samuel32
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Post by samuel32 on Jan 20, 2023 7:09:52 GMT
Harry has only just bought a new house in the area and is settled so any move would have to be commutable. Funnily enough I live quite near to Harry and have to go to Leicester three or four times a year. Sat nav says 80 mins but often takes over two hours. Wouldn't fancy that journey every day. He'll probably just move there mate. |
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Post by idle on Jan 20, 2023 7:10:02 GMT
I hope and think you are correct. I don't buy all this selling Souttar to fall in line with ffp. I think it's to finance the deals Neil wants to do. Probably three or four expensive loans possibly with a view to buy in the summer. I think selling Souttar would just suit the whole business. Whether It helps more with FFP I don’t know with income but also funds Neil for transfers like you say. So all round good deal for the club if we get the right money. What's the right money though? I don't know why some people don't see what a player Souttar is. "He's been average", "he hasn't improved our defence", "he's ok", "he's not that good for us". People really have short memories. We totally fell apart when he got injured last season, and the only reason he's not improved us as much as we want to is that he's being played on the right in the back three. Because Jags is too slow to play there and Wilmot is a mistake factory. Collins wasn't as good and we got way more for him. We would then need to replace him, and get a decent goalie and a decent DM at least for thet money, or maybe less if MON screwed our FFP numbers in the summer. Or we will go down. Simple as. |
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Post by BlurtonRed on Jan 20, 2023 7:16:39 GMT
I think selling Souttar would just suit the whole business. Whether It helps more with FFP I don’t know with income but also funds Neil for transfers like you say. So all round good deal for the club if we get the right money. What's the right money though? I don't know why some people don't see what a player Souttar is. "He's been average", "he hasn't improved our defence", "he's ok", "he's not that good for us". People really have short memories. We totally fell apart when he got injured last season, and the only reason he's not improved us as much as we want to is that he's being played on the right in the back three. Because Jags is too slow to play there and Wilmot is a mistake factory. Collins wasn't as good and we got way more for him. We would then need to replace him, and get a decent goalie and a decent DM at least for thet money, or maybe less if MON screwed our FFP numbers in the summer. Or we will go down. Simple as. For me Collins is and was the better of the two. Souttar for me just doesn't have that physicality too be a decent Prem centre back. I do agree though that he should play im the middle of the back three |
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Post by hcstokie on Jan 20, 2023 7:29:54 GMT
I think selling Souttar would just suit the whole business. Whether It helps more with FFP I don’t know with income but also funds Neil for transfers like you say. So all round good deal for the club if we get the right money. What's the right money though? I don't know why some people don't see what a player Souttar is. "He's been average", "he hasn't improved our defence", "he's ok", "he's not that good for us". People really have short memories. We totally fell apart when he got injured last season, and the only reason he's not improved us as much as we want to is that he's being played on the right in the back three. Because Jags is too slow to play there and Wilmot is a mistake factory. Collins wasn't as good and we got way more for him. We would then need to replace him, and get a decent goalie and a decent DM at least for thet money, or maybe less if MON screwed our FFP numbers in the summer. Or we will go down. Simple as. If we can sell him to Leicester and involve Iverson and get another 8-10 million on top it’s got to be done. That sorts the GK position and gives us some money to spend on a CB and DM. If we don’t sell him we have no money to get a GK or DM. It’s that simple, we need to lose one player in order to try and strengthen in 2 or 3 key areas. Whether our shambles of a recruitment team can deliver and spend the money improving us is a different matter, but the decision to sell Souttar right now is the correct one. It’s a bitter pill to swallow but it’s entirely our own fault that we’re in this position. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2023 7:42:53 GMT
