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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 20, 2024 9:30:12 GMT
One wonders why this wasn't possible under the previous Tory administration? It couldn't be that they were cynically allowing the migrant 'crisis' to perpetuate in the hope of attracting the headbanger vote, could it? Shame on you for thinking the previous government were playing cynical games!!! And am I really seeing an Express headline positive on the Labour government!! Didn't quite get that far, did they! If it had happened under the Tories, the front page would have been "TOUGH RISHI MEANS BUSINESS. MIGRANTS SENT PACKING". No mention of Labour or Starmer whatsoever! Mind you, most Express readers probably think Sunak and the Tories are still in government 😅
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Post by Veritas on Jul 20, 2024 10:04:57 GMT
Shame on you for thinking the previous government were playing cynical games!!! And am I really seeing an Express headline positive on the Labour government!! Didn't quite get that far, did they! If it had happened under the Tories, the front page would have been "TOUGH RISHI MEANS BUSINESS. MIGRANTS SENT PACKING". No mention of Labour or Starmer whatsoever! Mind you, most Express readers probably think Sunak and the Tories are still in government 😅 Most Tories think Stanley Baldwin is in government!!
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Post by oggyoggy on Jul 20, 2024 13:38:45 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 20, 2024 14:27:32 GMT
More race hate....disgusting.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 20, 2024 14:29:16 GMT
More race hate....disgusting. I thought the fella was articulate and most of all honest in what he says,just a pity you can’t see that
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Post by oggyoggy on Jul 20, 2024 14:45:12 GMT
Extraordinary hysteria from Robinson!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 20, 2024 15:07:51 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 21, 2024 6:31:26 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 21, 2024 7:24:40 GMT
To be fair they have been by police but not immigration which is odd as they’re often used by organised crime syndicates to launder money earned illegally. Often those working in the bars are victims of modern day slavery who are promised a life by the gangs and then abused so they might be grateful for the intervention. Good news.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 21, 2024 7:36:02 GMT
Raided places in Burslem pretty frequently over the last 3 or 4 years mate.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 21, 2024 7:38:27 GMT
Raided places in Burslem pretty frequently over the last 3 or 4 years mate. What has the outcome of these raids been mate?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 21, 2024 7:39:08 GMT
There is a really simple solution. Set up processing centres in France. For those that do try, guarantee safe passage then process their claims. It's not that difficult.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 21, 2024 7:40:27 GMT
Allow me to unboggle your mind, Badger.
Perhaps the previoys govt liked the idea of immigrants being identified as a continual problem because it is a handy deflection, garners hysterical front pages from its client press and plays well with a certain demographic?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 21, 2024 7:40:52 GMT
Raided places in Burslem pretty frequently over the last 3 or 4 years mate. What has the outcome of these raids been mate? Honestly Badge? No idea mate. Wonder if these are published anywhere?
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 21, 2024 8:07:37 GMT
There is a really simple solution. Set up processing centres in France. For those that do try, guarantee safe passage then process their claims. It's not that difficult. The French government approached our previous government about doing exactly that but Sunak refused the offer presumably because it didn't sound Brexity enough.
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Post by sticky on Jul 21, 2024 9:30:24 GMT
Reality is, nobody wants all these immigrants. You can argue all you like about It but them are the facts. I completely agree that the last government used it as a way to turn peoples heads away from other matters, but In reality what can be done about it? For any fleeing country’s we’ve bombed the shit out of (we being the elected government) then we’ve got a responsibility to do something But ffs they can’t keep dumping these folk in the same areas and just leaving everyone to it, it’s not fair on them or the locals. As for the ones coming over seemingly taking the piss, and with no right to be here, then they need to be processed and moved on as fast as possible, whatever the cost. If things don’t change I can see things escalating pretty quickly
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 21, 2024 9:38:35 GMT
Reality is, nobody wants all these immigrants. You can argue all you like about It but them are the facts. I completely agree that the last government used it as a way to turn peoples heads away from other matters, but In reality what can be done about it? For any fleeing country’s we’ve bombed the shit out of (we being the elected government) then we’ve got a responsibility to do something But ffs they can’t keep dumping these folk in the same areas and just leaving everyone to it, it’s not fair on them or the locals. As for the ones coming over seemingly taking the piss, and with no right to be here, then they need to be processed and moved on as fast as possible, whatever the cost. If things don’t change I can see things escalating pretty quickly It’s your bottom paragraph which explains the problem everybody can see and wants something done about. Families fleeing war torn countries are a different matter and I’m sure nobody wants to see those people without adequate provisions. I mean, asylum seekers from Albania, what’s all that about?🤷🏻♂️
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Post by sticky on Jul 21, 2024 9:43:05 GMT
Reality is, nobody wants all these immigrants. You can argue all you like about It but them are the facts. I completely agree that the last government used it as a way to turn peoples heads away from other matters, but In reality what can be done about it? For any fleeing country’s we’ve bombed the shit out of (we being the elected government) then we’ve got a responsibility to do something But ffs they can’t keep dumping these folk in the same areas and just leaving everyone to it, it’s not fair on them or the locals. As for the ones coming over seemingly taking the piss, and with no right to be here, then they need to be processed and moved on as fast as possible, whatever the cost. If things don’t change I can see things escalating pretty quickly It’s your bottom paragraph which explains the problem everybody can see and wants something done about. Families fleeing war torn countries are a different matter and I’m sure nobody wants to see those people without adequate provisions. I mean, asylum seekers from Albania, what’s all that about?🤷🏻♂️ Completely agree, voicing concerns about it doesn’t make you racist, and that’s what stifles the debate. We’ve got enough home grown scumbags causing havoc, and contributing fuck all to society without adding more.
