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Post by Maccasbarmyarmy on Jan 16, 2023 21:46:13 GMT
We have no money so what’s the plan with that scouting mission Didn't we get a useful amount for Bursik? Who knows how much we got?? |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 16, 2023 21:49:14 GMT
 Is it their director of football, Flitcroft, they're sitting next to? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2023 21:49:45 GMT
Is it their director of football, Flitcroft, they're sitting next to? Yes that's David Flitcroft. |
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Post by chigstoke on Jan 16, 2023 21:49:56 GMT
Weren't Posh looking for £7-8m for Clarke-Harris last season? I really struggle to see how we can afford him. He's on the last year and half of his deal I think but I just struggle to see how we afford him. I can't see the Bursik fee being enough to cover any decent amount of the transfer fee he'd cost?
Even if it was JCH we looked at on that as well, which personally I can't see.
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Post by gogogadget on Jan 16, 2023 21:53:16 GMT
This time next year, we will be in the play offs Alex Neil as manager, Atmosphere excellent Away day’s bouncing what in league one? Yes Ron |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 16, 2023 21:58:17 GMT
Is it their director of football, Flitcroft, they're sitting next to? Yes that's David Flitcroft. You sure mate? When he was talking during the first 15 minutes of commentary he had a different jacket on to that and no glasses🤔 |
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Post by lordb on Jan 16, 2023 22:00:06 GMT
Football manager watching the only match on tonight
Not newsworthy
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Post by chigstoke on Jan 16, 2023 22:02:33 GMT
Yes that's David Flitcroft. You sure mate? When he was talking during the first 15 minutes of commentary he had a different jacket on to that and no glasses🤔 Positive ID confirmed there, 100% match
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 16, 2023 22:06:04 GMT
Neil is there to seal the DWP loan deal………
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2023 22:06:55 GMT
Could it be someone from Vale?
Genuinely don't know if they've got any who might be worth a punt.
Forrester? 😂😂😂
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 16, 2023 22:49:22 GMT
We have no money so what’s the plan with that scouting mission Planning for the future hopefully. |
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Post by Marc01 on Jan 16, 2023 23:02:26 GMT
Is it their director of football, Flitcroft, they're sitting next to? What’s so funny? 🤭 |
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Post by Marc01 on Jan 16, 2023 23:15:47 GMT
Or they don’t and they establish themselves like Palace Nine seasons in the top flight with no top 10 finishes which isn't as good as our run. After a 0–1 away defeat in the first match at Liverpool (SJW missed pen), the first home match of Mark Hughes era was a 2-1 win against newly promoted Palace. It was our 6th season in the PL. The last match of our 10 years in the PL was a home defeat against Palace. They finished 11 points clear of Stoke that season, despite losing their first 7 games without scoring a single goal! Five years on they’re still there. In all their previous four stints in PL, they’ve had four immediate relegations. |
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Post by ibby on Jan 16, 2023 23:39:59 GMT
Clarke Harris ?
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Post by camstoke10 on Jan 17, 2023 0:08:13 GMT
At the weekend, he seemed to be in a No 10 hole all by himself rather than as an out-and-out attacking midfielder, and he's a lost lamb in that kind of position. I agree though he'd have been better further back in Baker's position as a box-to-box DM, but Neil seems to prefer Baker there. Interestingly, even though Baker was further back he had slightly more touches in the attacking third than Laurent did. I just don't think Laurent will get a chance in DM because of Baker, and I don't think AN thinks they can play together as a double-act in holding midfield either. AN 100% moved Baker further forward at HT > when we had the ball he pretty much at number 9 without the ball he dropped back suited him miles better, he linked up with Powell well, the play was in their half. Laurent & Thompson & to a lesser extent Baker first half were supposed to be providing a defensive screen which all 3 were woeful at & none contributed with the ball either plus 3 shocking set pieces from Baker & Thompson second half Thompson was playing DM and put in two great tackles, passed the ball well, Laurent was making box to box runs with the ball & we dominated the half, Blades had just two attacks of note that half, we were the better side, it was like we had 3 completely different players from HT If those 3 are playing together that has to be how they play, starting v Reading next week He hasnt mate tuanzebe was on loan at Napoli last season he’s back at United, was injured a couple of months ago but I think he’s fine now and dubravka is also back at newcaske so darlow is 3rd choice |
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Post by camstoke10 on Jan 17, 2023 0:12:14 GMT
I suggested him yesterday, I think he would be a good signing tbh, post below yours is what I think we could do if we did sell harry |
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Post by callas12 on Jan 17, 2023 1:18:07 GMT
Is it their director of football, Flitcroft, they're sitting next to? What’s so funny? 🤭 Possibly the moment Vale went 0-2 down?! 😉🤣 |
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Post by s7oke on Jan 17, 2023 4:41:17 GMT
Possibly the moment Vale went 0-2 down?! 😉🤣 Or he’s just realising that we may not be the worst team in the city |
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Post by thevoid on Jan 17, 2023 6:39:47 GMT
Football manager watching the only match on tonight Not newsworthy I'm sure he can afford Sky |
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Post by thevoid on Jan 17, 2023 6:41:11 GMT
