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Post by chell_rosey on Jan 3, 2023 14:26:13 GMT
I don't want them gone. I do want them to wake the fuck up though and realise rolling the dice every 2 to 3 years and hoping you chuck a 6 isn't working . I doubt there are many clubs ,even at league 2 level are still being run like Stoke City FC . Christ, even them up the road have embraced a modern day structure and the owner had the nous to bring in football people because she knew she was out of her depth in that respect. This...
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 3, 2023 14:44:51 GMT
Although unlikely, we need Denise Coates running Stoke City, not her half wit baby man brother.
She would surely get in the right people to run the Commercial, Operating and most importantly the Football side, all answering to her. She takes no shit and is a proven winner.
Having John Coates making football decisions is an oven ready recipe for disaster.
Only Stoke City can have one of the richest family ownerships in football yet the wrong family member running it.
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Post by J-Roar on Jan 3, 2023 14:49:13 GMT
Although unlikely, we need Denise Coates running Stoke City, not her half wit baby man brother. She would surely get in the right people to run the Commercial, Operating and most importantly the Football side, all answering to her. She takes no shit and is a proven winner. Having John Coates making football decisions is an oven ready recipe for disaster. Only Stoke City can have one of the richest family ownerships in football yet the wrong family member running it. You can forget that. Why take your eye off a business that turns over billions for one that turns over a big Tesco's? They need to find someone with some nous and pay them to run the show. Obviously tried that with Scholes but let him get too comfortable
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Post by hoppo96 on Jan 3, 2023 14:50:15 GMT
They have no idea how to run a football club in the modern age. Appointing a (nother) british manager and maybe hope he has a good transfer window. That's not a good plan.
The club is a rudderless mess, and it's criminal given the resources we have. Compare us to down the road, billionnaires vs near administration and potentially a league fixture next season.
They are either a) stubborn and pig-headed or b) not in the mood to care. If it's a) then we will never change and if it's b) people should stop idolising them.
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 3, 2023 14:50:30 GMT
Although unlikely, we need Denise Coates running Stoke City, not her half wit baby man brother. She would surely get in the right people to run the Commercial, Operating and most importantly the Football side, all answering to her. She takes no shit and is a proven winner. Having John Coates making football decisions is an oven ready recipe for disaster. Only Stoke City can have one of the richest family ownerships in football yet the wrong family member running it. You can forget that. Why take your eye off a business that turns over billions for one that turns over a big Tesco's? They need to find someone with some nous and pay them to run the show. Obviously tried that with Scholes but let him get too comfortable I think I said that, bar from he who should not be named ???
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Post by philb on Jan 3, 2023 14:51:22 GMT
Although unlikely, we need Denise Coates running Stoke City, not her half wit baby man brother. She would surely get in the right people to run the Commercial, Operating and most importantly the Football side, all answering to her. She takes no shit and is a proven winner. Having John Coates making football decisions is an oven ready recipe for disaster. Only Stoke City can have one of the richest family ownerships in football yet the wrong family member running it. Apparently she has very little interest in Stoke doesn’t she? It’s always been Peter and John with the football interest as far as I’m aware.