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Post by ian57 on Jul 21, 2024 10:45:12 GMT
Reality is, nobody wants all these immigrants. You can argue all you like about It but them are the facts. I completely agree that the last government used it as a way to turn peoples heads away from other matters, but In reality what can be done about it? For any fleeing country’s we’ve bombed the shit out of (we being the elected government) then we’ve got a responsibility to do something But ffs they can’t keep dumping these folk in the same areas and just leaving everyone to it, it’s not fair on them or the locals. As for the ones coming over seemingly taking the piss, and with no right to be here, then they need to be processed and moved on as fast as possible, whatever the cost. If things don’t change I can see things escalating pretty quickly the thief only comes to kill and to steal and to destroy. John 10:10 ✝️ praise the lord 🙏
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 21, 2024 14:45:08 GMT
There is a really simple solution. Set up processing centres in France. For those that do try, guarantee safe passage then process their claims. It's not that difficult. The French government approached our previous government about doing exactly that but Sunak refused the offer presumably because it didn't sound Brexity enough. 1. Because (as you say) it didn't sound Brexity enough and 2. Because it was a manufactured problem, engineered by the Tories who actually wanted them to keep on coming.
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Post by knype on Jul 21, 2024 14:48:09 GMT
The French government approached our previous government about doing exactly that but Sunak refused the offer presumably because it didn't sound Brexity enough. 1. Because (as you say) it didn't sound Brexity enough and 2. Because it was a manufactured problem, engineered by the Tories who actually wanted them to keep on coming. Over 2.5k come in since Labour took charge. I'd say they're failing...
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 21, 2024 14:54:34 GMT
1. Because (as you say) it didn't sound Brexity enough and 2. Because it was a manufactured problem, engineered by the Tories who actually wanted them to keep on coming. Over 2.5k come in since Labour took charge. I'd say they're failing... Oh right, you expected them to fix it in two weeks? With that level of expectation you're inevitably going to find yourself dissapointed I'm afraid. Oh, and if you read my post back, you'll realise that I wasn't in any way defending Labour's policy, I was attacking that of the Tories. If you want to challenge what I actually said, please be my guest ...
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Post by knype on Jul 21, 2024 15:09:07 GMT
Over 2.5k come in since Labour took charge. I'd say they're failing... Oh right, you expected them to fix it in two weeks? With that level of expectation you're inevitably going to find yourself dissapointed I'm afraid. Oh, and if you read my post back, you'll realise that I wasn't in any way defending Labour's policy, I was attacking that of the Tories. If you want to challenge what I actually said, please be my guest ... Yeah, surely that's long enough to smash the gangs? They were going to target them on the French side?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 21, 2024 15:17:42 GMT
Oh right, you expected them to fix it in two weeks? With that level of expectation you're inevitably going to find yourself dissapointed I'm afraid. Oh, and if you read my post back, you'll realise that I wasn't in any way defending Labour's policy, I was attacking that of the Tories. If you want to challenge what I actually said, please be my guest ... Yeah, surely that's long enough to smash the gangs? They were going to target them on the French side? As I said, my post was nothing to do with defending Labour's policy, so I'm not sure why you're still attempting to go down that route. But hey, as you are doing, what I will say, is that I think it's absolutely bonkers to suggest that two weeks is enough time to resolve the small boat issue.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jul 21, 2024 20:11:34 GMT
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Post by sticky on Jul 21, 2024 20:45:56 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 21, 2024 21:17:27 GMT
Some reasonable concerns, and some absolute horse shit is my take on it. But a lot of people will agree with lots of what the first guy said.............
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 21, 2024 21:19:52 GMT
Some reasonable concerns, and some absolute horse shit is my take on it. But a lot of people will agree with lots of what the first guy said............. You don’t of course which doesn’t surprise anyone. What could you possibly disagree with. (No question mark because I’m aware you ignore my posts)
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Post by foster on Jul 21, 2024 21:22:39 GMT
Some reasonable concerns, and some absolute horse shit is my take on it. But a lot of people will agree with lots of what the first guy said............. You don’t of course which doesn’t surprise anyone. What could you possibly disagree with. (No question mark because I’m aware you ignore my posts) I'm just flabbergasted that they didn't lynch that black guy. They're all racists don't you know.
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Post by chamberlain on Jul 21, 2024 21:28:16 GMT
Labour and Tories are two cheeks of the same arse , neither are bothered about controlling immigration. Legal or illegal.
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