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Post by neddy on Jan 14, 2023 19:03:50 GMT
Albion now in play offs position. Sad isn’t it!
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Post by MilanStokie on Jan 14, 2023 19:11:49 GMT
A pure myth that tymon cannot play LB in a 4 Tymon is a pretty awful defender, much better going forwards. We really need (and have done for at least 6 years) proper full backs/wing backs. It's a problem that has plagued us. Erik Peters wasn't the greatest but different class to anything we currently have, or have had, in that position since he left. And he left apparently due to something that happened off the pitch and not on it. Can't recall what it was unfortunately. Again, a myth. When he's played in a back 4 he's been absolutely fine. I agree he's a better LWB than a LB but the only times he's struggled defensively is in the LWB role when he's committed himself too far forward.
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Post by Biblical on Jan 14, 2023 19:13:53 GMT
Tymon is a pretty awful defender, much better going forwards. We really need (and have done for at least 6 years) proper full backs/wing backs. It's a problem that has plagued us. Erik Peters wasn't the greatest but different class to anything we currently have, or have had, in that position since he left. And he left apparently due to something that happened off the pitch and not on it. Can't recall what it was unfortunately. Again, a myth. When he's played in a back 4 he's been absolutely fine. I agree he's a better LWB than a LB but the only times he's struggled defensively is in the LWB role when he's committed himself too far forward. It’s not a myth, Tymon gets caught out defensively frequently when he’s played LB. He’s just not a good defender.
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Post by BlurtonRed on Jan 14, 2023 19:16:43 GMT
A pure myth that tymon cannot play LB in a 4 Tymon is a pretty awful defender, much better going forwards. We really need (and have done for at least 6 years) proper full backs/wing backs. It's a problem that has plagued us. Erik Peters wasn't the greatest but different class to anything we currently have, or have had, in that position since he left. And he left apparently due to something that happened off the pitch and not on it. Can't recall what it was unfortunately. He can't get outside of a player
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Post by MilanStokie on Jan 14, 2023 19:19:59 GMT
Again, a myth. When he's played in a back 4 he's been absolutely fine. I agree he's a better LWB than a LB but the only times he's struggled defensively is in the LWB role when he's committed himself too far forward. It’s not a myth, Tymon gets caught out defensively frequently when he’s played LB. He’s just not a good defender. Not from the games I saw. Only when too advanced when playing LWB. The last 2 times I recall him playing there were both clean sheets.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jan 14, 2023 19:26:24 GMT
We are in real risk of relegation here, and for that reason we need to sell Souttar ASAP, to fund 4-5 transfers we desperately need. New GK, CB, CDM, Winger, Striker My team would then be: - - - - - - - NEW GK CLARKE - NEW CB - JAGIELKA - TYMON - - - BAKER - - NEW CDM CAMPBELL -- POWELL - - NEW LW - - - - - NEW STRIKER We simply have too many gaps and not enough funds, prepare for League 1 if we keep Souttar, as much as I like him Clarke and Tymon as fullbacks!!?? That's a recipe for disaster! First goal cross from right wing...Wilmot rb. Third goal cross from left wing..tymon lb..and nowhere to be seen....again!
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 14, 2023 19:28:31 GMT
Clarke and Tymon as fullbacks!!?? That's a recipe for disaster! First goal cross from right wing...Wilmot rb. Third goal cross from left wing..tymon lb..and nowhere to be seen....again! + Laurent not anticipating anything!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2023 19:34:53 GMT
It’s not a myth, Tymon gets caught out defensively frequently when he’s played LB. He’s just not a good defender. Not from the games I saw. Only when too advanced when playing LWB. The last 2 times I recall him playing there were both clean sheets. He needs a player in front of him who also appears regularly in the match day 11. We keep chopping and changing the team and players can’t build an understanding with each other.
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Jan 14, 2023 19:35:33 GMT
We are in real risk of relegation here, and for that reason we need to sell Souttar ASAP, to fund 4-5 transfers we desperately need. New GK, CB, CDM, Winger, Striker My team would then be: - - - - - - - NEW GK CLARKE - NEW CB - JAGIELKA - TYMON - - - BAKER - - NEW CDM CAMPBELL -- POWELL - - NEW LW - - - - - NEW STRIKER We simply have too many gaps and not enough funds, prepare for League 1 if we keep Souttar, as much as I like him Like the formation 4231 but I’d rather have Laurent than Baker. I think with more games Laurent could be decent at DM. I wouldn’t have Baker in the side on current form. I like Tymon but he’s a wingback or nothing. - - - - - - - NEW GK STERLING - SOUTTER - TAYLOR - NEW LB - - - LAURENT - - NEW CDM CAMPBELL -- POWELL OR NEW - - NEW LAM - - - - - TARGET MAN
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 14, 2023 19:36:11 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/match-reports/sheffield-united-stoke-live-stream-8030638Sanctioned Joe Bursik exit to Club Brugge - do you have a goalkeeper lined up to bring in?Neil: We'll have to wait and see between now and the end of the window. There are a lot of moving parts at the moment, a lot of dynamics that are in play. What I don't want to do is say something and further down the line it doesn't come to fruition and people come back to it. We'll wait and see. But clearly you want to bring in a couple sooner rather than later?Neil: We've got work to do behind the scenes so we've got a lot to think about. Oh wow we’re a mess.