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Post by thevoid on Jan 3, 2023 14:54:53 GMT
It's a good question... They took over when Mick Mills was in charge, then appointed the following (I've ignored caretakers with hardly any games in charge): 1989-91 Alan Ball (auspicious start, wasn't it!) - P 62, win percentage 27.4% 1991-91 (caretaker) Graham Paddon - P18, 33.3% 1991-93 Lou Macari - P138, 50% 1993-94 Joe Jordan - P40, 32.5% 1994-97 Lou Macari - P151, 36.4% 1997-98 Chic Bates - P33, 33.3% Coates resigned as chairman in Nov 1998, but remained on the board. Resumed ownership in 2006. 2006-13 Tony Pulis - P333, 36.6% 2013-18 Mark Hughes - P200, 35.5% 2018-18 Paul Lambert - P15, 13.3% 2018-19 Gary Rowett - P29, 31.0% 2019-19 Nathan Jones - P38, 15.8% 2019-22 Michael O'Neill - P143, 38.4% 2022-23 Alex Neil - P13, 30.8% You have to bear in mind that win percentages will often reflect the strength of the division Stoke find themselves in. Pulis and Hughes deserve to be regarded as just as successful as Lou Macari when that is taken into account. One thing stands out though - the lack of any foreign managers at all. It's a real blind spot. It does make me think that the owners are somewhat stuck in the past when it comes to managerial appointments. New ownership and a completely new recruitment policy across the entire club please. Michael O'Neill's win record over those amount of games, against a backdrop of a complete strip and rebuild for FFP is actually really impressive, especially taking into account the complete shit show he inherited also. Neil's win rate compared to Master Bates is also very worrying. So, managerial appointments under the Coates Family which I've graded as Good, Average and Poor. I'm not including caretakers as they were in situ by default, and I'll class Lou's two spells as one appointment. Alan Ball - POOR Lou Macari - GOOD (Both spells) Joe Jordan - AVERAGE Chic Bates - POOR Chris Kamara - POOR Brian Little - POOR Gary Megson - AVERAGE Tony Pulis (Reappointment) - GOOD Mark Hughes - GOOD* Paul Lambert - POOR Gary Rowett - AVERAGE Nathan Jones - POOR Michael O'Neill - AVERAGE** Alex Neil - AVERAGE*** *I'm classing Hughes as a good appointment because by and large his reign was enjoyable- better football, Shaq/Bojan/Arnie, big scalps, Cup semi. **If MON had kept up the momentum of his first half season I'd have ranked him higher but it fizzled out and became tedious to watch ***Difficult to make a proper judgement on Neil at the moment. Results are similar to Rowett's, a good window could see things improve but a poor one could see a relegation battle and his standing to be Poor So that's 14 permanent appointments with three good and six poor (twice as many poor appointments). You could argue the Icelanders had a better strike rate, with none of their foreign appointments being poor (Boskamp did reasonably well given his lack of experience in England and the circumstances when he took over of a threadbare squad) Gudjon Thordarson - GOOD Steve Cotterill - AVERAGE Tony Pulis (1st Appointment) - GOOD Johann Boskamp - AVERAGE
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 3, 2023 14:57:17 GMT
Although unlikely, we need Denise Coates running Stoke City, not her half wit baby man brother. She would surely get in the right people to run the Commercial, Operating and most importantly the Football side, all answering to her. She takes no shit and is a proven winner. Having John Coates making football decisions is an oven ready recipe for disaster. Only Stoke City can have one of the richest family ownerships in football yet the wrong family member running it. Apparently she has very little interest in Stoke doesn’t she? It’s always been Peter and John with the football interest as far as I’m aware. I'm sure that is true but I doubt the Qataris etc have a great deal of interest. It's a business and she's a phenomenal business person.
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Post by Gods on Jan 3, 2023 15:02:06 GMT
Michael O'Neill's win record over those amount of games, against a backdrop of a complete strip and rebuild for FFP is actually really impressive, especially taking into account the complete shit show he inherited also. Neil's win rate compared to Master Bates is also very worrying. So, managerial appointments under the Coates Family which I've graded as Good, Average and Poor. I'm not including caretakers as they were in situ by default, and I'll class Lou's two spells as one appointment. Alan Ball - POOR Lou Macari - GOOD (Both spells) Joe Jordan - AVERAGE Chic Bates - POOR Tony Pulis - GOOD Mark Hughes - GOOD* Paul Lambert - POOR Gary Rowett - AVERAGE Nathan Jones - POOR Michael O'Neill - AVERAGE** Alex Neil - AVERAGE*** *I'm classing Hughes as a good appointment because by and large his reign was enjoyable- better football, Shaq/Bojan/Arnie, big scalps, Cup semi. **If MON had kept up the momentum of his first half season I'd have ranked him higher but it fizzled out and became tedious to watch ***Difficult to make a proper judgement on Neil at the moment. Results are similar to Rowett's, a good window could see things improve but a poor one could see a relegation battle and his standing to be Poor I make that 3 English men, 4 Scots men, 3 Welsh men and 1 Irish man. The Welsh have it with 2 good and a poor. The English worst with 2 poor and an average. Scots and Irish somewhere in between.
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Post by cheadlestokie on Jan 3, 2023 15:05:29 GMT
The Managers who we had some great times under were Macari, Pulis and Hughes
Macari should have stayed longer but it was his fault he didn't do so.
Pulis had reached his sell by date when he was sacked. He had simply lost the balance of his squad again mainly because he stopped bringing in the right players and under pressure reverted to the awfully boring tactics.
