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Post by lordb on Jan 16, 2023 14:14:50 GMT
Still no Stoke link, I'm extremely surprised. why are you surprised? is he on a free? no.
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Post by Fred Merger on Jan 16, 2023 14:15:42 GMT
Why is he ace? Can't say I noticed when we played them. Yes I know he scored, so did Jacob Brown 14 times last season he's still toss. This is what worries me. Is this really our master plan? Wait until the last 48 hours of the window, rush through a sale of Souttar for probably less than he's worth, then get Stewart in for a massively inflated price. Jesus wept. If we did get Stewart,and that's a big if. You could almost guarantee that he would end up getting a serious injury within a few matches. It's absolutely nailed on!
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Post by shakermaker on Jan 16, 2023 14:17:07 GMT
If anything, it seemed like Laurent was hung out to dry in a pseudo No 10 role where he was out of his depth. He would have been better alongside Thompson, but Baker was given that box-to-box role instead for which he returned just two lame shots at goal. Baker just seems undroppable for some reason, maybe just because he's captain because his performance certainly don't warrant it. He's not really out of his depth as an AM either he played the majority of the season there at Reading last season. He was not adjudged to have had as successful a season as the previous one where he played mainly as a DM and won their player of the season. He's also played games professionally at CB so he's extrememly versatile and defensively aware and has all the tools to be an excellent DM at this level. At the weekend, he seemed to be in a No 10 hole all by himself rather than as an out-and-out attacking midfielder, and he's a lost lamb in that kind of position. I agree though he'd have been better further back in Baker's position as a box-to-box DM, but Neil seems to prefer Baker there. Interestingly, even though Baker was further back he had slightly more touches in the attacking third than Laurent did. I just don't think Laurent will get a chance in DM because of Baker, and I don't think AN thinks they can play together as a double-act in holding midfield either.
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Post by lordb on Jan 16, 2023 14:24:37 GMT
He's not really out of his depth as an AM either he played the majority of the season there at Reading last season. He was not adjudged to have had as successful a season as the previous one where he played mainly as a DM and won their player of the season. He's also played games professionally at CB so he's extrememly versatile and defensively aware and has all the tools to be an excellent DM at this level. At the weekend, he seemed to be in a No 10 hole all by himself rather than as an out-and-out attacking midfielder, and he's a lost lamb in that kind of position. I agree though he'd have been better further back in Baker's position as a box-to-box DM, but Neil seems to prefer Baker there. Interestingly, even though Baker was further back he had slightly more touches in the attacking third than Laurent did. I just don't think Laurent will get a chance in DM because of Baker, and I don't think AN thinks they can play together as a double-act in holding midfield either. AN 100% moved Baker further forward at HT > when we had the ball he pretty much at number 9 without the ball he dropped back suited him miles better, he linked up with Powell well, the play was in their half. Laurent & Thompson & to a lesser extent Baker first half were supposed to be providing a defensive screen which all 3 were woeful at & none contributed with the ball either plus 3 shocking set pieces from Baker & Thompson second half Thompson was playing DM and put in two great tackles, passed the ball well, Laurent was making box to box runs with the ball & we dominated the half, Blades had just two attacks of note that half, we were the better side, it was like we had 3 completely different players from HT If those 3 are playing together that has to be how they play, starting v Reading next week
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Post by femark on Jan 16, 2023 14:36:14 GMT
The perfect window would be Carl Darlow (loan-Newcastle) Axel tuanzebe (loan) Ben Pearson (loan) Alex Pritchard (low cost due to end of contract at end of season) Ross Stewart/Ashley barnes Or even go and get Clarke Harris from Peterborough as no risk signing Darlow seems to enjoy being back up. Tuanzebe has gone to Napoli on loan. Pearson would be a good signing, especially with the Neil link. Pritchard has never really lived up to expectations and plays more centrally (We need wingers). I'd take any strikers over ours at the minute.
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Post by march4 on Jan 16, 2023 14:46:11 GMT
We can afford it but physically can't spend outside our means. JC has had fair(recruitment) and unfair criticism(not investing), this post being one of them. Bournemouth can spend money on players because they got promoted and are reaping the rewards of the premier league riches! If they didn't make it in the first 3 years then my bet is that they would have been seriously in trouble with finances. We can't invest because of how poorly-run we are as a club. Every other club in this league has to deal with FFP too, and most didn't have the luxury of 3 years of parachute payments to help. We are not poorly run. Talk to Everton, West Brom, Derby and Notts Co fans.
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 16, 2023 14:49:19 GMT
We can't invest because of how poorly-run we are as a club. Every other club in this league has to deal with FFP too, and most didn't have the luxury of 3 years of parachute payments to help. We are not poorly run. Talk to Everton, West Brom, Derby and Notts Co fans. Oh dear.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2023 14:55:55 GMT
We can't invest because of how poorly-run we are as a club. Every other club in this league has to deal with FFP too, and most didn't have the luxury of 3 years of parachute payments to help. We are not poorly run. Talk to Everton, West Brom, Derby and Notts Co fans. The first two are above us, Derby were almost wound up a year ago and they could very reasonably be a league above us in 6 months time. Since our relegation we're the only team not to have finished in the play-offs, and we haven't even finished in the top half. In that time we have spent more than any other championship club, bar the clubs who have spent money whilst in the PL. Even if that wasn't the case, who cares how bad those 4 clubs are? We have billionaires running us from 3 9th placed finishes into League 1. It's not good enough, never mind 'what about [xyz] team who are also shit', especially when those teams are still more hopeful than we are!
