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Post by clarkeda on Jan 19, 2023 22:40:02 GMT
Seems like that is what Stoke are angling for. I'd snap their hands off for that. Something like 12 million plus Iverson sounds likely to me. I agree. It would smart abit but I think it would actually improve us. Depending what we did with the 10m that is. |
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jan 19, 2023 22:43:20 GMT
I don't understand that. If we can get through until the Summer without sanction how are we fucked? The situation is said to ease considerably by the Summer Because of the £39 million in 3 seasons limit and we’re a substantial amount over that,hence the inevitable sale of Souttar to the highest bidder Doesn’t make sense. We must have been compliant last season or we would have a sanction. With the Collins money and the losses from 2018/19 gone, how can we be in more trouble this season than last? |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 19, 2023 22:48:50 GMT
Because of the £39 million in 3 seasons limit and we’re a substantial amount over that,hence the inevitable sale of Souttar to the highest bidder Doesn’t make sense. We must have been compliant last season or we would have a sanction. With the Collins money and the losses from 2018/19 gone, how can we be in more trouble this season than last? We could have kept all the loan signings and been FFP compliant. The manager wants them gone so he can sign his players, that's all there is to it. |
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Post by chopperscfc on Jan 19, 2023 22:52:23 GMT
Because of the £39 million in 3 seasons limit and we’re a substantial amount over that,hence the inevitable sale of Souttar to the highest bidder Doesn’t make sense. We must have been compliant last season or we would have a sanction. With the Collins money and the losses from 2018/19 gone, how can we be in more trouble this season than last? Like I say I’m not directly involved in that really I just got a text saying we can’t do anything really unless we sell Souttar and it will sort us for the summer when we sell him with FFP. |
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Post by LGH87 on Jan 19, 2023 22:56:10 GMT
Doesn’t make sense. We must have been compliant last season or we would have a sanction. With the Collins money and the losses from 2018/19 gone, how can we be in more trouble this season than last? Like I say I’m not directly involved in that really I just got a text saying we can’t do anything really unless we sell Souttar and it will sort us for the summer when we sell him with FFP. We’re going down if we don’t do anything. GK, DM & ST bare minimum to stay in this league. We’d need a centre half of Harry were to go too. We’ll be operating to different FFP rules if we go down so it won’t matter in the end 😂 |
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Post by chopperscfc on Jan 19, 2023 22:57:55 GMT
Like I say I’m not directly involved in that really I just got a text saying we can’t do anything really unless we sell Souttar and it will sort us for the summer when we sell him with FFP. We’re going down if we don’t do anything. GK, DM & ST bare minimum to stay in this league. We’d need a centre half of Harry were to go too. We’ll be operating to different FFP rules if we go down so it won’t matter in the end 😂 I think it’s very brave of him to send the loan lads back but I back him and to be fair with the lads he signs, they’re his choices and I hope it pays off. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jan 19, 2023 22:58:02 GMT
I think the manager deserves credit. No Pre season, no transfer window apart from this one, which in hindsight is mid season and not really best timing for managers and clubs. Inherited a shite squad with no players of his choice so he’s had to make do with what he’s got from September to now. He’s stamped his authority by in this window mid season turning round and sending absolute shite transfers and loans back to where they’ve come from and told players they’re not needed (flint and bursik). In realistic terms and people might not like it but in footballing terms too, he’s not going to turn the season around really without a preseason and his own clear out, this season needs writing off and judge him from next season unless a miraculous turnaround happens and we make the play offs which would be a bonus. Unfortunately we have some of the fan base that think it’s Fifa or football manager and we miraculously should win 6-7 games on the bounce. It doesn’t work that way. Especially with a dog shit squad he’s inherited. I have full faith in this guy and he’s full of confidence when it’s going right and takes full responsibility when it goes wrong. 100% disagree hes taken results back , hes taken morale back he’s taken supporter engagement back all very an incredibly low base and done exactly what he said he wouldn’t do Suzy-rounded himself with his cronies , he is a abject disaster of an appointment as for making the play offs he might make league ine play offs but he wasn’t see championship playoff no matter how ling it lasts |