Hughes simply seemed to lose interest and replaced his senior players very poorly.
Before Alan Ball it was Mick Mills who gave us some good times but again some really poor ones as well. It is easy to forget he was manager I think for five years.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 3, 2023 15:13:20 GMT
Do the Isle of Mann, Jersey & Gurnsey count has home grown?
We ain't tried there yet.
The latter 2 are closer to the rest of Europe mind.😋
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Post by thevoid on Jan 3, 2023 15:54:46 GMT
So, managerial appointments under the Coates Family which I've graded as Good, Average and Poor. I'm not including caretakers as they were in situ by default, and I'll class Lou's two spells as one appointment. Alan Ball - POOR Lou Macari - GOOD (Both spells) Joe Jordan - AVERAGE Chic Bates - POOR Tony Pulis - GOOD Mark Hughes - GOOD* Paul Lambert - POOR Gary Rowett - AVERAGE Nathan Jones - POOR Michael O'Neill - AVERAGE** Alex Neil - AVERAGE*** *I'm classing Hughes as a good appointment because by and large his reign was enjoyable- better football, Shaq/Bojan/Arnie, big scalps, Cup semi. **If MON had kept up the momentum of his first half season I'd have ranked him higher but it fizzled out and became tedious to watch ***Difficult to make a proper judgement on Neil at the moment. Results are similar to Rowett's, a good window could see things improve but a poor one could see a relegation battle and his standing to be Poor I make that 3 English men, 4 Scots men, 3 Welsh men and 1 Irish man. The Welsh have it with 2 good and a poor. The English worst with 2 poor and an average. Scots and Irish somewhere in between. I've edited my post, I missed a few out!
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Post by callas12 on Jan 3, 2023 23:54:58 GMT
Michael O'Neill's win record over those amount of games, against a backdrop of a complete strip and rebuild for FFP is actually really impressive, especially taking into account the complete shit show he inherited also. Neil's win rate compared to Master Bates is also very worrying. So, managerial appointments under the Coates Family which I've graded as Good, Average and Poor. I'm not including caretakers as they were in situ by default, and I'll class Lou's two spells as one appointment. Alan Ball - POOR Lou Macari - GOOD (Both spells) Joe Jordan - AVERAGE Chic Bates - POOR Chris Kamara - POOR Brian Little - POOR Gary Megson - AVERAGE Tony Pulis (Reappointment) - GOOD Mark Hughes - GOOD* Paul Lambert - POOR Gary Rowett - AVERAGE Nathan Jones - POOR Michael O'Neill - AVERAGE** Alex Neil - AVERAGE*** *I'm classing Hughes as a good appointment because by and large his reign was enjoyable- better football, Shaq/Bojan/Arnie, big scalps, Cup semi. **If MON had kept up the momentum of his first half season I'd have ranked him higher but it fizzled out and became tedious to watch ***Difficult to make a proper judgement on Neil at the moment. Results are similar to Rowett's, a good window could see things improve but a poor one could see a relegation battle and his standing to be Poor So that's 14 permanent appointments with three good and six poor (twice as many poor appointments). You could argue the Icelanders had a better strike rate, with none of their foreign appointments being poor (Boskamp did reasonably well given his lack of experience in England and the circumstances when he took over of a threadbare squad) Gudjon Thordarson - GOOD Steve Cotterill - AVERAGE Tony Pulis (1st Appointment) - GOOD Johann Boskamp - AVERAGE Brian Little was appointed by Keith Humphries during his brief tenure, for info..
