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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2023 17:09:09 GMT
The end is nigh.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 7, 2023 17:13:59 GMT
Britains number one has just lost to a 56 year old former world middleweight champion. And Greeceās number one has just turned over a miserable jockš
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2023 17:19:50 GMT
Incredibly gutting. If they'd had time to play the 4th set last night I'm convinced Murray would've won, and then there was a realistic route to the 1/4s.
Not beyond the realms that was Murray's last match at Wimbledon. He's only one injury away from retirement at this point.
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Post by PotterLog on Jul 7, 2023 17:28:21 GMT
No idea why Murray didn't challenge then. Hope that doesn't come back to haunt him. Would've been in a great position to break in that game if he'd challenged that point and would only have been two service games away from the win.. ah well.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2023 17:30:12 GMT
No idea why Murray didn't challenge then. Hope that doesn't come back to haunt him. Would've been in a great position to break in that game if he'd challenged that point and would only have been two service games away from the win.. ah well. It was 4-4 when that happened IIRC.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 7, 2023 17:32:57 GMT
Time to call it a day now.
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Post by PotterLog on Jul 7, 2023 17:36:31 GMT
Would've been in a great position to break in that game if he'd challenged that point and would only have been two service games away from the win.. ah well. It was 4-4 when that happened IIRC. Could've been serving for the match then. Couldn't remember if it was 3-3 or 4-4.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 7, 2023 17:38:03 GMT
Time to call it a day now. Agreed, and as for Murray, maybe he should too
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 7, 2023 17:40:27 GMT
Time to call it a day now. Agreed, and as for Murray, maybe he should too ![](https://media.tenor.com/hg1Qcc3LsAoAAAAM/jeffrey-patrick-stewart.gif)
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 7, 2023 17:41:26 GMT
Agreed, and as for Murray, maybe he should too ![](https://media.tenor.com/hg1Qcc3LsAoAAAAM/jeffrey-patrick-stewart.gif) Yes thatās better, a modicum of humouršš»
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 7, 2023 17:42:58 GMT
Yes thatās better, a modicum of humouršš» You'll get there eventually
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jul 7, 2023 17:52:09 GMT
Itās really hard to watch when he shouts at the box, real cringe. Just donāt Andy.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2023 17:55:38 GMT
Time to call it a day now. I think he deserves one more crack at the US swing at least. He was asked recently about retirement and said he had a date in mind. It's not beyond the realms he's decided not to retire at Wimbledon to avoid the fanfare, and has knowingly just played his last match there.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 7, 2023 18:02:01 GMT
Time to call it a day now. I think he deserves one more crack at the US swing at least. He was asked recently about retirement and said he had a date in mind. It's not beyond the realms he's decided not to retire at Wimbledon to avoid the fanfare, and has knowingly just played his last match there. Fair point. US is his favourite tournament I think. Or was until he won Wimbledon twice. However, the third round seems about as far as he can reasonably expect to go these days, I'd say. Not really sure why someone of Murray's ability and record carries on with that being the case. If he's still enjoying himself, fair enough, but I can't say I would be, playing and failing against players he'd have fairly comfortably have got past just a few years back.