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Post by philb on Jan 19, 2023 23:00:11 GMT
Wonder what the chances of Souttar playing Saturday are? With negotiations supposedly ongoing etc I wonder if his head will be in the right place as the saying goes?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2023 23:01:43 GMT
Doesn’t make sense. We must have been compliant last season or we would have a sanction. With the Collins money and the losses from 2018/19 gone, how can we be in more trouble this season than last? We could have kept all the loan signings and been FFP compliant. The manager wants them gone so he can sign his players, that's all there is to it. I hope and think you are correct. I don't buy all this selling Souttar to fall in line with ffp. I think it's to finance the deals Neil wants to do. Probably three or four expensive loans possibly with a view to buy in the summer. |
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Post by philb on Jan 19, 2023 23:02:40 GMT
Have we signed anyone yet? Come back in around 11 days time and you may have an answer 😉 |
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Post by LGH87 on Jan 19, 2023 23:05:17 GMT
We’re going down if we don’t do anything. GK, DM & ST bare minimum to stay in this league. We’d need a centre half of Harry were to go too. We’ll be operating to different FFP rules if we go down so it won’t matter in the end 😂 I think it’s very brave of him to send the loan lads back but I back him and to be fair with the lads he signs, they’re his choices and I hope it pays off. I’m reserving judgement until we see who he brings in but I’m struggling to think of who could be available who will give us the improvement we need. Any idea at all on any incomings? |
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Post by tony10 on Jan 19, 2023 23:07:41 GMT
Alex is definitely putting his stamp on the horrid 💩 show
Smallbone can be the next one for me.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 19, 2023 23:15:31 GMT
We could have kept all the loan signings and been FFP compliant. The manager wants them gone so he can sign his players, that's all there is to it. I hope and think you are correct. I don't buy all this selling Souttar to fall in line with ffp. I think it's to finance the deals Neil wants to do. Probably three or four expensive loans possibly with a view to buy in the summer. Harry has only just bought a new house in the area and is settled so any move would have to be commutable. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 19, 2023 23:25:21 GMT
It would help if he was English. He’s classed as HG I’m sure. As he was with us before his 18th birthday. Ah right, nice one. |
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Post by st3mark on Jan 19, 2023 23:33:38 GMT
Wonder what the chances of Souttar playing Saturday are? With negotiations supposedly ongoing etc I wonder if his head will be in the right place as the saying goes? Haven't seen any evidence that any of their heads have been in the right place for 5 years. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2023 23:36:53 GMT
I hope and think you are correct. I don't buy all this selling Souttar to fall in line with ffp. I think it's to finance the deals Neil wants to do. Probably three or four expensive loans possibly with a view to buy in the summer. Harry has only just bought a new house in the area and is settled so any move would have to be commutable. Funnily enough I live quite near to Harry and have to go to Leicester three or four times a year. Sat nav says 80 mins but often takes over two hours. Wouldn't fancy that journey every day. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2023 23:45:35 GMT
For Iverson and a decent fee , I am happy for him to go .
I can see why people, might think he could potentially be a good player in a different team, surrounded by better players.
But he is not that great for us , he's not Mr Stoke
Take someone like Mr Brighton, Lewis Dunk , he's been there forever, it's his home town club and he is always a steady 7 out of ten for them , in the championship or the prem ,year after year. He is massive player for them , even though he is miles away from being one of their most talented players these days.
Souttar is not that player , he is okay but unlike Dennis Smith , Andy Wilkinson and co , he is not Mr Stoke . I think he can play better in a better team and if we can bag a top goalie and millions of pounds from giving him his chance , it's happy days all round.
