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Post by middleoftheboothen on Nov 18, 2022 9:43:56 GMT
Butland looked like he gave a shit? One of the bigger reasons we went down. Awful goalkeeper. He was wank mate but I don't think it was through lack of heart and because he didn't care. I think he did care alot about the club he was just toss that season and after that.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 18, 2022 9:48:51 GMT
Butland looked like he gave a shit? One of the bigger reasons we went down. Awful goalkeeper. He was wank mate but I don't think it was through lack of heart and because he didn't care. I think he did care alot about the club he was just toss that season and after that. His attitude stunk for me. Never accepting responsibility, having a go at the fans and the crocodile tears at the end of the season were pathetic.
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Post by nottsover60 on Nov 18, 2022 9:54:11 GMT
The experienced pros could and should have done more but it comes down to the manager if you ask me. Manager sets the standard and the tone. Speaking of Tone, TP would have nutted saido in the shower if he was causing that disruption. It was TP himself who sold saido to us I think wasn't it? All signings should have research done on their attitudes. We still have the same problem now, all the talent in the world and not a pair of bollocks between them most weeks. Cracking squad but they can't be arsed. From all accounts Fuller had a similar attitude to Saido in terms of time keeping and TP didn't manage to omprove that. Today Tony loves to tell the story of how he knew Fuller was flying out to non existant matches and the one about him not turning up back at the club until the morning of the Wolves game when TP was persuaded by his staff to send him on the pitch against his best intentions when we were losing and Fuller went on to score two. He used it as an example of how some players needed an arm around the shoulder rather than a rod across their back. You can't change a leopard's spots and I think the difference is in Fuller's personality. He wanted to do his part in the team. Nobody could have persuaded Saido et al to play better for the team. They are adults not kids. Their has to be self discipline of which they had none. What do you think Saido etc would have said to Crouch?
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Post by somersetstokie on Nov 18, 2022 10:08:22 GMT
Disappointing you pluralised your Jeses and Imbulas but left your Johnsons and Adams as singular. If they'd all pulled their fingers out we'd still be playing your Liverpools and your Man Citys instead of your Rotherhams and your Lutons You're right to castigate me for it, it's poor form and the same kind of lack of consistency shown by your Choupo-Motings and your Fletchers. I hate that use of descriptive pluralisation as a poor application of language. Football pundits will talk for example of England's Golden Generation when we had the Beckhams, the Lampards and the Garrards. No! We had individuals with names who should be described with correct respect, and they each had their own specific identity. Lampard and Gerrard. An irritating use of modern football idiom. It makes me as sick as a Parrot.
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Post by a on Nov 18, 2022 10:12:36 GMT
Too little too late. Hopefully a lasting stain on his reputation.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 18, 2022 10:21:47 GMT
You're right to castigate me for it, it's poor form and the same kind of lack of consistency shown by your Choupo-Motings and your Fletchers. I hate that use of descriptive pluralisation as a poor application of language. Football pundits will talk for example of England's Golden Generation when we had the Beckhams, the Lampards and the Garrards. No! We had individuals with names who should be described with correct respect, and they each had their own specific identity. Lampard and Gerrard. An irritating use of modern football idiom. It makes me as sick as a Parrot. I quite like it and the fact that it annoys people. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif)
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Post by somersetstokie on Nov 18, 2022 11:44:33 GMT
Fair enough Toxic!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 18, 2022 17:46:36 GMT
Pulled that one from your arse haven't you? Johnson, Adam etc routinely blamed it exclusively on the Jeses and Imbulas. Adam's in no position to go blaming other people.
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Post by greenman on Nov 18, 2022 20:35:11 GMT
Berahino was a terrible signing, 5 1/2 year contract for god`s sake. It was always a big gamble, his only asset was a bit of pace and that seemed to have gone a bit like Dwight Gayle now.
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Post by dirtclod on Nov 18, 2022 21:01:11 GMT
A period of time I'd like to see in the rearview mirror so Peter, shut up. Please.
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Nov 19, 2022 1:35:15 GMT
He was wank mate but I don't think it was through lack of heart and because he didn't care. I think he did care alot about the club he was just toss that season and after that. His attitude stunk for me. Never accepting responsibility, having a go at the fans and the crocodile tears at the end of the season were pathetic. Butland was a massive prick of a boy. The number of times he'd flap his arms about after posing with the ball before mindlessly lumping it back to the opposition did my head in. Didn't he also have to be held back from fighting fans at Stoke Station after that embarrassing loss away at Spurs? Always remember him having a pop at some fans at the front of Block 29 too. I'm convinced that if he was called Jacques Butlando he'd be hated as much as the likes of Imbula.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 19, 2022 7:51:44 GMT
His attitude stunk for me. Never accepting responsibility, having a go at the fans and the crocodile tears at the end of the season were pathetic. Butland was a massive prick of a boy. The number of times he'd flap his arms about after posing with the ball before mindlessly lumping it back to the opposition did my head in. Didn't he also have to be held back from fighting fans at Stoke Station after that embarrassing loss away at Spurs? Always remember him having a pop at some fans at the front of Block 29 too. I'm convinced that if he was called Jacques Butlando he'd be hated as much as the likes of Imbula. Oh for sure. The stuff he got away with is mad.