We have no money so what’s the plan with that scouting mission We have money. Sick of pointing this out |
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Post by thevoid on Jan 17, 2023 7:06:54 GMT
My god it’s grim. No sign of a transfer, three losses on the bounce and a manager who in 4 months has had next to zero impact if not made us slightly worse. Only at Stoke It's not only at Stoke, loads of teams get in these downward spirals. Leeds and Sunderland not so long ago, Sheff Wednesday, Ipswich and many more. If we get out of it without going into league one we will have done well. Things change very quickly in football. Ten years from now today's golden boys Brentford and Brighton will probably be back in the lower leagues. A few bad decisions and it can go tits up very quickly. It goes wrong for everyone apart from the elite five or six teams eventually and even they have relatively baron patches. How do you explain Burnley? Are they on a different rotation than us on the made up circular thingy? |
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jan 17, 2023 7:53:51 GMT
It's not only at Stoke, loads of teams get in these downward spirals. Leeds and Sunderland not so long ago, Sheff Wednesday, Ipswich and many more. If we get out of it without going into league one we will have done well. Things change very quickly in football. Ten years from now today's golden boys Brentford and Brighton will probably be back in the lower leagues. A few bad decisions and it can go tits up very quickly. It goes wrong for everyone apart from the elite five or six teams eventually and even they have relatively baron patches. How do you explain Burnley? Are they on a different rotation than us on the made up circular thingy? Teams operate on different timelines. There are now 7 bulletproof teams in the PL and only incompetence is stopping West Ham (50k+ capacity stadium & London based) and Everton with the money they have spent joining this group. With 3 teams relegated, it is almost inevitable the other teams will drop down at some point as teams have to be rebuilt - this is where the cycle originated from. Southampton, Leicester and Palace are all at this point currently.. How clubs handle that shift is key - get it wrong and overspend and the risk of a downward spiral is high. Burnley have always been ready to be relegated and never really aspired to crack the elite. Stoke City’s demise can be traced to the attempt to run the club with less owner finance in the early part of the Hughes era. It seemed to work but we were letting the squad age and were exposed to a key player like Arnie leaving. Our response was to spend high in a short period which was a gamble that failed |
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Post by clarkeda on Jan 17, 2023 8:03:55 GMT
Is it their director of football, Flitcroft, they're sitting next to? Maybe they’re not scouting and just getting advice on how to run the club |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 17, 2023 8:08:08 GMT
How do you explain Burnley? Are they on a different rotation than us on the made up circular thingy? Teams operate on different timelines. There are now 7 bulletproof teams in the PL and only incompetence is stopping West Ham (50k+ capacity stadium & London based) and Everton with the money they have spent joining this group. With 3 teams relegated, it is almost inevitable the other teams will drop down at some point as teams have to be rebuilt - this is where the cycle originated from. Southampton, Leicester and Palace are all at this point currently.. How clubs handle that shift is key - get it wrong and overspend and the risk of a downward spiral is high. Burnley have always been ready to be relegated and never really aspired to crack the elite. Stoke City’s demise can be traced to the attempt to run the club with less owner finance in the early part of the Hughes era. It seemed to work but we were letting the squad age and were exposed to a key player like Arnie leaving. Our response was to spend high in a short period which was a gamble that failed If we'd reinvested the Arnie money sensibly we wouldn't have been relegated. |
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Post by nott1 on Jan 17, 2023 8:08:26 GMT
When you think things couldn't get any worse someone always has the answer. You think AN is better eh? Better tell Everton and Leics. |
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Post by LGH87 on Jan 17, 2023 8:13:02 GMT
Wonder what today will bring, probably a fat load of absolutely nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2023 8:13:45 GMT
It's not only at Stoke, loads of teams get in these downward spirals. Leeds and Sunderland not so long ago, Sheff Wednesday, Ipswich and many more. If we get out of it without going into league one we will have done well. Things change very quickly in football. Ten years from now today's golden boys Brentford and Brighton will probably be back in the lower leagues. A few bad decisions and it can go tits up very quickly. It goes wrong for everyone apart from the elite five or six teams eventually and even they have relatively baron patches. How do you explain Burnley? Are they on a different rotation than us on the made up circular thingy? We made catastrophic errors in the transfer market, Burnley didn't. Any team that invests close on £100 million in two seasons with next to no resale value on any of those players combined with their massive wages is going to find it difficult to bounce back quickly. |
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Post by nott1 on Jan 17, 2023 8:21:35 GMT
Knowing Stoke we are swapping Harry for Clarke-Harris.
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Post by nott1 on Jan 17, 2023 8:27:58 GMT
Is it their director of football, Flitcroft, they're sitting next to? our next one? |
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jan 17, 2023 8:46:48 GMT
Clarke-Harris couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo when Peterborough were in the championship.
So no doubt he’s our number one target.
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