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Post by mickstupp on Jan 14, 2023 21:05:36 GMT
Not sure about Harwood Bellis. He was ok I suppose. My point really was we have made a complete pigs ear out of our use of the loan market, particularly since relegation. I’m hearing we can only sign loans in January so I’m not filled with confidence. oh 100%. Since relegation and off the top of my head we've had Ashley Williams Cuca Martina Mark Duffy Sima Jack Clarke Rabbi Matondo Cameron Carter vickers James Chester *went onto sign Scott Hogan Ryhs Norrington Davies Jaden Philogene Bidace Liam Moore Josh Maja Romaine Sawyers Leo ostigaard Liam Delap Will smallbone Harry Clarke Dujon Sterling Tariq Fosu Havin Kilkenny A couple of keepers that didn't really play There's actually a few good pplayers in there, but for whatever reason they were poorly deployed or not up to the mark Christ almighty there’s some shit in there. I’d airbrushed a few of them from memory. Mark Duffy 😀.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 14, 2023 21:09:24 GMT
Not sure about Harwood Bellis. He was ok I suppose. My point really was we have made a complete pigs ear out of our use of the loan market, particularly since relegation. I’m hearing we can only sign loans in January so I’m not filled with confidence. oh 100%. Since relegation and off the top of my head we've had Ashley Williams Cuca Martina Mark Duffy Sima Jack Clarke Rabbi Matondo Cameron Carter vickers James Chester *went onto sign Scott Hogan Ryhs Norrington Davies Jaden Philogene Bidace Liam Moore Josh Maja Romaine Sawyers Leo ostigaard Liam Delap Will smallbone Harry Clarke Dujon Sterling Tariq Fosu Havin Kilkenny A couple of keepers that didn't really play There's actually a few good pplayers in there, but for whatever reason they were poorly deployed or not up to the mark JPB was decent
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 14, 2023 21:11:12 GMT
Stoke as a club offer a good template on how not to use the loan market.. mind you you could also substitute the word transfer for loan and it would be equally true. Worrying
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Post by biglad180 on Jan 14, 2023 21:13:57 GMT
may as well send all our loans back as they cannot get in the team,
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 14, 2023 21:20:11 GMT
Henri Camara Stephen Kelly
Jermaine Pennant (totally forgot he was a loan to start with) John Carew
Oussama Assaidi Stephen Ireland John Guidetti
Victor Moses Oussama Assaidi Philip Wollscheid
Marco Van Ginkel
Wilfried Bony Lee Grant Bruno Martins Indi
Kurt Zouma Jesé Kostas Stafylidis
RELEGATED
Benik Afobe Cuco Martina Ryan Woods Ashley Williams
Scott Hogan Cameron Carter-Vickers Mark Duffy James Chester
Angus Gunn Rabbi Matondo Jack Clarke Rhys Norrington-Davies
Leo Ostigard Taylor Harwood-Bellis Romaine Sawyers Abdullah Sima Jaden Philogene-Bidace Liam Moore Josh Maja
Harry Clarke Dujon Sterling Will Smallbone Gavin Kilkenny Tariqe Fosu Liam Delap
Of them the ones I desperately to keep:
Pennant Ireland Moses Indi
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 14, 2023 21:20:41 GMT
Zouma was a fucking cart horse. Useless. THB was ok but not good enough. Thought he looked the same against us the other week. Not convinced he’s any good at all. Assaidi was ok but nothing more. Why Shawcross probably? Shawcross is probably the best example? the question was who was the last decent loan player, not who was the best ever. Imo the last was Moses Zouma wasn’t decent. He was shite.
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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 14, 2023 21:24:03 GMT
the question was who was the last decent loan player, not who was the best ever. Imo the last was Moses Zouma wasn’t decent. He was shite. in your opinion 😆
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 14, 2023 21:29:31 GMT
the question was who was the last decent loan player, not who was the best ever. Imo the last was Moses Zouma wasn’t decent. He was shite. He was alright.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 14, 2023 21:38:22 GMT
Zouma wasn’t decent. He was shite. He was alright. He really wasn’t was he? He was a clown. He couldn’t do the basics like win headers or pass a ball. Awful defender.