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Post by thevoid on Jan 16, 2023 15:05:26 GMT
We can't invest because of how poorly-run we are as a club. Every other club in this league has to deal with FFP too, and most didn't have the luxury of 3 years of parachute payments to help. We are not poorly run. Talk to Everton, West Brom, Derby and Notts Co fans. We are not well run. Talk to Brighton, Brentford, Forest, Boro fans. See, I can pick four teams that have nothing to do with our situation arbitrarily too 👍
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Post by cheadlepotter on Jan 16, 2023 15:10:31 GMT
We can't invest because of how poorly-run we are as a club. Every other club in this league has to deal with FFP too, and most didn't have the luxury of 3 years of parachute payments to help. We are not poorly run. Talk to Everton, West Brom, Derby and Notts Co fans. Everton who have wasted lots of money and find themselves in a relegation battle? Sounds familiar. West Brom who are in the playoffs having appointed a foreign manager. I’m not sure they’d rather be in our position. Derby, though ran terribly, could well be in the division above us next season? And we’re certainly not well run either. Talk to Brentford and Brighton fans.
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Post by etebojan on Jan 16, 2023 15:14:44 GMT
Right someone must have heard some transfer rumors, chopperscfc or anyone Please ?
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Post by collo68 on Jan 16, 2023 15:20:38 GMT
BREAKING: DERBY AND BIRMINGHAM JOIN HUGILL RACE Derby County, Birmingham City and Rotherham have joined Reading in the hunt to sign Norwich City striker Jordan Hugill, sources have told FOOTBALL INSIDER. The former West Ham man, 30, is well down the pecking order at the Canaries and they are open to January offers as he is out of contract in the summer. Stoke not mentioned in the Hugill hunt. So no idea who we're looking for on our apparently measly budget. Every time he has played against us he has had a very good game. Gets the team 20 yards up the pitch as he can hold the ball up and play with his back to goal which the others cannot
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Post by stokeuk474 on Jan 16, 2023 15:21:05 GMT
I am getting quite desperate for some news. It's ridiculously quiet
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Post by stokie1947 on Jan 16, 2023 15:23:05 GMT
why not our Ryan
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 16, 2023 15:25:21 GMT
Because we just sacked our Rory. People need to stop the obsession with the old guard.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 16, 2023 15:36:43 GMT
Seems to be Champ interest in permanently signing Charlie Cresswell from Leeds. His loan at Millwall doesn't seem to have gone great, but he seemed to be on the up and regular England u21 international. Suppose it'd only be one we could look at if Souttar went anyway. We may want to stay away from former player's kids anyway after the Delap saga! www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-mans-possible-exit-georginio-rutter-delay-and-raphinha-transfer-clause-situation-3988742What's happening with Charlie Cresswell? His loan spell at Millwall has been a bit hit and miss, with form, formation and pecking order combining to restrict his Championship starts. Right now, he's out of the team and sitting on the bench. And with expressions of interest from a couple of Millwall's divisional rivals in a permanent move for the young centre-back, there are some decisions to make. Leeds are yet to recall him and won't, until such a time as a concrete offer is made that meets their valuation and meets with the approval of Cresswell and his advisors. There's Millwall to take into consideration too, because they won't be keen to lose Cresswell without getting someone in to replace him in their squad. But a permanent exit, this month, remains a possibility for the 20-year-old.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jan 16, 2023 15:37:03 GMT
I'd happily have no one previously associated with Stoke City working for the club again.
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Post by chamberlain on Jan 16, 2023 15:37:33 GMT
If FM hasn't found anything it means we arent close to any incomings
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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 16, 2023 15:52:40 GMT
Seems to be Champ interest in permanently signing Charlie Cresswell from Leeds. His loan at Millwall doesn't seem to have gone great, but he seemed to be on the up and regular England u21 international. Suppose it'd only be one we could look at if Souttar went anyway. We may want to stay away from former player's kids anyway after the Delap saga! www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-mans-possible-exit-georginio-rutter-delay-and-raphinha-transfer-clause-situation-3988742What's happening with Charlie Cresswell? His loan spell at Millwall has been a bit hit and miss, with form, formation and pecking order combining to restrict his Championship starts. Right now, he's out of the team and sitting on the bench. And with expressions of interest from a couple of Millwall's divisional rivals in a permanent move for the young centre-back, there are some decisions to make. Leeds are yet to recall him and won't, until such a time as a concrete offer is made that meets their valuation and meets with the approval of Cresswell and his advisors. There's Millwall to take into consideration too, because they won't be keen to lose Cresswell without getting someone in to replace him in their squad. But a permanent exit, this month, remains a possibility for the 20-year-old. there were hits and misses alright!. The hits being his debut, scoring 2 goals against his fathers former club. The misses were every game since then, but if he stays at Millwall there will surely be another hit coming along at the end of Feb
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Jan 16, 2023 15:56:08 GMT
A goalkeeper by the end of the week would at least be a start please!!!!!
