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Post by Foster on Dec 22, 2022 23:50:38 GMT
The problem with politicians in this country is they have no real life experience. What we need is a businessman with original ideas that can make things happen like Donald trump. We could take inspiration from his presidency. Like why don't we build a wall across the whole south of England and make Albania pay for it? Wouldn't that solve the issue and at no expense to the UK tax payer. I suppose the only issue with that is USA Wall was on land whereas ours is on sea. So building a wall could be counter productive and prevent locals and tourists from enjoying our unique sewage laden beaches which are a huge attraction and one of our many brexit benefits. It's nice to see someone on here post seriously about the real issues without the need to resort to childish sarcasm. |
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Post by Gawa on Dec 23, 2022 0:02:11 GMT
The problem with politicians in this country is they have no real life experience. What we need is a businessman with original ideas that can make things happen like Donald trump. We could take inspiration from his presidency. Like why don't we build a wall across the whole south of England and make Albania pay for it? Wouldn't that solve the issue and at no expense to the UK tax payer. I suppose the only issue with that is USA Wall was on land whereas ours is on sea. So building a wall could be counter productive and prevent locals and tourists from enjoying our unique sewage laden beaches which are a huge attraction and one of our many brexit benefits. It's nice to see someone on here post seriously about the real issues without the need to resort to childish sarcasm. Thank you mate. I think sometimes we just need to think outside the box a bit with these things. Maybe we could build a wall of wave machines along the border. Potential benefits: - Increase in surfing tourism - Spread our sewage across to the French beaches to help improve relations - Decrease in crosser bordings due to really big waves. In addition we could offer a good Tory chum a lucrative government surfboard manufacturing contract and make some good money out of this for our mates. Basically we mass produce surf boards due to the increased surfer tourism. AND we setup an IKEA sized store in Calais to sell to asylum seekers that wish to take on the wave machines. We could even make a TV show out of it and send Matt Hancock over to participate. "I'm an asylum seeker get me in there". They do a series of challenges on surfboards as they compete to cross the Channel! I think that's what Donald would do. And he made American great again. |
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Post by xchpotter on Jan 23, 2023 13:35:17 GMT
I’ve been following this trial for a while as it was on my doorstep. Right outcome, but once you read what this individual did before coming here, it really does beg the question how on earth can we afford to allow unknown people into the UK. An innocent lad has lost his life and his remaing family destroyed by someone who should never have been here in the first place. Read the part about the double murder conviction in Serbia, makes me feel sick. RIP Tom. www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/23269486.live-tom-roberts-murder-trial-verdict-set-returned/ |
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Post by knype on Jan 23, 2023 13:43:22 GMT
I’ve been following this trial for a while as it was on my doorstep. Right outcome, but once you read what this individual did before coming here, it really does beg the question how on earth can we afford to allow unknown people into the UK. An innocent lad has lost his life and his remaing family destroyed by someone who should never have been here in the first place. Read the part about the double murder conviction in Serbia, makes me feel sick. RIP Tom. www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/23269486.live-tom-roberts-murder-trial-verdict-set-returned/Absolutely horrendous! |
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Post by wannabee on Jan 23, 2023 14:23:28 GMT
I’ve been following this trial for a while as it was on my doorstep. Right outcome, but once you read what this individual did before coming here, it really does beg the question how on earth can we afford to allow unknown people into the UK. An innocent lad has lost his life and his remaing family destroyed by someone who should never have been here in the first place. Read the part about the double murder conviction in Serbia, makes me feel sick. RIP Tom. www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/23269486.live-tom-roberts-murder-trial-verdict-set-returned/There are some aspects of this tragic case I find puzzling as you have been following it you may be able to help. Abdulrahimzai is described as an Afghan Asylum Seeker which implies he had contact with Home Office to register his claim. Did the Home Office even check his background until the Police did with Interpol 4 years after he entered UK and committed his heinous crime. Abdulrahimzai was wanted in Serbia since August 12, 2018. He was tried and convicted on November 16, 2020. There was an appeal in February 2021 and the conviction was upheld.
God knows there is enough Deaths from knives in England awithout importing more, 261 in the year to March 2022
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Post by Northy on Jan 23, 2023 15:04:48 GMT
I’ve been following this trial for a while as it was on my doorstep. Right outcome, but once you read what this individual did before coming here, it really does beg the question how on earth can we afford to allow unknown people into the UK. An innocent lad has lost his life and his remaing family destroyed by someone who should never have been here in the first place. Read the part about the double murder conviction in Serbia, makes me feel sick. RIP Tom. www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/23269486.live-tom-roberts-murder-trial-verdict-set-returned/I was reading this earlier today, sickening what he did and shocking how he got in to the country, I was also reading another one who raped/murdered and was an Afghan criminal, there's a few unfortunately, and 2 out of 3 Albanians who came here have cut their ankle tags off and disappeared. |
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Post by xchpotter on Jan 23, 2023 15:09:16 GMT
I’ve been following this trial for a while as it was on my doorstep. Right outcome, but once you read what this individual did before coming here, it really does beg the question how on earth can we afford to allow unknown people into the UK. An innocent lad has lost his life and his remaing family destroyed by someone who should never have been here in the first place. Read the part about the double murder conviction in Serbia, makes me feel sick. RIP Tom. www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/23269486.live-tom-roberts-murder-trial-verdict-set-returned/There are some aspects of this tragic case I find puzzling as you have been following it you may be able to help. Abdulrahimzai is described as an Afghan Asylum Seeker which implies he had contact with Home Office to register his claim. Did the Home Office even check his background until the Police did with Interpol 4 years after he entered UK and committed his heinous crime. Abdulrahimzai was wanted in Serbia since August 12, 2018. He was tried and convicted on November 16, 2020. There was an appeal in February 2021 and the conviction was upheld.