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Post by clarkeda on Jan 14, 2023 19:42:13 GMT
All 6 loanees need to go to give some room for manoeuvre. Our new Director of Whatever needs to earn his money and find a way. If the Bursik money isn’t enough to move in the transfer market, I would look at moving any or all of Brown, Baker and Wilmot. As far as I’m concerned. Everyone is for sale, manager, board, stadium included.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2023 19:44:56 GMT
We are in real risk of relegation here, and for that reason we need to sell Souttar ASAP, to fund 4-5 transfers we desperately need. New GK, CB, CDM, Winger, Striker My team would then be: - - - - - - - NEW GK CLARKE - NEW CB - JAGIELKA - TYMON - - - BAKER - - NEW CDM CAMPBELL -- POWELL - - NEW LW - - - - - NEW STRIKER We simply have too many gaps and not enough funds, prepare for League 1 if we keep Souttar, as much as I like him Like the formation 4231 but I’d rather have Laurent than Baker. I think with more games Laurent could be decent at DM. I wouldn’t have Baker in the side on current form. I like Tymon but he’s a wingback or nothing. - - - - - - - NEW GK STERLING - SOUTTER - TAYLOR - NEW LB - - - LAURENT - - NEW CDM CAMPBELL -- POWELL OR NEW - - NEW LAM - - - - - TARGET MAN Could also try: New GK Sterling/Fosu — Clarke — CB — Wilmot — Tymon Baker — CDM Brown LW Target man That would still be four signings though. Three if Taylor/Jagielka replaces Souttar. I just don’t see it.
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Post by karl on Jan 14, 2023 20:01:18 GMT
I really think we will not get anyone in this transfer window and will be weaker when it closes. Hope I am wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2023 20:04:21 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/match-reports/sheffield-united-stoke-live-stream-8030638Sanctioned Joe Bursik exit to Club Brugge - do you have a goalkeeper lined up to bring in?Neil: We'll have to wait and see between now and the end of the window. There are a lot of moving parts at the moment, a lot of dynamics that are in play. What I don't want to do is say something and further down the line it doesn't come to fruition and people come back to it. We'll wait and see. But clearly you want to bring in a couple sooner rather than later?Neil: We've got work to do behind the scenes so we've got a lot to think about. Oh wow we’re a mess. Doesn't sound like there is anything even remotely close does it? We're in desperate need of new players now, and just as desperate to get some shifted. Absolutely we're a mess and this mess is only going one way. The opportunity we had in our hands back in the mid 2010s and where we've ended up is criminal. I could weep, I really could. Totally unnecessary waste of time, effort and money and it's going to take decades to get back anywhere near close.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 14, 2023 20:06:12 GMT
Doesn't sound like there is anything even remotely close does it? We're in desperate need of new players now, and just as desperate to get some shifted. Absolutely we're a mess and this mess is only going one way. The opportunity we had in our hands back in the mid 2010s and where we've ended up is criminal. I could weep, I really could. Totally unnecessary waste of time, effort and money and it's going to take decades to get back anywhere near close. Nope. I hope he’s just being coy. You can’t let a keeper go without a guaranteed replacement. You simply can’t. And yeah it’s so sad isn’t it. But hey we’re the wankers for wanting the best for this club and not accepting the shit it offers 😂🤦♂️
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Post by questionable on Jan 14, 2023 20:10:20 GMT
Doesn't sound like there is anything even remotely close does it? We're in desperate need of new players now, and just as desperate to get some shifted. Absolutely we're a mess and this mess is only going one way. The opportunity we had in our hands back in the mid 2010s and where we've ended up is criminal. I could weep, I really could. Totally unnecessary waste of time, effort and money and it's going to take decades to get back anywhere near close. Nope. I hope he’s just being coy. You can’t let a keeper go without a guaranteed replacement. You simply can’t. And yeah it’s so sad isn’t it. But hey we’re the wankers for wanting the best for this club and not accepting the shit it offers 😂🤦♂️ But, but, but the owners put on free away travel
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Post by spoton on Jan 14, 2023 20:10:49 GMT
We are in real risk of relegation here, and for that reason we need to sell Souttar ASAP, to fund 4-5 transfers we desperately need. New GK, CB, CDM, Winger, Striker My team would then be: - - - - - - - NEW GK CLARKE - NEW CB - JAGIELKA - TYMON - - - BAKER - - NEW CDM CAMPBELL -- POWELL - - NEW LW - - - - - NEW STRIKER We simply have too many gaps and not enough funds, prepare for League 1 if we keep Souttar, as much as I like him Like the formation 4231 but I’d rather have Laurent than Baker. I think with more games Laurent could be decent at DM. I wouldn’t have Baker in the side on current form. I like Tymon but he’s a wingback or nothing. - - - - - - - NEW GK STERLING - SOUTTER - TAYLOR - NEW LB - - - LAURENT - - NEW CDM CAMPBELL -- POWELL OR NEW - - NEW LAM - - - - - TARGET MAN Christ that centre half pairing must be the slowest two in all football leagues
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 14, 2023 20:12:05 GMT
Doesn't sound like there is anything even remotely close does it? We're in desperate need of new players now, and just as desperate to get some shifted. Absolutely we're a mess and this mess is only going one way. The opportunity we had in our hands back in the mid 2010s and where we've ended up is criminal. I could weep, I really could. Totally unnecessary waste of time, effort and money and it's going to take decades to get back anywhere near close. Nope. I hope he’s just being coy. You can’t let a keeper go without a guaranteed replacement. You simply can’t. And yeah it’s so sad isn’t it. But hey we’re the wankers for wanting the best for this club and not accepting the shit it offers 😂🤦♂️ Is Frank Fielding any worse than Bursik ?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 14, 2023 20:13:00 GMT
Nope. I hope he’s just being coy. You can’t let a keeper go without a guaranteed replacement. You simply can’t. And yeah it’s so sad isn’t it. But hey we’re the wankers for wanting the best for this club and not accepting the shit it offers 😂🤦♂️ Is Frank Fielding any worse than Bursik ? I mean the fact that he’s not got a game whilst we’ve had the shit we’ve had in suggests he very much is.
