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Post by stokesaint1 on Dec 10, 2022 19:38:37 GMT
Pretty fucking wank aren't they. They need to be, to fit in with the rest of this shambles of a squad.
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Post by independent on Dec 10, 2022 19:53:32 GMT
"Was it Fose or Tymon that put a good ball into the edge of the six yards and no one attacked it? I've got Fosu in my head but I'm usually wrong." Good to see you admit it.
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Post by andystokey on Dec 10, 2022 19:56:21 GMT
Smallbone was absolutely awful today, but i do have a feeling in a couple of years he may turn into a decent player. Unfortunately not with us. The way he shits out of any contact drives me nuts. That second goal started with him on the edge of Cardiff's penalty area. If he gets across his man he gets a shot else if he doesn't it's a foul and we reset. Countless times he just waves the opposition past him, too weak for this division.
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 10, 2022 20:19:09 GMT
I like Smallbone and Sterling. Unfortunately Sterling seems very injury prone, the same goes for Killkenny. Fosu has been hit and miss and same goes for Clarke. Delap has mostly been crap, but today he scored and also should have had at least one penalty.Hopefully a turning point for Delap!
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Post by kjpt140v on Dec 10, 2022 20:37:23 GMT
I can't believe the standard of the players we loan in. Pulis used to bring in class players, both young and experienced.
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Post by Northy on Dec 10, 2022 20:49:01 GMT
"Was it Fose or Tymon that put a good ball into the edge of the six yards and no one attacked it? I've got Fosu in my head but I'm usually wrong."Good to see you admit it. I thought it came from the right side, Brown or Campbell ?
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Post by westlandstokie on Dec 11, 2022 6:01:43 GMT
Sterling a Fosu are the only ones worthy of any credit so far. Fossu is dire…that’s why he is at Stoke and not Brentford. Way too weak and there is rarely an end product with his play…looks to be working hard and running a lot but there is never any end product…good god we are a club in a proper mess at the moment.
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Post by westlandstokie on Dec 11, 2022 6:04:09 GMT
Send them all back. Hopefully Man City will recall Delap. For someone Guardiola supposedly has high hopes for, he has the first touch of a baby elephant. 100%…and his second touch is usually a tackle…massively overrated.
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Post by chuckrocky on Dec 11, 2022 7:39:51 GMT
Sterling has been the only one that looks like a player and he’s made of biscuits.
Would happily send all six back to their clubs in January but the likelihood is we’re stuck with them all season.
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Post by idle on Dec 11, 2022 8:34:11 GMT
Clarke has been really poor in the last games, and needs to be benched. I'd rather we played Wilmot at RB (his errors will be less costly there) and Taylor or Jags in the middle with Souttar. And Fox on LB, although I think everyone forgets that Tymon was second last and third last on the ball for our goals yesterday. We don't have anyone else with passing skills, and his pace is really needed.
Samllbone is way too inconsistent, even within games. And that's why he's here and not playing in the prem. But I don't understand which role he's trying to play? Is he a playmaker? An attacking midfielder? A box-to-box midfielder? He plays like neither.
Delap finally scored, but 2 in 18(6 from the bench though) is poor for a striker of any kind. He's not quick, he's not strong and his movement is poor. He should havee had 2 pens though, so he wasn't all bad yesterday.
Fosu. I don't know. He didn't play well, but he's a right footed winger on the left. He should be able to cut in and shoot. But for that you need space. Did we really think Cardiff was going to give us space behind the defence with Campbell and Fosu up front? Ideally I'd bench him and push Tymon up there for more crosses.
Kilkenny and Sterling is more injured than playing. Not what we need, even if Sterling have had a few good games (and a couple of poor ones as well!)
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Post by lordb on Dec 11, 2022 10:00:16 GMT
Smallbone was absolutely awful today, but i do have a feeling in a couple of years he may turn into a decent player. Unfortunately not with us. Agree Young player who is going to get better but not here
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Post by Miles Offside on Dec 11, 2022 18:06:08 GMT
Employing a formation that actually suits the players would help to get the best out of them.
Play a back four instead of this back 3 with "wing-backs" nonsense. Provide some cover for the full-backs. Stop playing long ball to forwards who've got no chance of holding it up. Play Tymon as a left midfielder, or even winger, as he's our most dynamic runner with the ball at his feet. Actually have a game plan.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 11, 2022 18:52:25 GMT
Employing a formation that actually suits the players would help to get the best out of them. Play a back four instead of this back 3 with "wing-backs" nonsense. Provide some cover for the full-backs. Stop playing long ball to forwards who've got no chance of holding it up. Play Tymon as a left midfielder, or even winger, as he's our most dynamic runner with the ball at his feet. Actually have a game plan. He did play a back four yesterday tbf.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 11, 2022 18:53:17 GMT
Smallbone was absolutely awful today, but i do have a feeling in a couple of years he may turn into a decent player. Unfortunately not with us. Agree Young player who is going to get better but not here Like Delap his touch is absolutely appalling. Seems just fundamentally bad at football
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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 14, 2023 20:36:32 GMT
Anyone know why Will Smallbone wasn't in the squad today
Hoping mad Nath has decided young William is the answer to Sotons left back dilemma
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 14, 2023 20:39:06 GMT
Anyone know why Will Smallbone wasn't in the squad today Hoping mad Nath has decided young William is the answer to Sotons left back dilemma Sadly it was nothing more than an injury.
