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Post by retrostoke on Jan 15, 2023 23:05:20 GMT
So you think there’s nowt up with the structure at the club then? Wonder how many DOF there are out there that are good. Looking over the weekend at YouTube clips of fans, social media etc let's look at who's fans are looking for a restructure of their club. Liverpool, Everton, spurs, Chelsea, west ham, Leicester, Southampton until this week, Leeds. That's just the prem. Sit in protests, death threats. Then you could probably say about 80% of the championship are not happy with their club and how it's run. I don't like the way football is going, fast. If it was possible to do, I'd have it where whatever manager you start the season with, you can't change it until at the end. That would stop the weekly moaning of nearly every club demanding 10 Managers a season like it's voting someone out of a reality show, the public have voted. I remember going stoke in the 80's and win, lose or draw, you went home, played footy the next day and pretended be a player and that was it. Of course there's always been ups and downs with all clubs, but everything is over thought nowadays by fans. Everything is one game disaster. I just keep thinking of the bigger picture of the end of the season, why AN said yes, because FFP is clearing up, players out of contract, big red build and hopefully something good to look forward to. 1969 my first season. There have been some ups and downs since 😂 So I am on season 53 now (scary thought). We have had some shit players and some shit teams, too many to remember. I have witnessed disappointment, anger, protest walks, pitch invasions, burning of scarves 😂 I have survived Kyle Lightbourne and Keith Scott. It’s all been part of supporting Stoke. We haven’t achieved much, maybe we never will. I’m running out of time to witness it that’s for sure 🫣 God knows we have had some poor managers. What I can’t get my head round though is the current level of expectation we have. The turn over of managers we want because they haven’t won at least 75% of their first 10 games. The demands to get rid of the Coates family who would probably still be ploughing millions in if it wasn’t for FFP. We are an average sized city probably sitting not too many places below our statistical norm. Don’t expect or demand promotion. Hope is what we have and patience is what we need. |
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Post by spoton on Jan 15, 2023 23:24:50 GMT
Wonder how many DOF there are out there that are good. Looking over the weekend at YouTube clips of fans, social media etc let's look at who's fans are looking for a restructure of their club. Liverpool, Everton, spurs, Chelsea, west ham, Leicester, Southampton until this week, Leeds. That's just the prem. Sit in protests, death threats. Then you could probably say about 80% of the championship are not happy with their club and how it's run. I don't like the way football is going, fast. If it was possible to do, I'd have it where whatever manager you start the season with, you can't change it until at the end. That would stop the weekly moaning of nearly every club demanding 10 Managers a season like it's voting someone out of a reality show, the public have voted. I remember going stoke in the 80's and win, lose or draw, you went home, played footy the next day and pretended be a player and that was it. Of course there's always been ups and downs with all clubs, but everything is over thought nowadays by fans. Everything is one game disaster. I just keep thinking of the bigger picture of the end of the season, why AN said yes, because FFP is clearing up, players out of contract, big red build and hopefully something good to look forward to. 1969 my first season. There have been some ups and downs since 😂 So I am on season 53 now (scary thought). We have had some shit players and some shit teams, too many to remember. I have witnessed disappointment, anger, protest walks, pitch invasions, burning of scarves 😂 I have survived Kyle Lightbourne and Keith Scott. It’s all been part of supporting Stoke. We haven’t achieved much, maybe we never will. I’m running out of time to witness it that’s for sure 🫣 God knows we have had some poor managers. What I can’t get my head round though is the current level of expectation we have. The turn over of managers we want because they haven’t won at least 75% of their first 10 games. The demands to get rid of the Coates family who would probably still be ploughing millions in if it wasn’t for FFP. We are an average sized city probably sitting not too many places below our statistical norm. Don’t expect or demand promotion. Hope is what we have and patience is what we need. interesting thought's I to am the wrong side of 60 but I personally expect better than what we have achieved by a long way,I have always judged Stoke the same as Wolves similar population,sited near larger clubs and they have seemed to have achieved far more than us,,,so its about time Stoke started to up their achievements |
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Post by retrostoke on Jan 15, 2023 23:28:45 GMT
We’ve just done 10 years in the Premiership. They won’t. How are they doing more than us. Football is cyclical. They will be back shortly
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Post by retrostoke on Jan 15, 2023 23:30:48 GMT
Respect for Coates getting us into the Premiership and bank rolling us to stay there for 10 years. Short memories some Stoke fans
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Post by tony10 on Jan 15, 2023 23:39:54 GMT
Retrostoke
I am not far behind you in seasons myself buddy.
Chic Bates and chris Kamara was a eye opener 😂😂
How football has changed over the years hey?