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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 14, 2023 21:46:31 GMT
Zouma wasn’t decent. He was shite. He was alright. Gary, you've been told he was shite, now that's the end of the conversation
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Post by silsdenstokie on Jan 14, 2023 23:28:23 GMT
oh 100%. Since relegation and off the top of my head we've had Ashley Williams Cuca Martina Mark Duffy Sima Jack Clarke Rabbi Matondo Cameron Carter vickers James Chester *went onto sign Scott Hogan Ryhs Norrington Davies Jaden Philogene Bidace Liam Moore Josh Maja Romaine Sawyers Leo ostigaard Liam Delap Will smallbone Harry Clarke Dujon Sterling Tariq Fosu Havin Kilkenny A couple of keepers that didn't really play There's actually a few good pplayers in there, but for whatever reason they were poorly deployed or not up to the mark Christ almighty there’s some shit in there. I’d airbrushed a few of them from memory. Mark Duffy 😀. Remember being delighted when we signed Jack Clarke. Did very little for us but by all accounts has been great up at Sunderland
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Post by hotpot on Jan 14, 2023 23:55:37 GMT
Nobody is gonna bust a gut, until this transfer window ends. Every player (especially those that MON signed), well knows that AN wants his own people. So why would they want to risk the possibility of any injury? In another six months, things will change again.
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Post by stokeuk474 on Jan 15, 2023 9:12:39 GMT
I actually thought Liam Moore was decent when we had him 2nd half of last season. A leader, and someone willing to go in where it hurts
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 16, 2023 16:00:21 GMT
Looking at the Kilkenny situation (of Bournemouth monitoring him), surely we have more than a bit of reasoning to cancel the loan and Sterling back to Chelsea? He's barely played since he's been here and is taking up a valuable spot. Get him gone.
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Post by LGH87 on Jan 16, 2023 16:09:55 GMT
Looking at the Kilkenny situation (of Bournemouth monitoring him), surely we have more than a bit of reasoning to cancel the loan and Sterling back to Chelsea? He's barely played since he's been here and is taking up a valuable spot. Get him gone. You honestly believe Alex Neil's ego would allow him to cancel the loan of the one player he signed, before cancelling the loans of MON's signings?
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 16, 2023 16:56:59 GMT
Looking at the Kilkenny situation (of Bournemouth monitoring him), surely we have more than a bit of reasoning to cancel the loan and Sterling back to Chelsea? He's barely played since he's been here and is taking up a valuable spot. Get him gone. You honestly believe Alex Neil's ego would allow him to cancel the loan of the one player he signed, before cancelling the loans of MON's signings? Well he's the only one I can think of, aside from Kilkenny, who we could send back for being injured so much. It's not like he hasn't worked out quality wise, he's been fine, but when did he last play? I think it's the end of October, which is almost 3 months ago.
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Post by LGH87 on Jan 16, 2023 17:03:41 GMT
You honestly believe Alex Neil's ego would allow him to cancel the loan of the one player he signed, before cancelling the loans of MON's signings? Well he's the only one I can think of, aside from Kilkenny, who we could send back for being injured so much. It's not like he hasn't worked out quality wise, he's been fine, but when did he last play? I think it's the end of October, which is almost 3 months ago. Even so he's allegedly back on the grass training now and I just don't think Alex Neil would allow himself to send back his one signing so far.
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Post by nonameface on Jan 16, 2023 18:00:37 GMT
Well he's the only one I can think of, aside from Kilkenny, who we could send back for being injured so much. It's not like he hasn't worked out quality wise, he's been fine, but when did he last play? I think it's the end of October, which is almost 3 months ago. Even so he's allegedly back on the grass training now and I just don't think Alex Neil would allow himself to send back his one signing so far. He's also the one loan player we should be looking to sign if he stays fit between now and the end of the season.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 16, 2023 18:21:19 GMT
Even so he's allegedly back on the grass training now and I just don't think Alex Neil would allow himself to send back his one signing so far. He's also the one loan player we should be looking to sign if he stays fit between now and the end of the season. He’s played 7 games and been pretty ordinary in my opinion.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 16, 2023 18:34:06 GMT
I actually thought Liam Moore was decent when we had him 2nd half of last season. A leader, and someone willing to go in where it hurts Yeah, I'd have been happy with him over Flint.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 16, 2023 18:38:55 GMT
He really wasn’t was he? He was a clown. He couldn’t do the basics like win headers or pass a ball. Awful defender. Not to mention a fucking filthy animal abuser who should be locked up the disgusting prick
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