The Spanish lad we've been tracking since the start of the window. Dirt cheap he is. Noah Juan. Position? Left back (in the changing room) |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 20, 2023 8:10:27 GMT
Funnily enough I live quite near to Harry and have to go to Leicester three or four times a year. Sat nav says 80 mins but often takes over two hours. Wouldn't fancy that journey every day. I don’t think moving house and commutable journeys would make a difference when there’s a premier league team and multi million pound contract involved. It could be Southampton or Newcastle. He’d still go either way and move if the deal was right, it’s the premier league he wants and he’s not going to get it with stoke within the next few years. Well I'm sorry but you're wrong. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 20, 2023 8:19:07 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jan 20, 2023 8:29:37 GMT
Financial FairPlay is the biggest joke I’ve ever seen Where’s the FairPlay in Chelsea spending 600 million in 6 months? Yet we can’t spend a penny What’s the worst that could happen if we don’t meet the rules ? Point deduction or fine ? If it’s only a fine surely we should just buy whoever we want and take the hit if it means staying up. It would be both and a transfer embargo minimum 10 points |
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Post by idle on Jan 20, 2023 8:35:12 GMT
What's the right money though? I don't know why some people don't see what a player Souttar is. "He's been average", "he hasn't improved our defence", "he's ok", "he's not that good for us". People really have short memories. We totally fell apart when he got injured last season, and the only reason he's not improved us as much as we want to is that he's being played on the right in the back three. Because Jags is too slow to play there and Wilmot is a mistake factory. Collins wasn't as good and we got way more for him. We would then need to replace him, and get a decent goalie and a decent DM at least for thet money, or maybe less if MON screwed our FFP numbers in the summer. Or we will go down. Simple as. If we can sell him to Leicester and involve Iverson and get another 8-10 million on top it’s got to be done. That sorts the GK position and gives us some money to spend on a CB and DM. If we don’t sell him we have no money to get a GK or DM. It’s that simple, we need to lose one player in order to try and strengthen in 2 or 3 key areas. Whether our shambles of a recruitment team can deliver and spend the money improving us is a different matter, but the decision to sell Souttar right now is the correct one. It’s a bitter pill to swallow but it’s entirely our own fault that we’re in this position. We'll have to disagree on Collins vs. Souttar. Souttar kept world stars quiet and Collins failed to make a PL impact. As for the rest, that's a lot of pretty big ifs. Would Iversen even come here with a good chance of being in L1 next season? And if our stellar recruiting team fails, we go down. I think we have a chance of staying up with Harry, but no chance without a similarly good stopper. But I agree we need a keeper and a DM, so this is a hard decision. |
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Post by Squeekster on Jan 20, 2023 8:39:56 GMT
I don't understand that. If we can get through until the Summer without sanction how are we fucked? The situation is said to ease considerably by the Summer. Do we need money to pay Neil off? The message I got was, we need to sell by the summer for FFP I was told come the summer we'd be in a strong position but doing nothing this window. |
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Post by LGH87 on Jan 20, 2023 8:54:24 GMT
The message I got was, we need to sell by the summer for FFP I was told come the summer we'd be in a strong position but doing nothing this window. If we do nothing in this window, we will be relegated. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 20, 2023 8:56:28 GMT
As was mentioned earlier, if the situation improves in the summer, why can't we do loan-to-compulsory buys?
Clubs seem to do that quite regularly for FFP-related reasons?