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 4, 2023 0:02:14 GMT
So, managerial appointments under the Coates Family which I've graded as Good, Average and Poor. I'm not including caretakers as they were in situ by default, and I'll class Lou's two spells as one appointment. Alan Ball - POOR Lou Macari - GOOD (Both spells) Joe Jordan - AVERAGE Chic Bates - POOR Chris Kamara - POOR Brian Little - POOR Gary Megson - AVERAGE Tony Pulis (Reappointment) - GOOD Mark Hughes - GOOD* Paul Lambert - POOR Gary Rowett - AVERAGE Nathan Jones - POOR Michael O'Neill - AVERAGE** Alex Neil - AVERAGE*** *I'm classing Hughes as a good appointment because by and large his reign was enjoyable- better football, Shaq/Bojan/Arnie, big scalps, Cup semi. **If MON had kept up the momentum of his first half season I'd have ranked him higher but it fizzled out and became tedious to watch ***Difficult to make a proper judgement on Neil at the moment. Results are similar to Rowett's, a good window could see things improve but a poor one could see a relegation battle and his standing to be Poor So that's 14 permanent appointments with three good and six poor (twice as many poor appointments). You could argue the Icelanders had a better strike rate, with none of their foreign appointments being poor (Boskamp did reasonably well given his lack of experience in England and the circumstances when he took over of a threadbare squad) Gudjon Thordarson - GOOD Steve Cotterill - AVERAGE Tony Pulis (1st Appointment) - GOOD Johann Boskamp - AVERAGE Brian Little was appointed by Keith Humphries during his brief tenure, for info.. Good assessment though Id say Megson was good. Thought he was very unlucky to be axed.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jan 4, 2023 0:09:08 GMT
What is it with a minority of supporters who love to catastrophise.
Why do these "be careful what you wish for" (unambitious) supporters feel we are destined to sell to a corrupt Chinese businessman in jail or an Indian crook who will send the club under in a few weeks or Mike Ashley?
Believe it or not, we could sell and do well out of it. Dare I say it we might actually bring in a younger owner with some new energy, fresh ideas, a plan and the ability to invest in the right areas. He might even appoint a non British manager... Is that such an impossible idea to comprehend?
We are rotting in a championship relegation battle with a bunch of pretty dross players playing some of the most lifeless football you'll ever see at Stoke. We've had years of total failure and its getting worse.
It's appalling, Coates out.
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Post by bingbang on Jan 4, 2023 8:18:12 GMT
John Coates will never leave Stoke. If he did his sister would have to find him a job at 365.She keeps him here out of harm's way.
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Post by dutchstokie on Jan 4, 2023 9:01:17 GMT
John Coates will never leave Stoke. If he did his sister would have to find him a job at 365.She keeps him here out of harm's way. .....funny and probably has a grain of truth about it.
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Post by LGH87 on Jan 4, 2023 9:39:04 GMT
What is it with a minority of supporters who love to catastrophise. Why do these "be careful what you wish for" (unambitious) supporters feel we are destined to sell to a corrupt Chinese businessman in jail or an Indian crook who will send the club under in a few weeks or Mike Ashley? Believe it or not, we could sell and do well out of it. Dare I say it we might actually bring in a younger owner with some new energy, fresh ideas, a plan and the ability to invest in the right areas. He might even appoint a non British manager... Is that such an impossible idea to comprehend? We are rotting in a championship relegation battle with a bunch of pretty dross players playing some of the most lifeless football you'll ever see at Stoke. We've had years of total failure and its getting worse. It's appalling, Coates out. It's ridiculous mate, they're like a brainwashed cult who are obsessed with free coaches that the vast majority of the fanbase neither use or have access too and I just can't get my head around it
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Post by thevoid on Jan 4, 2023 10:28:44 GMT
What is it with a minority of supporters who love to catastrophise. Why do these "be careful what you wish for" (unambitious) supporters feel we are destined to sell to a corrupt Chinese businessman in jail or an Indian crook who will send the club under in a few weeks or Mike Ashley? Believe it or not, we could sell and do well out of it. Dare I say it we might actually bring in a younger owner with some new energy, fresh ideas, a plan and the ability to invest in the right areas. He might even appoint a non British manager... Is that such an impossible idea to comprehend? We are rotting in a championship relegation battle with a bunch of pretty dross players playing some of the most lifeless football you'll ever see at Stoke. We've had years of total failure and its getting worse. It's appalling, Coates out. It's ridiculous mate, they're like a brainwashed cult who are obsessed with free coaches that the vast majority of the fanbase neither use or have access too and I just can't get my head around it Stoke-holm Syndrome
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Post by PotterLog on Jan 4, 2023 10:42:02 GMT
It's ridiculous mate, they're like a brainwashed cult who are obsessed with free coaches that the vast majority of the fanbase neither use or have access too and I just can't get my head around it Stoke-holm Syndrome Stoke-home syndrome?
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Post by nott1 on Jan 4, 2023 10:51:07 GMT
If we got rid of the Coates family there would be nobody with that sort of money who would take the club on.We are no sleeping giant like Newcastle!