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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 14, 2023 20:41:00 GMT
Anyone know why Will Smallbone wasn't in the squad today Hoping mad Nath has decided young William is the answer to Sotons left back dilemma Sadly it was nothing more than an injury. ahhh damn, thanks though Dave I actually thought for 30 odd minutes in the 2nd half our midfield played well and Baker looked far more effective higher up
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 14, 2023 20:42:54 GMT
Sadly it was nothing more than an injury. ahhh damn, thanks though Dave I actually thought for 30 odd minutes in the 2nd half our midfield played well and Baker looked far more effective higher up We are so desperate we’ll take any glimmer of light won’t we. Just being crap was an improvement on us being absolutely shit 😂
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 14, 2023 20:43:46 GMT
Who is the last decent loan signing this club has made. I’m thinking now about a player who has come in and made a real positive difference and genuinely improved the team like we see with other clubs every season. Lee Hendrie over 15 years ago?
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Post by JesusisaStokie on Jan 14, 2023 20:44:47 GMT
Who is the last decent loan signing this club has made. I’m thinking now about a player who has come in and made a real positive difference and genuinely improved the team like we see with other clubs every season. Lee Hendrie over 15 years ago? Moses
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 14, 2023 20:45:24 GMT
Who is the last decent loan signing this club has made. I’m thinking now about a player who has come in and made a real positive difference and genuinely improved the team like we see with other clubs every season. Lee Hendrie over 15 years ago? Shawcross?
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 14, 2023 20:45:36 GMT
Who is the last decent loan signing this club has made. I’m thinking now about a player who has come in and made a real positive difference and genuinely improved the team like we see with other clubs every season. Lee Hendrie over 15 years ago? Moses Good shout. I liked him but he was often injured and occasionally disinterested.
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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 14, 2023 20:45:37 GMT
Who is the last decent loan signing this club has made. I’m thinking now about a player who has come in and made a real positive difference and genuinely improved the team like we see with other clubs every season. Lee Hendrie over 15 years ago? shawcross probably but Assaidi was OK Zouma was ok Harwood Bellis was decent Moses was very good
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 14, 2023 20:48:14 GMT
Who is the last decent loan signing this club has made. I’m thinking now about a player who has come in and made a real positive difference and genuinely improved the team like we see with other clubs every season. Lee Hendrie over 15 years ago? shawcross probably but Assaidi was OK Zouma was ok Harwood Bellis was decent Moses was very good Not sure about Harwood Bellis. He was ok I suppose. My point really was we have made a complete pigs ear out of our use of the loan market, particularly since relegation. I’m hearing we can only sign loans in January so I’m not filled with confidence.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 14, 2023 20:55:01 GMT
Who is the last decent loan signing this club has made. I’m thinking now about a player who has come in and made a real positive difference and genuinely improved the team like we see with other clubs every season. Lee Hendrie over 15 years ago? Moses, Shawcross, Cort. Struggling after that.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 14, 2023 20:56:54 GMT
Who is the last decent loan signing this club has made. I’m thinking now about a player who has come in and made a real positive difference and genuinely improved the team like we see with other clubs every season. Lee Hendrie over 15 years ago? shawcross probably but Assaidi was OK Zouma was ok Harwood Bellis was decent Moses was very good Zouma was a fucking cart horse. Useless. THB was ok but not good enough. Thought he looked the same against us the other week. Not convinced he’s any good at all. Assaidi was ok but nothing more. Why Shawcross probably? Shawcross is probably the best example?
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 14, 2023 20:57:36 GMT
Who is the last decent loan signing this club has made. I’m thinking now about a player who has come in and made a real positive difference and genuinely improved the team like we see with other clubs every season. Lee Hendrie over 15 years ago? Moses, Shawcross, Cort. Struggling after that. Dismal. How many loans since relegation? Must be 20+ players and none of them have made any kind of positive contribution.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 14, 2023 20:58:36 GMT
Moses, Shawcross, Cort. Struggling after that. Dismal. How many loans since relegation? Must be 20+ players and none of them have made any kind of positive contribution. I’m bored enough to check from the first season in PL. Give me an hour 😂
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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 14, 2023 21:02:38 GMT
shawcross probably but Assaidi was OK Zouma was ok Harwood Bellis was decent Moses was very good Not sure about Harwood Bellis. He was ok I suppose. My point really was we have made a complete pigs ear out of our use of the loan market, particularly since relegation. I’m hearing we can only sign loans in January so I’m not filled with confidence. oh 100%. Since relegation and off the top of my head we've had Ashley Williams Cuca Martina Mark Duffy Sima Jack Clarke Rabbi Matondo Cameron Carter vickers James Chester *went onto sign Scott Hogan Ryhs Norrington Davies Jaden Philogene Bidace Liam Moore Josh Maja Romaine Sawyers Leo ostigaard Liam Delap Will smallbone Harry Clarke Dujon Sterling Tariq Fosu Havin Kilkenny A couple of keepers that didn't really play There's actually a few good pplayers in there, but for whatever reason they were poorly deployed or not up to the mark
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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 14, 2023 21:04:45 GMT
shawcross probably but Assaidi was OK Zouma was ok Harwood Bellis was decent Moses was very good Zouma was a fucking cart horse. Useless. THB was ok but not good enough. Thought he looked the same against us the other week. Not convinced he’s any good at all. Assaidi was ok but nothing more. Why Shawcross probably? Shawcross is probably the best example? the question was who was the last decent loan player, not who was the best ever. Imo the last was Moses
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