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Post by bgreen13 on Jan 16, 2023 15:58:38 GMT
Bournemouth spending £27m on a player I've never heard of, yet Stoke can't afford to pay a player we've had on loan since August. How the fuck has it come to this? Seriously, what do the likes of John Coates seriously think about where the club is right now. Fucking Bournemouth are lightyears ahead of us right now, yet people still lick the boards arses Are you special?
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jan 16, 2023 16:00:33 GMT
I'd happily have no one previously associated with Stoke City working for the club again. Does that include within what appears to be quite a successful academy or are they exempt.
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Post by Gawa on Jan 16, 2023 16:01:38 GMT
Seems to be Champ interest in permanently signing Charlie Cresswell from Leeds. His loan at Millwall doesn't seem to have gone great, but he seemed to be on the up and regular England u21 international. Suppose it'd only be one we could look at if Souttar went anyway. We may want to stay away from former player's kids anyway after the Delap saga! www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-mans-possible-exit-georginio-rutter-delay-and-raphinha-transfer-clause-situation-3988742What's happening with Charlie Cresswell? His loan spell at Millwall has been a bit hit and miss, with form, formation and pecking order combining to restrict his Championship starts. Right now, he's out of the team and sitting on the bench. And with expressions of interest from a couple of Millwall's divisional rivals in a permanent move for the young centre-back, there are some decisions to make. Leeds are yet to recall him and won't, until such a time as a concrete offer is made that meets their valuation and meets with the approval of Cresswell and his advisors. There's Millwall to take into consideration too, because they won't be keen to lose Cresswell without getting someone in to replace him in their squad. But a permanent exit, this month, remains a possibility for the 20-year-old. Great player. Had an excellent game against us at the den on the opening day. Think he scored from a set piece too. Would be an excellent acquisition and the right age too. Can't imagine he'd come cheap though, probably out of our budget.
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Post by LGH87 on Jan 16, 2023 16:07:19 GMT
Bournemouth spending £27m on a player I've never heard of, yet Stoke can't afford to pay a player we've had on loan since August. How the fuck has it come to this? Seriously, what do the likes of John Coates seriously think about where the club is right now. Fucking Bournemouth are lightyears ahead of us right now, yet people still lick the boards arses Are you special? No mate but the fans that continue to rim the Coates' are proving to be.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jan 16, 2023 16:10:36 GMT
I'd happily have no one previously associated with Stoke City working for the club again. Does that include within what appears to be quite a successful academy or are they exempt. I'm talking about first team matters specifically but if we're talking about the academy, do we think someone who's not associated to Stoke can do the same job?
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Post by LGH87 on Jan 16, 2023 16:12:49 GMT
Does that include within what appears to be quite a successful academy or are they exempt. I'm talking about first team matters specifically but if we're talking about the academy, do we think someone who's not associated to Stoke can do the same job? The clamour for the club to be riddled with ex pro's is bizarre.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jan 16, 2023 16:15:58 GMT
Does that include within what appears to be quite a successful academy or are they exempt. I'm talking about first team matters specifically but if we're talking about the academy, do we think someone who's not associated to Stoke can do the same job? All I’m saying really is that I don’t give a monkeys whether an individual has had previous ties to the club or not. I’d prefer to consider the potential influence for improvement and the quality outcomes that may be delivered by the individual whoever their previous employers were. Perhaps I’m wrong
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 16, 2023 16:23:03 GMT
I'm talking about first team matters specifically but if we're talking about the academy, do we think someone who's not associated to Stoke can do the same job? All I’m saying really is that I don’t give a monkeys whether an individual has had previous ties to the club or not. I’d prefer to consider the potential influence for improvement and the quality outcomes that may be delivered by the individual whoever their previous employers were. Perhaps I’m wrong You're not.
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Post by Gawa on Jan 16, 2023 16:40:18 GMT
We are not poorly run. Talk to Everton, West Brom, Derby and Notts Co fans. We are not well run. Talk to Brighton, Brentford, Forest, Boro fans. See, I can pick four teams that have nothing to do with our situation arbitrarily too 👍 Forest haven't been in the PL for decades and since going up bought about 30 players which if they don't survive in the PL could end up being a huge issue for them. They've gambled. The others are pretty well run in my opinion though.
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Post by philb on Jan 16, 2023 16:44:04 GMT
For gods sake Stoke, pull your finger out! I cannot go to the ground this Saturday and watch the same useless shite I’ve been watching since the start of the season. Get some signings done otherwise we’ll be in the bottom three by 5pm! Useless f#+@=#s 😡😡😡
Ps I’m not angry at all 🤣🤣🤣
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