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Post by Sven on Jan 19, 2023 21:09:10 GMT
We're been played like a fiddle Because we turned their bid down? no just in general, other teams know our financial position, know we are currently up shit creek without a paddle and are taking full advantage, cant blame them either. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 19, 2023 21:26:54 GMT
Because we turned their bid down? no just in general, other teams know our financial position, know we are currently up shit creek without a paddle and are taking full advantage, cant blame them either. But saying they've played us like fiddle would suggest we fell for it and they got what they wanted, we didn't and turned it down. |
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Jan 19, 2023 21:27:17 GMT
Looking like Anthony Gordon's off to Newcastle.
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Post by retrostoke on Jan 19, 2023 21:28:54 GMT
Because we turned their bid down? no just in general, other teams know our financial position, know we are currently up shit creek without a paddle and are taking full advantage, cant blame them either. On which deal have we been shafted. I haven’t seen one |
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Post by Sven on Jan 19, 2023 21:29:30 GMT
no just in general, other teams know our financial position, know we are currently up shit creek without a paddle and are taking full advantage, cant blame them either. But saying they've played us like fiddle would suggest we fell for it and they got what they wanted, we didn't and turned it down. im not just on about souttar |
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Post by retrostoke on Jan 19, 2023 21:31:19 GMT
But saying they've played us like fiddle would suggest we fell for it and they got what they wanted, we didn't and turned it down. im not just on about souttar Which one then 🤔 |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 19, 2023 21:31:47 GMT
But saying they've played us like fiddle would suggest we fell for it and they got what they wanted, we didn't and turned it down. im not just on about souttar Who else? We wanted rid of the loans and they look to be going, Bursik was always going to be a low fee as he clearly wasn't wanted and probably wanted away anyway and there's been nothing else. |
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Post by chopperscfc on Jan 19, 2023 21:34:24 GMT
Oh and we’ve absolutely fucked it with FFO unless we sell souttar too How have we done that? We appear to have complied last season and 2018/19 when we lost close to the max drops out of the calculation and we have the Collins money and most of our big transfer values were written off. We must have a budget of over £40 million including £13 million of allowable losses. Hard to see how we would overspend, might be tight but not catastrophic It’s not catastrophic no, but it’s not the best and to sell Harry would be beneficial on all parties and help out balance the books for future business too. To be quite honest I don’t really know much more but from what I’m told it’s better to sell Harry now or summer due to FFP |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 19, 2023 21:35:07 GMT
im not just on about souttar Which one then 🤔 When did we last actually receive a disappointing fee for a player? Bego or N'Zonzi as far as I can recall. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 19, 2023 21:36:09 GMT
When did we last actually receive a disappointing fee for a player? Bego or N'Zonzi as far as I can recall. That was only disappointing if you ignore the fact their contracts were up and wanted to go. |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 19, 2023 21:39:17 GMT
How have we done that? We appear to have complied last season and 2018/19 when we lost close to the max drops out of the calculation and we have the Collins money and most of our big transfer values were written off. We must have a budget of over £40 million including £13 million of allowable losses. Hard to see how we would overspend, might be tight but not catastrophic It’s not catastrophic no, but it’s not the best and to sell Harry would be beneficial on all parties and help out balance the books for future business too. To be quite honest I don’t really know much more but from what I’m told it’s better to sell Harry now or summer due to FFP I don't understand that. If we can get through until the Summer without sanction how are we fucked? The situation is said to ease considerably by the Summer. Do we need money to pay Neil off? |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 19, 2023 21:41:51 GMT
When did we last actually receive a disappointing fee for a player? Bego or N'Zonzi as far as I can recall. That was only disappointing if you ignore the fact their contracts were up and wanted to go. I know that but there are posters talking like we are constantly having our pants pulled down on fees. No club had us over on those deals but the fees were disappointing for the quality of player we were losing. |
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Post by smallthorner on Jan 19, 2023 21:43:44 GMT
Because we turned their bid down? no just in general, other teams know our financial position, know we are currently up shit creek without a paddle and are taking full advantage, cant blame them either. Bang on. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 19, 2023 21:45:46 GMT
It’s not catastrophic no, but it’s not the best and to sell Harry would be beneficial on all parties and help out balance the books for future business too. To be quite honest I don’t really know much more but from what I’m told it’s better to sell Harry now or summer due to FFP I don't understand that. If we can get through until the Summer without sanction how are we fucked? The situation is said to ease considerably by the Summer Because of the £39 million in 3 seasons limit and we’re a substantial amount over that,hence the inevitable sale of Souttar to the highest bidder |
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Jan 19, 2023 21:46:24 GMT
It’s not catastrophic no, but it’s not the best and to sell Harry would be beneficial on all parties and help out balance the books for future business too. To be quite honest I don’t really know much more but from what I’m told it’s better to sell Harry now or summer due to FFP I don't understand that. If we can get through until the Summer without sanction how are we fucked? The situation is said to ease considerably by the Summer. Do we need money to pay Neil off? Depends what ...get by means. If it means shedding a load off the wage bill it could be difficult to put a team out hence....we sell Soutts rather than three others. |
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Post by lordb on Jan 19, 2023 21:47:57 GMT
