestan on Mar 11, 2023 9:53:00 GMT
Thought he was more than adequate last night . Could have challenged Gallagher better for their 2nd ( which Bonham should have saved anyway) otherwise I thought he was fine. Looked like he had lead in his boots on that challenge. They were my exact words, literally couldn't get off the ground. |
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Post by march4 on Mar 11, 2023 10:01:16 GMT
Yet another player who has improved under AN’s leadership.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2023 10:16:16 GMT
I've never understood the criticism of Fox. I think he's a very dependable defender and rarely lets us down.
If we want to kick on he shouldn't be a regular starter but he's definitely a good squad player who can cover a couple of positions.
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 11, 2023 10:26:43 GMT
He was very good until he came under pressure in the last 10 minutes, then he really struggled.
Without Pearson, Thompson especially, allowed our CB to be exposed to pressure that was not there in the first 80 mins and then he struggled a bit.
His distribution was so much better, but this happens when players like Fox play with other much better players
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2023 12:33:21 GMT
He was very good until he came under pressure in the last 10 minutes, then he really struggled. Without Pearson, Thompson especially, allowed our CB to be exposed to pressure that was not there in the first 80 mins and then he struggled a bit. His distribution was so much better, but this happens when players like Fox play with other much better players Often, he was able to just simply pass a ball to one of three midfielders who came to collect. Shocking that players who aren’t good on the ball can do better when the midfield open themselves up for the pass 😂 We need to keep him, he’s a great squad player who seems to have overcome his injuries. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 11, 2023 12:45:10 GMT
Overall I like Fox but he will be on biggish wages and we can do better.
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Post by robwahlmann on Mar 11, 2023 12:49:05 GMT
Overall I like Fox but he will be on biggish wages and we can do better. His contract is up in the summer so it depends what the new offer will be. I'm not sure Fox will get a better contract elsewhere even on reduced terms from Stoke.  |
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Post by scfcwebby on Mar 11, 2023 12:59:56 GMT
If he doesn't get a new contract here, the best offer he will get is a league 1 / championship relegation fighting team, which is exactly where his ability should be.
If we want to move forward and seriously challenge at the top then him, Brown and Bonham need to be moved on this summer
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 11, 2023 13:10:26 GMT
He was very good until he came under pressure in the last 10 minutes, then he really struggled. Without Pearson, Thompson especially, allowed our CB to be exposed to pressure that was not there in the first 80 mins and then he struggled a bit. His distribution was so much better, but this happens when players like Fox play with other much better players Often, he was able to just simply pass a ball to one of three midfielders who came to collect. Shocking that players who aren’t good on the ball can do better when the midfield open themselves up for the pass 😂 We need to keep him, he’s a great squad player who seems to have overcome his injuries. Or shocking that a very experienced professional footballer can't make better use of the ball. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2023 14:17:34 GMT
Often, he was able to just simply pass a ball to one of three midfielders who came to collect. Shocking that players who aren’t good on the ball can do better when the midfield open themselves up for the pass 😂 We need to keep him, he’s a great squad player who seems to have overcome his injuries. Or shocking that a very experienced professional footballer can't make better use of the ball. Different players have different skills. How hard is that to grasp? |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 11, 2023 14:36:11 GMT
Or shocking that a very experienced professional footballer can't make better use of the ball. Different players have different skills. How hard is that to grasp? Pretty difficult that some of them are so useless at you know playing football. Particularly ones like Fox who don't seem to have any compensating attributes. He's not actually that great at any aspect of the game. He's just about adequate defensively, given years of practice and coaching I'd expect something better for a few thousand a week. |
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Mar 11, 2023 14:40:49 GMT
Fox is an average Championship defender, nothing great, not an exceptional left back but better than Tymon, not a wing back but I hope the wing back system has been thrown on the scrap heap anyway, and adequate cover in the centre of defence. Worth keeping hold of IMO Gouranga.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2023 14:45:06 GMT
Different players have different skills. How hard is that to grasp? Pretty difficult that some of them are so useless at you know playing football. Particularly ones like Fox who don't seem to have any compensating attributes. He's not actually that great at any aspect of the game. He's just about adequate defensively, given years of practice and coaching I'd expect something better for a few thousand a week. So, your issue is that footballers earn too much money? You should probably get over that, it’s not going anywhere. |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 11, 2023 14:54:52 GMT
Pretty difficult that some of them are so useless at you know playing football. Particularly ones like Fox who don't seem to have any compensating attributes. He's not actually that great at any aspect of the game. He's just about adequate defensively, given years of practice and coaching I'd expect something better for a few thousand a week. So, your issue is that footballers earn too much money? You should probably get over that, it’s not going anywhere. No it's that to anything like justify the money they ought to be an awful lot better at what they do. We have a few players who struggle with controlling the ball and direction and weight of passing and folk make excuses for them because they make the odd block or header or run about a lot. Brown is the same unbelievably bad at basic football skills. |
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 11, 2023 14:56:06 GMT
He played quite a few really good passes in the first half last night 🙂
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2023 15:02:11 GMT
So, your issue is that footballers earn too much money? You should probably get over that, it’s not going anywhere. No it's that to anything like justify the money they ought to be an awful lot better at what they do. We have a few players who struggle with controlling the ball and direction and weight of passing and folk make excuses for them because they make the odd block or header or run about a lot. Brown is the same unbelievably bad at basic football skills. Yet he’s an effective footballer that scored 14 last season. Goals that kept us up. You need defenders whose first instinct is to get in front of a ball just as much as you need those who want to get up a pitch. Defenders who have both work in the Premier League and earn (at least) 10x more. A good example is Tuanzebe. Not exactly Zidane on the ball but better at both defending and passing than Fox. Oh, and he’s on £50k a week. |
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Mar 11, 2023 15:07:59 GMT
Fox shouldn’t be starting but is more than ample cover.
We’ve had ten times worse than Fox down here in the last decade.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Mar 11, 2023 15:18:00 GMT
Absolute Rolls Royce of a player. Paolo Morgdini.
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Post by blackpoolred on Mar 11, 2023 19:29:23 GMT
Doing a good job for us at the moment and is underrated by most - not sure about him as a central defender though in a back four. Shocking that we can't find 2 natural central defenders when we have just come out of window - the second goal would not have happened if we had a proper central defender in that position and could have cost us - and probably will in the coming weeks against the better teams
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 11, 2023 19:30:32 GMT
If he's cheap enough I don't have an issue with him being on the bench.
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Post by kjpt140v on Mar 11, 2023 21:06:17 GMT
Looks confident at centre-back, did well at Sunderland and against Bla kburn.
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Post by kjpt140v on Mar 11, 2023 21:07:46 GMT
Am I seriously reading that we, as fans of Stoke City,think that this absolute pile of horse shit is a decent football player ,and indeed, may be a candidate for player of the season....???? Along with Thick Ben,Fat Jags and Brown,Fox shouldnt be anywhere near a starting 11.....I know there aren't any alternatives for Jags til Taylor is fit, but to see him waddling around, bereft of pace and and short of breath is, quite frankly,fucking embarrassing. Yes absolutely, this shows how far we have fallen in recent seasons. You sound like a knowledgeable person. |
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Post by staffordstokiemad1 on Mar 11, 2023 21:14:37 GMT
Have to give him credit, he has done well in the last few games.
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