The young fans want instant success
The old want a team who puts a shift in and put a player or 2 in the paddock. (They were the days 😂)
Being a stoke fan this long has definitely been like a dodgy rollercoaster ride with a missing wheel.
You have to take stoke city as it comes, expect anything more than that results in disappointment.
At least we can say we saw them in the promised land, they had the world on a string but they couldn’t hold it together
And truly screwed it up.
Nothing new for stoke 😂😂
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 15, 2023 23:42:07 GMT
Respect for Coates getting us into the Premiership and bank rolling us to stay there for 10 years. Short memories some Stoke fans God forbid that we have standards. |
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Post by cheadlepotter on Jan 15, 2023 23:44:58 GMT
We’ve just done 10 years in the Premiership. They won’t. How are they doing more than us. Football is cyclical. They will be back shortly I don’t get the football is cyclical thing, or at least it being used as an excuse. We were relegated because of bad player and staff recruitment and we could be relegated again for the same reasons. If where we are now is just a cyclical thing then we can’t praise or respect the Coates’ for the successful years in the PL as that was just cyclical too. |
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Post by camstoke10 on Jan 15, 2023 23:46:38 GMT
The perfect window would be
Carl Darlow (loan-Newcastle)
Axel tuanzebe (loan)
Ben Pearson (loan)
Alex Pritchard (low cost due to end of contract at end of season)
Ross Stewart/Ashley barnes
Or even go and get Clarke Harris from Peterborough as no risk signing
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 15, 2023 23:47:38 GMT
The term “forever grateful” should be banned.
It shows the appalling mindset of so many.
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Post by spoton on Jan 15, 2023 23:58:48 GMT
Respect for Coates getting us into the Premiership and bank rolling us to stay there for 10 years. Short memories some Stoke fans Achievements are alot more than recent years,and we've not just done ten years in the premiership, I'm grateful that we have owners who are supporters it's annoying that they don't realise they are dreadful at running a club successfully,I don't get carried away of playing in Division 1 (yes that's what I believe it still is),thats the least I expect |
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Post by musik on Jan 16, 2023 0:22:20 GMT
It closes on January 31st right?
I'd be surprised if get more than 1-2 players.
A handful will leave though.
Best of luck!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2023 0:24:40 GMT
The term “forever grateful” should be banned. It shows the appalling mindset of so many. You can be grateful for the memories that you’ve had while still being angry at the current bile as well. One doesn’t discount the other. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 16, 2023 0:28:49 GMT
The term “forever grateful” should be banned. It shows the appalling mindset of so many. You can be grateful for the memories that you’ve had while still being angry at the current bile as well. One doesn’t discount the other. You can but it’s absolutely irrelevant at the minute. That legacy has been ruined. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2023 1:57:19 GMT
You can be grateful for the memories that you’ve had while still being angry at the current bile as well. One doesn’t discount the other. You can but it’s absolutely irrelevant at the minute. That legacy has been ruined. Not really. They are not mutually exclusive. I won’t forget years in the Premier League and that Europa League experience because of the crap that is the now. It’s unfortunate if you can’t separate the two. |
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Post by knype on Jan 16, 2023 4:55:07 GMT
Neil seems hell bent on wanting two holding midfielders, despite our squad probably being more suited to having just one. So if someone like Pearson came in then at least he can play alongside Thompson, Laurent, or Baker (the latter of who I think, if he has to play in defensive midfield, operates better as a sole operator than alongside somebody). If we are relying on Thompson to be a regular starter between now and the end of the season we are going to struggle. I have never got the love in for Thompson, he's a lower league plodder |
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Post by retrostoke on Jan 16, 2023 5:43:48 GMT
We’ve just done 10 years in the Premiership. They won’t. How are they doing more than us. Football is cyclical. They will be back shortly I don’t get the football is cyclical thing, or at least it being used as an excuse. We were relegated because of bad player and staff recruitment and we could be relegated again for the same reasons. If where we are now is just a cyclical thing then we can’t praise or respect the Coates’ for the successful years in the PL as that was just cyclical too. If you can’t understand cyclical have a chat with some Liverpool fans, Ipswich fans, Derby fans, Barnsley, Charlton, Blackburn. |
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Post by samblano on Jan 16, 2023 6:11:42 GMT
This club has lost it's way both on and off the pitch. My perfect transfer window is to bring back Tony Pulis
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Post by Bagwash on Jan 16, 2023 6:21:35 GMT