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Post by LGH87 on Jan 20, 2023 8:57:35 GMT
As was mentioned earlier, if the situation improves in the summer, why can't we do loan-to-compulsory buys? Clubs seem to do that quite regularly for FFP-related reasons? Cos the brain trust probably haven't fucking realised. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 20, 2023 8:57:55 GMT
Financial FairPlay is the biggest joke I’ve ever seen Where’s the FairPlay in Chelsea spending 600 million in 6 months? Yet we can’t spend a penny What’s the worst that could happen if we don’t meet the rules ? Point deduction or fine ? If it’s only a fine surely we should just buy whoever we want and take the hit if it means staying up. Do you actually think we can break the rules and then tell the league we only did it because we thought we'd get away with a fine (which incidentally would result in us having even less money to spend on players we can't buy because of the transfer embargo)? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 20, 2023 8:57:59 GMT
I was told come the summer we'd be in a strong position but doing nothing this window. If we do nothing in this window, we will be relegated. No doubt about it. We’re an injury away from having Fielding or Simkin in goal. We haven’t got a fit right back. We don’t own a left back that’s to standard. We have one good centre half who is being misused. We don’t own a midfield. We don’t have any wingers the manager likes. And we have no one that can lead the line. Other than that it’s great. |
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jan 20, 2023 8:58:33 GMT
As was mentioned earlier, if the situation improves in the summer, why can't we do loan-to-compulsory buys? Clubs seem to do that quite regularly for FFP-related reasons? It’s about as big an “If” as it’s possible to conceive at the moment though. We’re in deep, deep shit. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2023 9:10:47 GMT
As was mentioned earlier, if the situation improves in the summer, why can't we do loan-to-compulsory buys? Clubs seem to do that quite regularly for FFP-related reasons? Loan with a compulsory buy in League One, at Championship level figures, if they don't work out and we go down? |
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Post by robrigo on Jan 20, 2023 9:15:35 GMT
The message I got was, we need to sell by the summer for FFP I was told come the summer we'd be in a strong position but doing nothing this window. Let’s hope that come the summer we are still a Championship club. Honestly, I get that the board are local, and fan’s themselves. I get all that, but I’m done with our owners. Nothing I can do about it, but I have zero faith anymore. |
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Post by LGH87 on Jan 20, 2023 9:16:21 GMT
As was mentioned earlier, if the situation improves in the summer, why can't we do loan-to-compulsory buys? Clubs seem to do that quite regularly for FFP-related reasons? Loan with a compulsory buy in League One, at Championship level figures, if they don't work out and we go down? We can spend what we like in League one, you just can't spend more than 60% of revenue on wages. Maybe that's the master plan? Get relegated, spend £100m on players with contracts that have a 150% promotion increase clause  |
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Post by nottsover60 on Jan 20, 2023 9:21:08 GMT
Harry has only just bought a new house in the area and is settled so any move would have to be commutable. Funnily enough I live quite near to Harry and have to go to Leicester three or four times a year. Sat nav says 80 mins but often takes over two hours. Wouldn't fancy that journey every day. We do it once a week in reverse - I'm assuming his house is in Cheshire? Average journey time is 90 minutes, often takes less depends on A500 traffic. I'm pretty sure footballers move house regularly unless they have children settled at school, or rent a flat for when needed. Didn't a small group travel up to Stoke on the train in Pulis's time? I don't think they would see it as a problem. |
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Post by chopperscfc on Jan 20, 2023 9:24:09 GMT
I don’t think moving house and commutable journeys would make a difference when there’s a premier league team and multi million pound contract involved. It could be Southampton or Newcastle. He’d still go either way and move if the deal was right, it’s the premier league he wants and he’s not going to get it with stoke within the next few years. Well I'm sorry but you're wrong. So your telling me if Harry souttar gets offered a contract at Crystal Palace, he’s gonna turn around and say, “No thanks Mr Viera, I love my home here around the stoke Cheshire areas and will keep my wages at Half what you’re offering, and enjoy the depths of the championship and maybe league one because trentham gardens is beautiful.” Come off it. I’ve seen it in football and I’ll see it again. Marko was a classic example. I’ll give you Leicester is commutable maybe. |
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Post by callas12 on Jan 20, 2023 9:36:24 GMT
Players commuting for new clubs is very rarely an issue. Not saying it never is, but in the main players aren't fussed, they follow the money & the opportunities.
Crouch & Huth definitely used to commute from their homes in London on a regular basis up to Stoke.
Footballers these days have pads here there and everywhere, Pennant even forgot he'd got a Cheshire home, whats that all about!