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Post by PotterLog on Jul 7, 2023 18:23:48 GMT
I think he deserves one more crack at the US swing at least. He was asked recently about retirement and said he had a date in mind. It's not beyond the realms he's decided not to retire at Wimbledon to avoid the fanfare, and has knowingly just played his last match there. Fair point. US is his favourite tournament I think. Or was until he won Wimbledon twice. However, the third round seems about as far as he can reasonably expect to go these days, I'd say. Not really sure why someone of Murray's ability and record carries on with that being the case. If he's still enjoying himself, fair enough, but I can't say I would be, playing and failing against players he'd have fairly comfortably have got past just a few years back. Just an obsessive winning mentality isn't it, those types of people have very different mindsets from your average mortal and I guess find it very hard to stop demanding more from themselves. You can see how much winning just those little challenger tournaments he won recently means to Murray even now. Fair play to him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2023 18:47:35 GMT
I think he deserves one more crack at the US swing at least. He was asked recently about retirement and said he had a date in mind. It's not beyond the realms he's decided not to retire at Wimbledon to avoid the fanfare, and has knowingly just played his last match there. Fair point. US is his favourite tournament I think. Or was until he won Wimbledon twice. However, the third round seems about as far as he can reasonably expect to go these days, I'd say. Not really sure why someone of Murray's ability and record carries on with that being the case. If he's still enjoying himself, fair enough, but I can't say I would be, playing and failing against players he'd have fairly comfortably have got past just a few years back. Before the US Open there are a bunch of buildup tournaments including 2x Masters 1k; The Canadian Open and Cincinnati. Murray obv won his first slam at the US Open but he also won 5 of his 14 masters 1ks in those tournaments too. 3x Canadian Opens and 2x Cincinnati. He's quite popular with north american crowds too. The more I think about it the more I think there's a chance he is going to retire at the US Open this year. They'd make a bit of a fuss but it would be nothing like the pressure of having to finish at Wimbledon. Of course he's a stubborn bastard so maybe I'm way off with this and he's thinking much further away, if his body allows. As much as I love the bloke I actually don't think his playstyle is at all suited to this post-injury phase of his career when his movement is so limited compared to his prime. Wawrinka for example has always been an aggressive, risk-taking guy who can produce winners no matter what. That's something that always gives you a shot; you have the ability to catch lightning in a bottle on any given day. Murray still plays way too cautiously as if he's 25 and can just run down and defend would-be winners. If I was his coach I think I'd be telling him to take more risks with half chances, although that's nothing new. Part of the reason he won those slams was because Lendl pushed him to be more aggressive vs the big 3.
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Post by knype on Jul 7, 2023 19:17:53 GMT
Fantastic !
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 7, 2023 19:22:47 GMT
The interest in Tennis nosedives from this moment on
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Post by knype on Jul 7, 2023 19:24:46 GMT
The interest in Tennis nosedives from this moment on The most uninspiring, bland , boring twat of a tennis player.
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Post by noustie on Jul 7, 2023 20:41:48 GMT
Love how excited and smug Henman gets when Murray is losing despite Murray having two titles at Wimbledon whereas that posh twat has a hill, a locker and unlimited towels Personally, I hope Henman is wearing his Greek Euro 2004 shirt with Zagorakis 7 on the back for the post match analysis. To be honest I'm just glad after almost 20 years I can now stop pretending I give a shit about tennis š In fairness he has to be up there in the conversation for best British sportsperson in my lifetime.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jul 7, 2023 21:04:36 GMT
Personally, I hope Henman is wearing his Greek Euro 2004 shirt with Zagorakis 7 on the back for the post match analysis. To be honest I'm just glad after almost 20 years I can now stop pretending I give a shit about tennis š In fairness he has to be up there in the conversation for best British sportsperson in my lifetime. I would agree, he's in the Wiggins/McIlroy bracket for sure. I'll defend to the death that the best British sportsperson in my lifetime is/was Sir Ben Ainslie - but I'll be in a very small minority.
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Post by dave1 on Jul 7, 2023 21:07:18 GMT
The interest in Tennis nosedives from this moment on The most uninspiring, bland , boring twat of a tennis player. Couldn't agree more. Can't stand the prick. Glad he's out. Not a patch on the greatest ever, not even near the greatest of his generation
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Post by noustie on Jul 7, 2023 21:26:48 GMT
The atmosphere when he won the Olympics was wild - Wimbledon filled with the proles:
If he was hitting his peak now he'd be hoovering up titles.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2023 21:34:33 GMT
To be honest I'm just glad after almost 20 years I can now stop pretending I give a shit about tennis š In fairness he has to be up there in the conversation for best British sportsperson in my lifetime. I would agree, he's in the Wiggins/McIlroy bracket for sure. I'll defend to the death that the best British sportsperson in my lifetime is/was Sir Ben Ainslie - but I'll be in a very small minority. Slight coincidence - Iāll defend to the death that the best British person (in any field) in my lifetime is Ainsley Harriott.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jul 7, 2023 22:02:40 GMT
I would agree, he's in the Wiggins/McIlroy bracket for sure. I'll defend to the death that the best British sportsperson in my lifetime is/was Sir Ben Ainslie - but I'll be in a very small minority. Slight coincidence - Iāll defend to the death that the best British person (in any field) in my lifetime is Ainsley Harriott. Were you a green pepper or red tomato?