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Post by adamsson on Jan 4, 2023 11:08:39 GMT
If we got rid of the Coates family there would be nobody with that sort of money who would take the club on.We are no sleeping giant like Newcastle! Unfortunately that is truth. Nobody would look at Stoke and think they could be a good investment and there no billionaire fans willing to poor to their money down the drain other than the Coates family. At least we never have to worry about administration just relegation and boredom
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Post by theonlooker on Jan 4, 2023 11:13:54 GMT
The way we have been run and the situation we find ourselves in, their money is proving to be useless though. We need brains and an ability to speculate the FFP headroom needed to spend any kind of money. Their lavish spending off the back of a dreadful appointment has caused this mess, not a lack of money.
Currently it's now obvious we are in a position where we need to sell Souttar to be able to spend any kind of cash, so surely that's the model to follow and the model any other owner coming into football does nowadays?
It's time to face facts, the days of multi billion pound owners taking their clubs through the leagues are over regardless of how much we moan about the rules. Yes, the rules benefit the very top and keep the status quo but little old Stoke City with super rich owners clearly aren't going to change them, and if anything they are getting worse and more stringent.
We need a complete rethink of how we run the club and that comes from the owners. They simply have to change everything they're doing and pretty much start again.
If they don't we will only continue to go down.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 4, 2023 11:18:24 GMT
So, managerial appointments under the Coates Family which I've graded as Good, Average and Poor. I'm not including caretakers as they were in situ by default, and I'll class Lou's two spells as one appointment. Alan Ball - POOR Lou Macari - GOOD (Both spells) Joe Jordan - AVERAGE Chic Bates - POOR Tony Pulis - GOOD Mark Hughes - GOOD* Paul Lambert - POOR Gary Rowett - AVERAGE Nathan Jones - POOR Michael O'Neill - AVERAGE** Alex Neil - AVERAGE*** *I'm classing Hughes as a good appointment because by and large his reign was enjoyable- better football, Shaq/Bojan/Arnie, big scalps, Cup semi. **If MON had kept up the momentum of his first half season I'd have ranked him higher but it fizzled out and became tedious to watch ***Difficult to make a proper judgement on Neil at the moment. Results are similar to Rowett's, a good window could see things improve but a poor one could see a relegation battle and his standing to be Poor I make that 3 English men, 4 Scots men, 3 Welsh men and 1 Irish man. The Welsh have it with 2 good and a poor. The English worst with 2 poor and an average. Scots and Irish somewhere in between. Who knows I stopped paying any heed when I read that Joe Jordan was average on the basis that anything further was bound to be bullshit
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 4, 2023 11:32:44 GMT
If we got rid of the Coates family there would be nobody with that sort of money who would take the club on.We are no sleeping giant like Newcastle! Unfortunately that is truth. Nobody would look at Stoke and think they could be a good investment and there no billionaire fans willing to poor to their money down the drain other than the Coates family. At least we never have to worry about administration just relegation and boredom Also there seems to be some rumblings around a change in the FFP rules so if a significant relaxation occurs the Coates's financial wealth and commitment would suddenly become a major advantage for SCFC. They may be hamstrung right now but that isn't guaranteed to remain so in the near future, it seems to me.
