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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2023 19:06:42 GMT
If we get Iverson at the same time as Souttar leaves , I think that will be a step forward for us .
Hopefully a deal can be done.
But you can imagine why Leicester might like having 2 good goalies on their books.
We preferred having 2 good goalies ( bego and sorro ) a lot more than having none ( where we are now )
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Post by roylandstoke on Jan 19, 2023 19:06:44 GMT
Selling our best prospect for less than we paid for Benik Adobe would be criminal.
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Post by nott1 on Jan 19, 2023 19:07:32 GMT
I don't see a clamour of clubs trumping Leicester! Clearly you know more than I do about other Prem teams interests, I can only go off rumors, one of which stated Wolves and West Ham were interested as well. Let's see the colour of their money then. |
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Post by nott1 on Jan 19, 2023 19:09:12 GMT
Selling our best prospect for less than we paid for Benik Adobe would be criminal. Paying what we did for HIM was the criminal bit! |
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Post by a on Jan 19, 2023 19:09:29 GMT
Quite a way off the £30-40mil some thought he’d fetch 🤣 Is he really worth much more than they offered? I doubt it! No but listening to some of the valuations on here he’s worth that. I think realistically £15-18m is top end of what we can expect. I think £12-15m with addons is what we’ll see. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 19, 2023 19:12:53 GMT
Clearly you know more than I do about other Prem teams interests, I can only go off rumors, one of which stated Wolves and West Ham were interested as well. Let's see the colour of their money then. Hopefully we will, if not and the Leicester bid is all we get it'll be good to see him stay. |
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Post by nott1 on Jan 19, 2023 19:14:38 GMT
Is he really worth much more than they offered? I doubt it! No but listening to some of the valuations on here he’s worth that. I think realistically £15-18m is top end of what we can expect. I think £12-15m with addons is what we’ll see. Seems like that is what Stoke are angling for. I'd snap their hands off for that. |
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Post by northernstokie on Jan 19, 2023 19:16:03 GMT
Iverson is likely the key component of this happening Not at £7m. Where is that figure from. I thought they wanted £3m |
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Post by greyface on Jan 19, 2023 19:17:16 GMT
Iverson is likely the key component of this happening Not at £7m. They’re not thick though, they know we’re in desperate need to sell before we can buy, and they also know we’re in desperate need of a keeper. They hold all the cards. Doubt we will see any more than 10m plus Iversen and I think we’d be lucky to get that. |
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Post by 1982stokie on Jan 19, 2023 19:17:19 GMT
The offer of 10 million is another sign that being a Stoke player seems to knock the value down by 50 to 60 percent I don't think it is. I just think he's massively overrated on here. Maybe, but obviously rated high enough for a premier league side to move for him, and absolutely bang average player move for more than that regularly |
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Post by Sven on Jan 19, 2023 19:19:36 GMT
We're been played like a fiddle
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Post by peterthornesboots on Jan 19, 2023 19:22:09 GMT
If Souttar goes, then Iverson HAS to be part of the deal.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 19, 2023 19:23:06 GMT
We're been played like a fiddle Because we turned their bid down? |
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Post by Fred Merger on Jan 19, 2023 19:28:16 GMT
No but listening to some of the valuations on here he’s worth that. I think realistically £15-18m is top end of what we can expect. I think £12-15m with addons is what we’ll see. Seems like that is what Stoke are angling for. I'd snap their hands off for that. Something like 12 million plus Iverson sounds likely to me. |
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Post by shakermaker on Jan 19, 2023 19:29:35 GMT
How can we sell Souttar when we are in a relegation scrap, we are near bottom of the championship ffs. if the club are relying on the Souttar deal to bring players in then we are well and truly fucked. In our position and with this window, what player of any caliber is going to come to stoke. We need Souttar here to give us a chance of surviving Souttar isn't good enough to keep this squad up. In fact no one CB is - we need some major surgery just to give us a fighting chance and the only way we can do that is by having the money for Souttar to spend. His performances in the World Cup were remarkable for a relatively inexperienced CB recovering from a major injury. His performances for us since his return have been what you would expect of a relatively inexperienced CB recovering from a major injury - a bit shaky. A Premier League club is going to have the time and patience to ease him back to his full potential. We don't have that luxury. In addition to dump that level of expectation and responsibility on a lad recovering from injury and learning his trade would be irresponsible and at the same time denying him a move to a Premier League club is from the Roy Keane school of motivational management. Pinning our hopes on Souttar is just dewey eyed wishful thinking. Sounds great but its a really bad idea if you take away the sentiment. But conversely, we’re just as worse off if we have money to buy a keeper but then no decent defender in front of him. When we sell Harry, we get a load of money but also our best player (and only decent defender) gone. We then l have to not only service other parts of the team like GK, DM and FWD, but we also have to buy a decent CB to replace Harry. There surely has to be a cutoff by which he either goes or stays, cos if he goes with only a week of the window left then there’s little chance we will replace Harry with the same quality… and even then, will anyone decent want to come to us in our predicament? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2023 19:30:24 GMT
The offer of 10 million is another sign that being a Stoke player seems to knock the value do wn by 50 to 60 percent I don't think it is. I just think he's massively overrated on here. I agree I don't think he has the same potential as Collins. I've always thought £10 million would be good business. Worryingly though if Chopper is right and we're screwed if we don't sell him that suggests we won't be spending all of it anyway. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 19, 2023 19:30:34 GMT
I don't think it is. I just think he's massively overrated on here. Maybe, but obviously rated high enough for a premier league side to move for him, and absolutely bang average player move for more than that regularly He should be fine in the PL so that's no surprise. Any talk over 20m is laughable imo. |
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Post by sportsman on Jan 19, 2023 19:31:17 GMT
Where is that figure from. I thought they wanted £3m The travellers rest I think. |
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Post by Gods on Jan 19, 2023 19:31:25 GMT
I think the manager deserves credit. No Pre season, no transfer window apart from this one, which in hindsight is mid season and not really best timing for managers and clubs. Inherited a shite squad with no players of his choice so he’s had to make do with what he’s got from September to now. He’s stamped his authority by in this window mid season turning round and sending absolute shite transfers and loans back to where they’ve come from and told players they’re not needed (flint and bursik). In realistic terms and people might not like it but in footballing terms too, he’s not going to turn the season around really without a preseason and his own clear out, this season needs writing off and judge him from next season unless a miraculous turnaround happens and we make the play offs which would be a bonus. Unfortunately we have some of the fan base that think it’s Fifa or football manager and we miraculously should win 6-7 games on the bounce. It doesn’t work that way. Especially with a dog shit squad he’s inherited. I have full faith in this guy and he’s full of confidence when it’s going right and takes full responsibility when it goes wrong. I think he's had a nightmare mate. Presided over a disastrous set of results while pissing just about everyone off! |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 19, 2023 19:31:38 GMT
Hamza Choudhury would be nice as well, currently out of the team at Watford and out of contract in the summer.......