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Post by werrington on Nov 19, 2022 8:47:26 GMT
His attitude stunk for me. Never accepting responsibility, having a go at the fans and the crocodile tears at the end of the season were pathetic. Butland was a massive prick of a boy. The number of times he'd flap his arms about after posing with the ball before mindlessly lumping it back to the opposition did my head in. Didn't he also have to be held back from fighting fans at Stoke Station after that embarrassing loss away at Spurs? Always remember him having a pop at some fans at the front of Block 29 too. I'm convinced that if he was called Jacques Butlando he'd be hated as much as the likes of Imbula. The players did nothing after that Tottenham match at the station mate they just stood and took the abuse outside of Stoke station It’s amazing how these stories start
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 19, 2022 8:48:13 GMT
Butland was a massive prick of a boy. The number of times he'd flap his arms about after posing with the ball before mindlessly lumping it back to the opposition did my head in. Didn't he also have to be held back from fighting fans at Stoke Station after that embarrassing loss away at Spurs? Always remember him having a pop at some fans at the front of Block 29 too. I'm convinced that if he was called Jacques Butlando he'd be hated as much as the likes of Imbula. The players did nothing after that Tottenham match at the station mate they just stood and took the abuse outside of Stoke station It’s amazing how these stories start Welcome back mate👍
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Post by werrington on Nov 19, 2022 8:50:04 GMT
Butland was a massive prick of a boy. The number of times he'd flap his arms about after posing with the ball before mindlessly lumping it back to the opposition did my head in. Didn't he also have to be held back from fighting fans at Stoke Station after that embarrassing loss away at Spurs? Always remember him having a pop at some fans at the front of Block 29 too. I'm convinced that if he was called Jacques Butlando he'd be hated as much as the likes of Imbula. Oh for sure. The stuff he got away with is mad. Why what did he get away with? All the above stated by Rickyfuller is wrong
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 19, 2022 8:51:40 GMT
Oh for sure. The stuff he got away with is mad. Why what did he get away with? All the above stated by Rickyfuller is wrong He was always giving the crowd stick so that’s not wrong at all. He’d fuck up, get a bit of stick and then act a mardarse and never take responsibility. A proper mardarse.
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Post by werrington on Nov 19, 2022 8:55:03 GMT
Why what did he get away with? All the above stated by Rickyfuller is wrong He was always giving the crowd stick so that’s not wrong at all. He’d fuck up, get a bit of stick and then act a mardarse and never take responsibility. A proper mardarse. Yeah righto
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 19, 2022 8:55:47 GMT
He was always giving the crowd stick so that’s not wrong at all. He’d fuck up, get a bit of stick and then act a mardarse and never take responsibility. A proper mardarse. Yeah righto He was but he cried and was English so it’s fine.
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Post by march4 on Nov 19, 2022 12:57:35 GMT
Had Hughes not got rid of Walters, Whelan and Huth, it wouldn’t have happened.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Nov 19, 2022 13:38:13 GMT
Had Hughes not got rid of Walters, Whelan and Huth, it wouldn’t have happened. To be fair, Walters and Whelan’s time with us had probably cone to an end, certainly playingwise. His problem was he didnt replace them. Their presence in the training room wouldnt have gone amiss mind Huth went a few years earlier
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2022 13:56:46 GMT
We know what the problem is in the club and we need a director of football to assist Neil in discipline and picking the correct players out there.
Pulis is the man.
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Post by werrington on Nov 19, 2022 14:14:49 GMT
Had Hughes not got rid of Walters, Whelan and Huth, it wouldn’t have happened. Walters made it clear on three consecutive transfer windows he wanted to leave the club Let’s stop continually rewriting misty eyed utter bollocks history
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 19, 2022 14:20:06 GMT
Had Hughes not got rid of Walters, Whelan and Huth, it wouldn’t have happened. Walters made it clear on three consecutive transfer windows he wanted to leave the club Let’s stop continually rewriting misty eyed utter bollocks history Always amazed me he got away with that bullshit with fans.
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Post by lstokie on Nov 19, 2022 16:46:54 GMT
Pulled that one from your arse haven't you? No, it's the line Crouch normally peddles. Do keep up chap. From what I've read and heard myself he came out and said the whole team was littered with people that were the problem, not specifically foreigners. Hard to keep up with something made up old chap
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Post by theonlooker on Nov 19, 2022 16:53:04 GMT
No, it's the line Crouch normally peddles. Do keep up chap. Apologies, I got that one wrong. No problem, apology accepted.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2022 16:55:56 GMT
Had Hughes not got rid of Walters, Whelan and Huth, it wouldn’t have happened. Walters made it clear on three consecutive transfer windows he wanted to leave the club Let’s stop continually rewriting misty eyed utter bollocks history Did he??
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Post by march4 on Nov 19, 2022 16:57:39 GMT
Had Hughes not got rid of Walters, Whelan and Huth, it wouldn’t have happened. Walters made it clear on three consecutive transfer windows he wanted to leave the club Let’s stop continually rewriting misty eyed utter bollocks history That’s true, mate. Trouble is we didn’t replace the influence of the three of them.
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Post by lstokie on Nov 19, 2022 17:04:25 GMT
You're right, I'm actually a massive jeb end That's alright mate we know
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 19, 2022 17:05:39 GMT
Butland was a massive prick of a boy. The number of times he'd flap his arms about after posing with the ball before mindlessly lumping it back to the opposition did my head in. Didn't he also have to be held back from fighting fans at Stoke Station after that embarrassing loss away at Spurs? Always remember him having a pop at some fans at the front of Block 29 too. I'm convinced that if he was called Jacques Butlando he'd be hated as much as the likes of Imbula. The players did nothing after that Tottenham match at the station mate they just stood and took the abuse outside of Stoke station It’s amazing how these stories start Jack Butland apologised to me and my little one at Euston station and at stoke station high fived my boy and said “I hope we haven’t completely ruined your day”. Jack Butland was a gem of a bloke who went through a terrible spell of form at a time when we needed him the most. He cared though for sure.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Nov 19, 2022 17:45:54 GMT
None of the players at that time,cared about the club,so didn't give a shit if we went down or not.
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