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 4, 2023 11:33:41 GMT
Michael O'Neill's win record over those amount of games, against a backdrop of a complete strip and rebuild for FFP is actually really impressive, especially taking into account the complete shit show he inherited also. Neil's win rate compared to Master Bates is also very worrying. So, managerial appointments under the Coates Family which I've graded as Good, Average and Poor. I'm not including caretakers as they were in situ by default, and I'll class Lou's two spells as one appointment. Alan Ball - POOR Lou Macari - GOOD (Both spells) Joe Jordan - AVERAGE Chic Bates - POOR Chris Kamara - POOR Brian Little - POOR Gary Megson - AVERAGE Tony Pulis (Reappointment) - GOOD Mark Hughes - GOOD* Paul Lambert - POOR Gary Rowett - AVERAGE Nathan Jones - POOR Michael O'Neill - AVERAGE** Alex Neil - AVERAGE*** *I'm classing Hughes as a good appointment because by and large his reign was enjoyable- better football, Shaq/Bojan/Arnie, big scalps, Cup semi. **If MON had kept up the momentum of his first half season I'd have ranked him higher but it fizzled out and became tedious to watch ***Difficult to make a proper judgement on Neil at the moment. Results are similar to Rowett's, a good window could see things improve but a poor one could see a relegation battle and his standing to be Poor So that's 14 permanent appointments with three good and six poor (twice as many poor appointments). You could argue the Icelanders had a better strike rate, with none of their foreign appointments being poor (Boskamp did reasonably well given his lack of experience in England and the circumstances when he took over of a threadbare squad) Gudjon Thordarson - GOOD Steve Cotterill - AVERAGE Tony Pulis (1st Appointment) - GOOD Johann Boskamp - AVERAGE Gary Rowett - DISASTEROUS Spent a fortune on utter dogshit.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 4, 2023 12:35:03 GMT
So, managerial appointments under the Coates Family which I've graded as Good, Average and Poor. I'm not including caretakers as they were in situ by default, and I'll class Lou's two spells as one appointment. Alan Ball - POOR Lou Macari - GOOD (Both spells) Joe Jordan - AVERAGE Chic Bates - POOR Chris Kamara - POOR Brian Little - POOR Gary Megson - AVERAGE Tony Pulis (Reappointment) - GOOD Mark Hughes - GOOD* Paul Lambert - POOR Gary Rowett - AVERAGE Nathan Jones - POOR Michael O'Neill - AVERAGE** Alex Neil - AVERAGE*** *I'm classing Hughes as a good appointment because by and large his reign was enjoyable- better football, Shaq/Bojan/Arnie, big scalps, Cup semi. **If MON had kept up the momentum of his first half season I'd have ranked him higher but it fizzled out and became tedious to watch ***Difficult to make a proper judgement on Neil at the moment. Results are similar to Rowett's, a good window could see things improve but a poor one could see a relegation battle and his standing to be Poor So that's 14 permanent appointments with three good and six poor (twice as many poor appointments). You could argue the Icelanders had a better strike rate, with none of their foreign appointments being poor (Boskamp did reasonably well given his lack of experience in England and the circumstances when he took over of a threadbare squad) Gudjon Thordarson - GOOD Steve Cotterill - AVERAGE Tony Pulis (1st Appointment) - GOOD Johann Boskamp - AVERAGE Gary Rowett - DISASTEROUS Spent a fortune on utter dogshit. There is no consistency to the posters reasoning. The only logic for Rowett being classeed as average is that he did ok before he came and went elsewhere and did ok too and on that basis Nathan Jones must be better. When in actual fact both were absolute dog shit as you rightly describe whilst at Stoke.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 4, 2023 12:39:57 GMT
Unfortunately that is truth. Nobody would look at Stoke and think they could be a good investment and there no billionaire fans willing to poor to their money down the drain other than the Coates family. At least we never have to worry about administration just relegation and boredom Also there seems to be some rumblings around a change in the FFP rules so if a significant relaxation occurs the Coates's financial wealth and commitment would suddenly become a major advantage for SCFC. They may be hamstrung right now but that isn't guaranteed to remain so in the near future, it seems to me. Nobody really wants them to leave. If they're going to be allowed to invest more into the club someone professional would do much better with it than they will do themselves. All it involves is them admitting they know fuck all about modern day football and hiring people who do.
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Post by march4 on Jan 4, 2023 12:42:35 GMT
Also there seems to be some rumblings around a change in the FFP rules so if a significant relaxation occurs the Coates's financial wealth and commitment would suddenly become a major advantage for SCFC. They may be hamstrung right now but that isn't guaranteed to remain so in the near future, it seems to me. Nobody really wants them to leave. If they're going to be allowed to invest more into the club someone professional would do much better with it than they will do themselves. All it involves is them admitting they know fuck all about modern day football and hiring people who do. I nominate Tony Pulis.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 4, 2023 12:42:43 GMT
Unfortunately that is truth. Nobody would look at Stoke and think they could be a good investment and there no billionaire fans willing to poor to their money down the drain other than the Coates family. At least we never have to worry about administration just relegation and boredom Also there seems to be some rumblings around a change in the FFP rules so if a significant relaxation occurs the Coates's financial wealth and commitment would suddenly become a major advantage for SCFC. They may be hamstrung right now but that isn't guaranteed to remain so in the near future, it seems to me. Possibly, but the problem goes beyond being hamstrung. Their wealth and commitment being an advantage is still contingent on the level of buffoon they've entrusted with it. Until that changes, I don't see things changing dramatically for us.
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