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Post by 1982stokie on Jan 19, 2023 19:32:23 GMT
Maybe, but obviously rated high enough for a premier league side to move for him, and absolutely bang average player move for more than that regularly He should be fine in the PL so that's no surprise. Any talk over 20m is laughable imo. I have to disagree I think 20 million plus 5 million in add on seems reasonable |
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Post by J-Roar on Jan 19, 2023 19:35:58 GMT
He should be fine in the PL so that's no surprise. Any talk over 20m is laughable imo. I have to disagree I think 20 million plus 5 million in add on seems reasonable Dream on. |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Jan 19, 2023 19:36:49 GMT
Hamza Choudhury would be nice as well, currently out of the team at Watford and out of contract in the summer....... Really rated him when he was at Leicester. |
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Post by chopperscfc on Jan 19, 2023 19:37:14 GMT
Fantastic to see financial mismanagement at the club in full swing. Souttar for £10m, if he goes for that, is absolutely fucking criminal. And if our FFP positions forces us to, we need to take a long, hard look at ourselves for spunking money up the wall.
We've turned it down apparently. We could do with other interested parties getting involved now. I’m hearing £10m up front plus add on gets him. |
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Post by peterthornesboots on Jan 19, 2023 19:37:54 GMT
Maybe, but obviously rated high enough for a premier league side to move for him, and absolutely bang average player move for more than that regularly He should be fine in the PL so that's no surprise. Any talk over 20m is laughable imo. I think anywhere between £12 million and £15 million would be realistic. Bearing in mind that Souttar is an untried entity in the top flight and has only recently come back from a serious injury. If Leicester want to throw in a player or two to sweeten the deal then that would be lovely! 😂 |
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Post by nonameface on Jan 19, 2023 19:38:39 GMT
Maybe, but obviously rated high enough for a premier league side to move for him, and absolutely bang average player move for more than that regularly He should be fine in the PL so that's no surprise. Any talk over 20m is laughable imo. Only really possible if there were to be a bidding war, which at this stage looks highly unlikely, although the teams mentioned may go in late if they think bringing him in keeps premier League revenue. A fee between £10-20m in addition to addons/sell percentages/ player swaps could still be attractive if we get the right players in. This website seems to think another bid maybe soon, potentially creeping up to £20m. 🤞 footballleagueworld.co.uk/stoke-city-respond-to-10m-leicester-city-transfer-offer/amp/ |
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Post by Wizbit on Jan 19, 2023 19:40:05 GMT
I think the commemts chopper made earlier are the most sensible for a while , the whole place and squad was a mess and hes starting to sort it out yes it would be better if we had more points but it needed sorting so now he has started and ues some of it may seem weird and.no it wont happen as quick as we want but thats the situation hopefully brighter days ahead but its gonna be hard and we all need to pull together
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Post by brumstokie on Jan 19, 2023 19:53:20 GMT
Are Dundee United due any percentage of the profit on a Souttar sale ?
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Post by eriksson74 on Jan 19, 2023 19:53:30 GMT
I don't think it is. I just think he's massively overrated on here. I agree I don't think he has the same potential as Collins. I've always thought £10 million would be good business. Worryingly though if Chopper is right and we're screwed if we don't sell him that suggests we won't be spending all of it anyway. If we get £10m, I think we have done well to be honest. I can see him pinging a few crossfield balls now and then, looking good, but do7ng a job as a defender, I wouldn't be excited if I was a Leicester fan. If the cash stops a points deduction, certain relegation and transfer embargo, it's essential. He would leave with thanks and done his job, having been developed and moved on, and shows an element of the Club has worked. |
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Post by robrigo on Jan 19, 2023 19:53:49 GMT
We've turned it down apparently. We could do with other interested parties getting involved now. I’m hearing £10m up front plus add on gets him. Any idea if their keeper will be part of the deal mate? |
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