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Post by karl on Jan 14, 2023 20:15:34 GMT
Doesn't sound like there is anything even remotely close does it? We're in desperate need of new players now, and just as desperate to get some shifted. Absolutely we're a mess and this mess is only going one way. The opportunity we had in our hands back in the mid 2010s and where we've ended up is criminal. I could weep, I really could. Totally unnecessary waste of time, effort and money and it's going to take decades to get back anywhere near close. The thing is we cannot wait until the summer and replace 11 or more players and expect them to gel and get us to where we need to be in the league so expected us to sign 3 this window to start the process of freshening things up.
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Post by karl on Jan 14, 2023 20:22:03 GMT
I am interested in what Ricky Martin is doing behind the scenes to improve things as no sign so far as regards transfers unless everything is going to be done on deadline day.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 14, 2023 20:25:40 GMT
I am interested in what Ricky Martin is doing behind the scenes to improve things as no sign so far as regards transfers unless everything is going to be done on deadline day. He's been pissing people off and generally acting like Billy big bollocks by all accounts.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 14, 2023 20:25:54 GMT
A pure myth that tymon cannot play LB in a 4 Tymon is a pretty awful defender, much better going forwards. We really need (and have done for at least 6 years) proper full backs/wing backs. It's a problem that has plagued us. Erik Peters wasn't the greatest but different class to anything we currently have, or have had, in that position since he left. And he left apparently due to something that happened off the pitch and not on it. Can't recall what it was unfortunately. Parking his car in the chairmans space allegedly.
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Post by sportsman on Jan 14, 2023 20:27:41 GMT
I am interested in what Ricky Martin is doing behind the scenes to improve things as no sign so far as regards transfers unless everything is going to be done on deadline day. I'd say waiting for Leicester or whoever to put in the right bid/deal for souttar, then get the keeper, maybe Stewart and whoever else. If the right bid doesn't come in for souttar then it's shifting loans out and loans in
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Post by iamstokie on Jan 14, 2023 20:34:51 GMT
Albion now in play offs position. Sad isn’t it! Shows how important bringing the right manager in is instead of old British dinosaurs
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Post by boult on Jan 14, 2023 20:35:04 GMT
Transfers 18 / 19 (and not all of them)
Etebo 6.5m Mclean 5m Ince 10m Clucas 6m Afobe 8m Vokes 7-9m + Crouch
Danny Batth for 3M now looks like a bargain.
But if we are honestly looking at why we are not investing in the transfer market, this maybe a place to start. Since then we've barely signed anyone for any more than we paid for Danny...
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Post by sportsman on Jan 14, 2023 20:38:09 GMT
Albion now in play offs position. Sad isn’t it! Shows how important bringing the right manager in is instead of old British dinosaurs Klopp?
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Post by shakermaker on Jan 14, 2023 20:47:49 GMT
From the first 30 mins we need a new GK LB DM AM CF GK - BentleyLB DM - PearsonAM CF - JugillThese three loans (assuming we don’t sell Harry) will save our skins.
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Post by sportsman on Jan 14, 2023 20:55:51 GMT
Looking at souttar interest, it seems all talk is west ham or wolves with west ham being heavily linked with a fee of around 25m!
That would make some difference to our window
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Post by hughjarse on Jan 14, 2023 21:10:08 GMT
From the first 30 mins we need a new GK LB DM AM CF GK - BentleyLB DM - PearsonAM CF - JugillThese three loans (assuming we don’t sell Harry) will save our skins. Wow !! What a mess we are in if Jordan Hugill (or Jugill if you prefer) is our saviour
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