It’s not catastrophic no, but it’s not the best and to sell Harry would be beneficial on all parties and help out balance the books for future business too. To be quite honest I don’t really know much more but from what I’m told it’s better to sell Harry now or summer due to FFP I don't understand that. If we can get through until the Summer without sanction how are we fucked? The situation is said to ease considerably by the Summer. Do we need money to pay Neil off? Pays offs affect FFP as such he's not going to be sacked this season |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 19, 2023 21:49:20 GMT
I don't understand that. If we can get through until the Summer without sanction how are we fucked? The situation is said to ease considerably by the Summer. Do we need money to pay Neil off? Depends what ...get by means. If it means shedding a load off the wage bill it could be difficult to put a team out hence....we sell Soutts rather than three others. God have we got 3 other players anyone would give us money for? |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 19, 2023 21:51:50 GMT
That was only disappointing if you ignore the fact their contracts were up and wanted to go. I know that but there are posters talking like we are constantly having our pants pulled down on fees. No club had us over on those deals but the fees were disappointing for the quality of player we were losing. I agree, I think he's chatting shit. |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 19, 2023 21:58:20 GMT
I don't understand that. If we can get through until the Summer without sanction how are we fucked? The situation is said to ease considerably by the Summer Because of the £39 million in 3 seasons limit and we’re a substantial amount over that,hence the inevitable sale of Souttar to the highest bidder Doesn't explain why we could get through until the Summer without selling him. If you read the thread I'm one of the few posters who is not surprised that we'd overstretched in the Summer gone and are now having to rectify the situation to avoid sanction but if we were only over by the Fosu and Sterling unplanned expenditure we should have covered that by what we've shed already in this window. With a fee for Bursik and the wages we've got rid of. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 19, 2023 22:01:04 GMT
Because of the £39 million in 3 seasons limit and we’re a substantial amount over that,hence the inevitable sale of Souttar to the highest bidder Doesn't explain why we could get through until the Summer without selling him. If you read the thread I'm one of the few posters who is not surprised that we'd overstretched in the Summer gone and are now having to rectify the situation to avoid sanction but if we were only over by the Fosu and Sterling unplanned expenditure we should have covered that by what we've shed already in this window. With a fee for Bursik and the wages we've got rid of. Mate I don’t know how it works at all regarding the figures and I’d imagine not many on here do |
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Post by BuzzB on Jan 19, 2023 22:04:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2023 22:06:00 GMT
I don't understand that. If we can get through until the Summer without sanction how are we fucked? The situation is said to ease considerably by the Summer Because of the £39 million in 3 seasons limit and we’re a substantial amount over that,hence the inevitable sale of Souttar to the highest bidder How are we substantially over? Those figures the other week don't factor in the sale of the ground or the sale of Collins etc. The guys who seem to understand accounting were saying wed be ok re ffp. Now all of a sudden it seems we need to sell Souttar just to balance the books. If this is the case and we can't bring in 3 or 4 players with that money we are in very serious trouble (even if it is only to finance higher end loans). I made a joke earlier in the day about selling Tena Lady pads because of all the moaning that we haven't made any signings yet. On second thoughts I'll keep them as I might need them myself. |
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Post by anchorman on Jan 19, 2023 22:07:03 GMT
When did we last actually receive a disappointing fee for a player? Bego or N'Zonzi as far as I can recall. Butland |
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Post by smallthorner on Jan 19, 2023 22:08:40 GMT
We're in the shite.
Alex has got to keep us up with the squad we've got plus a couple of no marks signed next week.
What a clusterfuck.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jan 19, 2023 22:11:11 GMT
Have we signed anyone yet?
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Post by chopperscfc on Jan 19, 2023 22:14:47 GMT
It’s not catastrophic no, but it’s not the best and to sell Harry would be beneficial on all parties and help out balance the books for future business too. To be quite honest I don’t really know much more but from what I’m told it’s better to sell Harry now or summer due to FFP I don't understand that. If we can get through until the Summer without sanction how are we fucked? The situation is said to ease considerably by the Summer. Do we need money to pay Neil off? The message I got was, we need to sell by the summer for FFP |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2023 22:15:14 GMT
When did we last actually receive a disappointing fee for a player? Bego or N'Zonzi as far as I can recall. Butland We were lucky to get rid of his wages in the end. We should have sold him while his stock was high before his injury but hindsight is a wonderful thing. |
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Post by mattythestokie on Jan 19, 2023 22:15:37 GMT
How have we done that? We appear to have complied last season and 2018/19 when we lost close to the max drops out of the calculation and we have the Collins money and most of our big transfer values were written off. We must have a budget of over £40 million including £13 million of allowable losses. Hard to see how we would overspend, might be tight but not catastrophic It’s not catastrophic no, but it’s not the best and to sell Harry would be beneficial on all parties and help out balance the books for future business too. To be quite honest I don’t really know much more but from what I’m told it’s better to sell Harry now or summer due to FFP Don’t even want him stay. The guy is a class act and deserves to be playing football at a much better team/league than us. Go and get your move, H as well as a bit of cash for us. |
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Post by clarkeda on Jan 19, 2023 22:24:31 GMT
Is he the guy that moved from Man City and breaks all sorts of daft goal scoring records? |
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Post by clarkeda on Jan 19, 2023 22:37:08 GMT
The offer of 10 million is another sign that being a Stoke player seems to knock the value down by 50 to 60 percent It would help if he was English. He’s classed as HG I’m sure. As he was with us before his 18th birthday. |
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