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jul 8, 2023 0:34:50 GMT
Fair point. US is his favourite tournament I think. Or was until he won Wimbledon twice. However, the third round seems about as far as he can reasonably expect to go these days, I'd say. Not really sure why someone of Murray's ability and record carries on with that being the case. If he's still enjoying himself, fair enough, but I can't say I would be, playing and failing against players he'd have fairly comfortably have got past just a few years back. Just an obsessive winning mentality isn't it, those types of people have very different mindsets from your average mortal and I guess find it very hard to stop demanding more from themselves. You can see how much winning just those little challenger tournaments he won recently means to Murray even now. Fair play to him. If he's enjoying it why not. I just think he enjoys the lockeroom environment, he seems popular amongst other players and if he retired he may have to see more of his mum! š¬š He's still playing in the top league but is more than competitive in the lower league (challenger). To say he wasn't the best of his era doesn't mean that he is the best we've ever produced. Considering his competition he's done outstandingly well to win any Grand Slam! The fact he's still doing it shows how good he really was.
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Post by PotterLog on Jul 8, 2023 1:17:20 GMT
Just an obsessive winning mentality isn't it, those types of people have very different mindsets from your average mortal and I guess find it very hard to stop demanding more from themselves. You can see how much winning just those little challenger tournaments he won recently means to Murray even now. Fair play to him. If he's enjoying it why not. I just think he enjoys the lockeroom environment, he seems popular amongst other players and if he retired he may have to see more of his mum! š¬š He's still playing in the top league but is more than competitive in the lower league (challenger). To say he wasn't the best of his era doesn't mean that he is the best we've ever produced. Considering his competition he's done outstandingly well to win any Grand Slam! The fact he's still doing it shows how good he really was. Heās undoubtedly one of the best of his era anyway, and to be up there when youāve got probably the three most exceptional players ever to play the game as rivals is quite remarkable. The relative paucity of slams meant he could never quite sustain being part of a big four for any length of time, but it was the big three, then Murray, then the rest (a long way behind) for at least decade. Incredible sporter
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Post by str8outtahampton on Jul 8, 2023 6:27:32 GMT
I would agree, he's in the Wiggins/McIlroy bracket for sure. I'll defend to the death that the best British sportsperson in my lifetime is/was Sir Ben Ainslie - but I'll be in a very small minority. Slight coincidence - Iāll defend to the death that the best British person (in any field) in my lifetime is Ainsley Harriott. Double coincidence. Because I would say the same about Baroness Floella Benjamin.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jul 8, 2023 10:52:11 GMT
I have a lot of time for Andy Murray. Heās just a sportsman through and through, he doesnāt sugar coat anything for the media or anyone else. He clearly lives for tennis. Would have been easy to retire in 2019, nobody would have criticised that. But on he went.
He has the perfect answer to his critics. He won Wimbledon. And then, when his critics said he had an āeasy drawā (!), he had another perfect answerā¦he won it again!
I watched both wins, live, they were among the great sporting moments in British history.
Oh and he won the Gold at the London Olympics as well, of course.
A true champion in my books. Always will be.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2023 11:19:16 GMT
Oh and he won the Gold at the London Olympics as well, of course. A true champion in my books. Always will be. And defended it in Rio 2016 vs Del Potro, against a partisan Argentinian crowd.
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