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Post by chopperscfc on Jan 19, 2023 23:47:13 GMT
Harry has only just bought a new house in the area and is settled so any move would have to be commutable. Funnily enough I live quite near to Harry and have to go to Leicester three or four times a year. Sat nav says 80 mins but often takes over two hours. Wouldn't fancy that journey every day. I don’t think moving house and commutable journeys would make a difference when there’s a premier league team and multi million pound contract involved. It could be Southampton or Newcastle. He’d still go either way and move if the deal was right, it’s the premier league he wants and he’s not going to get it with stoke within the next few years. |
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Post by chopperscfc on Jan 19, 2023 23:53:10 GMT
We could have kept all the loan signings and been FFP compliant. The manager wants them gone so he can sign his players, that's all there is to it. I hope and think you are correct. I don't buy all this selling Souttar to fall in line with ffp. I think it's to finance the deals Neil wants to do. Probably three or four expensive loans possibly with a view to buy in the summer. I think selling Souttar would just suit the whole business. Whether It helps more with FFP I don’t know with income but also funds Neil for transfers like you say. So all round good deal for the club if we get the right money. |
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Post by thewonderstuff on Jan 19, 2023 23:56:35 GMT
Not sorry to see any of them go but this is a fair gap to fill with what currently looks like the square root of fuck all coming in. Particularly with the other rumours about outgoings floating about.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2023 0:04:40 GMT
I hope and think you are correct. I don't buy all this selling Souttar to fall in line with ffp. I think it's to finance the deals Neil wants to do. Probably three or four expensive loans possibly with a view to buy in the summer. Harry has only just bought a new house in the area and is settled so any move would have to be commutable. I love your thinking and I am glad your glass is half full. But I am fairly sure if Harry went to Leicester his wages would be big enough for him to buy another house in Leicester and just rent out the Stoke one . I am going back a bit , but I can remember Robbie Fowler scoring for Liverpool and the Kop all singing ( to the tune of the Beatles yellow Submarine) ' we all live in a Robbie Fowler house, a Robbie Fowler house etc . I reckon if Robbie Fowler can afford half of Merseyside then Harry can probably manage a house in Leicester. |
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Post by southcoaststokie on Jan 20, 2023 0:31:30 GMT
Who’s going to be rocking up before midday to play tomorrow, Stoke like a Friday signing or two
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jan 20, 2023 0:52:04 GMT
Harry has only just bought a new house in the area and is settled so any move would have to be commutable. I love your thinking and I am glad your glass is half full. But I am fairly sure if Harry went to Leicester his wages would be big enough for him to buy another house in Leicester and just rent out the Stoke one . I am going back a bit , but I can remember Robbie Fowler scoring for Liverpool and the Kop all singing ( to the tune of the Beatles yellow Submarine) ' we all live in a Robbie Fowler house, a Robbie Fowler house etc . I reckon if Robbie Fowler can afford half of Merseyside then Harry can probably manage a house in Leicester. We'll be having no rentals on this estate thank you 😉 |
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Post by callas12 on Jan 20, 2023 1:00:02 GMT
Wonder what the chances of Souttar playing Saturday are? With negotiations supposedly ongoing etc I wonder if his head will be in the right place as the saying goes? Aside from where Harry's head is at, would the club be willing to risk a potential deal for him being scuppered by an injury?! If his sale is key for the benefit of our FFP situation, or to allow AN some funds to rebuild. Be a big risk to play him if things are so finally balanced and he's pivotal to our immediate future. It's likely the 'Harry's picked up a niggle & isn't able to be selected' line may be wheeled out come 2pm on Saturday. |
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Post by David Brent on Jan 20, 2023 3:03:13 GMT
Financial FairPlay is the biggest joke I’ve ever seen
Where’s the FairPlay in Chelsea spending 600 million in 6 months? Yet we can’t spend a penny
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Jan 20, 2023 5:38:04 GMT
Financial FairPlay is the biggest joke I’ve ever seen Where’s the FairPlay in Chelsea spending 600 million in 6 months? Yet we can’t spend a penny it’s totally wrong |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2023 6:23:14 GMT
Financial FairPlay is the biggest joke I’ve ever seen Where’s the FairPlay in Chelsea spending 600 million in 6 months? Yet we can’t spend a penny What’s the worst that could happen if we don’t meet the rules ? Point deduction or fine ? If it’s only a fine surely we should just buy whoever we want and take the hit if it means staying up. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2023 6:35:07 GMT
Who’s going to be rocking up before midday to play tomorrow, Stoke like a Friday signing or two The Spanish lad we've been tracking since the start of the window. Dirt cheap he is. Noah Juan. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 20, 2023 6:43:53 GMT
Financial FairPlay is the biggest joke I’ve ever seen Where’s the FairPlay in Chelsea spending 600 million in 6 months? Yet we can’t spend a penny We know the rules. We only have ourselves to blame. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 20, 2023 7:02:19 GMT
Who’s going to be rocking up before midday to play tomorrow, Stoke like a Friday signing or two The Spanish lad we've been tracking since the start of the window. Dirt cheap he is. Noah Juan. Position? |
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