Even Pulis used to commute down to Bournemouth after a match on a Saturday evening and then travel back up for training on either the Sunday night or early Monday morning.
Butlands based on the south coast but was fine playing for us, then he obviously played for Palace and is back up North now with Manchester United. & he has a young family now.
Souttar travelling to Leicester for work purposes wouldn't be an issue, he'd make it work.
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Post by gogogadget on Jan 20, 2023 9:36:53 GMT
If we do nothing in this window, we will be relegated. No doubt about it. We’re an injury away from having Fielding or Simkin in goal. We haven’t got a fit right back. We don’t own a left back that’s to standard. We have one good centre half who is being misused. We don’t own a midfield. We don’t have any wingers the manager likes. And we have no one that can lead the line. Other than that it’s great. Roll on tomorrow 😢 |
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Post by gogogadget on Jan 20, 2023 9:40:35 GMT
Players commuting for new clubs is very rarely an issue. Not saying it never is, but in the main players aren't fussed, they follow the money & the opportunities. Crouch & Huth definitely used to commute from their homes in London on a regular basis up to Stoke. Footballers these days have pads here there and everywhere, Pennant even forgot he'd got a Cheshire home, whats that all about! Even Pulis used to commute down to Bournemouth after a match on a Saturday evening and then travel back up for training on either the Sunday night or early Monday morning. Butlands based on the south coast but was fine playing for us, then he obviously played for Palace and is back up North now with Manchester United. & he has a young family now. Souttar travelling to Leicester for work purposes wouldn't be an issue, he'd make it work. I do it 3 days a week It’s no biggie They usually finish training at 2 so it’s hardly a long day |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jan 20, 2023 9:48:22 GMT
If we do nothing in this window, we will be relegated. No doubt about it. We’re an injury away from having Fielding or Simkin in goal. We haven’t got a fit right back. We don’t own a left back that’s to standard. We have one good centre half who is being misused. We don’t own a midfield. We don’t have any wingers the manager likes. And we have no one that can lead the line. Other than that it’s great. We don’t own a midfield.  Made me chuckle this. True mind. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 20, 2023 9:51:49 GMT
Players commuting for new clubs is very rarely an issue. Not saying it never is, but in the main players aren't fussed, they follow the money & the opportunities. Crouch & Huth definitely used to commute from their homes in London on a regular basis up to Stoke. Footballers these days have pads here there and everywhere, Pennant even forgot he'd got a Cheshire home, whats that all about! Even Pulis used to commute down to Bournemouth after a match on a Saturday evening and then travel back up for training on either the Sunday night or early Monday morning. Butlands based on the south coast but was fine playing for us, then he obviously played for Palace and is back up North now with Manchester United. & he has a young family now. Souttar travelling to Leicester for work purposes wouldn't be an issue, he'd make it work. I used to see Crouch and Glen Johnson on the train back down to London regularly back in the day........... |
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Post by Robo10 on Jan 20, 2023 9:53:17 GMT
My lads at uni in Loughborough and we travel from Biddulph - its literally 1hr 15mins away and Leicester is 10 miles down the road
Anyway, at this rate, I'm taking my boots tomorrow just in case - am 48, heart condition and a pacemaker/ICD fitted, fittish (running/walking), but havent played competitive football for 12 years so I should slot right in at LB/CH
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jan 20, 2023 9:55:45 GMT
If we do nothing in this window, we will be relegated. No doubt about it. We’re an injury away from having Fielding or Simkin in goal. We haven’t got a fit right back. We don’t own a left back that’s to standard. We have one good centre half who is being misused. We don’t own a midfield. We don’t have any wingers the manager likes. And we have no one that can lead the line. Other than that it’s great. We don't own a stadium We don't own a training ground. |
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Post by scfcwebby on Jan 20, 2023 10:01:21 GMT
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Post by LGH87 on Jan 20, 2023 10:02:53 GMT
I love how these twitter pages spin transfer articles. |
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