The perfect window would be Carl Darlow (loan-Newcastle) Axel tuanzebe (loan) Ben Pearson (loan) Alex Pritchard (low cost due to end of contract at end of season) Ross Stewart/Ashley Or even go and get Clarke Harris from Peterborough as no risk signing Definitely need a decent keeper as a priority and as much as I used to dislike the bloke Ben Pearson would be the perfect DM we need. |
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Post by s7oke on Jan 16, 2023 6:23:08 GMT
The perfect window would be Carl Darlow (loan-Newcastle) Axel tuanzebe (loan) Ben Pearson (loan) Alex Pritchard (low cost due to end of contract at end of season) Ross Stewart/Ashley Or even go and get Clarke Harris from Peterborough as no risk signing Definitely need a decent keeper as a priority and as much as I used to dislike the bloke Ben Pearson would be the perfect DM we need. He played at the weekend though and he’s still a dirty fucker 😱 |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 16, 2023 6:30:21 GMT
I don’t get the football is cyclical thing, or at least it being used as an excuse. We were relegated because of bad player and staff recruitment and we could be relegated again for the same reasons. If where we are now is just a cyclical thing then we can’t praise or respect the Coates’ for the successful years in the PL as that was just cyclical too. If you can’t understand cyclical have a chat with some Liverpool fans, Ipswich fans, Derby fans, Barnsley, Charlton, Blackburn. All of those clubs are in decline for a reason though, you don’t just wake up in August one season and find it’s your turn. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 16, 2023 6:31:09 GMT
This club has lost it's way both on and off the pitch. My perfect transfer window is to bring back Tony Pulis Maybe we could dig up Bob McGrory? |
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Post by thevoid on Jan 16, 2023 6:39:40 GMT
We’ve just done 10 years in the Premiership. They won’t. How are they doing more than us. Football is cyclical. They will be back shortly Cyclical? Here's me thinking clubs either went up or down based on a whole host of different factors. Didn't think there were wheels involved. |
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Post by idle on Jan 16, 2023 7:22:53 GMT
If we are relying on Thompson to be a regular starter between now and the end of the season we are going to struggle. I have never got the love in for Thompson, he's a lower league plodder He's the only DM we have, and everyone and their granny can see that the team needs one. Doesn't mean we rate him. I'd rather have Allen or Mikel, but he's what we have. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 16, 2023 7:41:11 GMT
I have never got the love in for Thompson, he's a lower league plodder He's the only DM we have, and everyone and their granny can see that the team needs one. Doesn't mean we rate him. I'd rather have Allen or Mikel, but he's what we have. Is he? He can’t tackle, doesn’t read the game well and gets run past like he isn’t there. The definition of a nothing player. |
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Post by professorplump on Jan 16, 2023 7:44:17 GMT
This club has lost it's way both on and off the pitch. My perfect transfer window is to bring back Tony Pulis Maybe we could dig up Bob McGrory? Tony Waddington could give the team talk via Ouija Board! |
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Post by idle on Jan 16, 2023 8:21:23 GMT
He's the only DM we have, and everyone and their granny can see that the team needs one. Doesn't mean we rate him. I'd rather have Allen or Mikel, but he's what we have. Is he? He can’t tackle, doesn’t read the game well and gets run past like he isn’t there. The definition of a nothing player. Yeah, that's why we need another DM. So who do you think should be DM? Laurent, who makes equal amounts of defensive howlers as Wilmot? Baker, who can't even do the basics right, nevermind tackle? Even when we played with both teams just cut through the middle like the proverbial hot knife in butter! |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 16, 2023 8:23:07 GMT
Is he? He can’t tackle, doesn’t read the game well and gets run past like he isn’t there. The definition of a nothing player. Yeah, that's why we need another DM. So who do you think should be DM? Laurent, who makes equal amounts of defensive howlers as Wilmot? Baker, who can't even do the basics right, nevermind tackle? Even when we played with both teams just cut through the middle like the proverbial hot knife in butter! We need a new midfield. At the minute though the deepest midfielder should imo be Kilkenny. |
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Post by Bagwash on Jan 16, 2023 8:31:06 GMT
Definitely need a decent keeper as a priority and as much as I used to dislike the bloke Ben Pearson would be the perfect DM we need. He played at the weekend though and he’s still a dirty fucker 😱 Didn't know he played at the weekend,thought he was,at best a bench warmer but he would walk into our midfield. |
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Post by karl on Jan 16, 2023 8:31:26 GMT
When does anyone expect any incoming players?
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Post by idle on Jan 16, 2023 8:32:01 GMT
Yeah, that's why we need another DM. So who do you think should be DM? Laurent, who makes equal amounts of defensive howlers as Wilmot? Baker, who can't even do the basics right, nevermind tackle? Even when we played with both teams just cut through the middle like the proverbial hot knife in butter! We need a new midfield. At the minute though the deepest midfielder should imo be Kilkenny. Isn't he a technical, creative player? While I agree we need more of that, we also need ball winners. |
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