God knows there is enough Deaths from knives in England awithout importing more, 261 in the year to March 2022
It would appear he was convicted under a different name in Serbia and also had drug convictions in Italy. He claimed to be 16 when he was arrested here, but he was later proven to be 21. It was only the murder investigation in Bournemouth that caused enquiries to be made abroad as he used a false name. This is the problem, we never know who is in the country until it’s too late. Personally, I would have everyone processed off shore until their identity and background is confirmed…..but some don’t like that. I don’t care, I’m more bothered about the lives of my family, friends and loved ones than them. This is way too close to home for me, but I’d rather not go into the detail. |
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Post by wannabee on Jan 23, 2023 15:33:18 GMT
There are some aspects of this tragic case I find puzzling as you have been following it you may be able to help. Abdulrahimzai is described as an Afghan Asylum Seeker which implies he had contact with Home Office to register his claim. Did the Home Office even check his background until the Police did with Interpol 4 years after he entered UK and committed his heinous crime. Abdulrahimzai was wanted in Serbia since August 12, 2018. He was tried and convicted on November 16, 2020. There was an appeal in February 2021 and the conviction was upheld.
God knows there is enough Deaths from knives in England awithout importing more, 261 in the year to March 2022
It would appear he was convicted under a different name in Serbia and also had drug convictions in Italy. He claimed to be 16 when he was arrested here, but he was later proven to be 21. It was only the murder investigation in Bournemouth that caused enquiries to be made abroad as he used a false name. This is the problem, we never know who is in the country until it’s too late. Personally, I would have everyone processed off shore until their identity and background is confirmed…..but some don’t like that. I don’t care, I’m more bothered about the lives of my family, friends and loved ones than them. This is way too close to home for me, but I’d rather not go into the detail. Thanks for that. It's obviously an unusual and complicated case but I still feel opportunities may have been missed. I have no problem deporting anyone who has no right to be in UK for Criminal/Economic reasons. I just feel the Home Office do not use all the levers available to them in a timely manner which ends up in a gigantic mess. They then introduce new rules to fix the wrong problem If asylum seekers were dealt with expediently and failed applicants sent back promptly then maybe fewer bogus applicants would try there luck I'm sorry this case has affected you personally |
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Post by Northy on Jan 24, 2023 16:06:32 GMT
2 hotels here in Stevenage now full of immigrants, which has meant my normal place has gone up £50 a night
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 24, 2023 19:33:44 GMT
2 hotels here in Stevenage now full of immigrants, which has meant my normal place has gone up £50 a night absolute disgrace, the country is a cesspit of illegal immigrants, economic migrants, drugs, crime and sex slavery. |
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Post by wannabee on Jan 25, 2023 21:07:11 GMT
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Post by danceswithclams on Jan 25, 2023 22:04:20 GMT
the country is a cesspit of illegal immigrants, economic migrants, drugs, crime and sex slavery. If I'm being honest with you, this sounds fucking mint. Just need to find a way to get a decent, constant supply of crystal meth and quaaludes established in this country and the whole place would be like the video to 'Smack My Bitch Up' as reimagined by Hunter S Thompson, 24/7. We should rename the UK 'The People's Republic of Squalid Hedonism' and convert all the abandoned Little Chef's into fetid porn dungeons. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 25, 2023 22:07:17 GMT
the country is a cesspit of illegal immigrants, economic migrants, drugs, crime and sex slavery. If I'm being honest with you, this sounds fucking mint. Just need to find a way to get a decent, constant supply of crystal meth and quaaludes established in this country and the whole place would be like the video to 'Smack My Bitch Up' as reimagined by Hunter S Thompson, 24/7. We should rename the UK 'The People's Republic of Squalid Hedonism' and convert all the abandoned Little Chef's into fetid porn dungeons. With a little more thought I could get on board with that! |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jan 25, 2023 22:41:21 GMT
the country is a cesspit of illegal immigrants, economic migrants, drugs, crime and sex slavery. If I'm being honest with you, this sounds fucking mint. Just need to find a way to get a decent, constant supply of crystal meth and quaaludes established in this country and the whole place would be like the video to 'Smack My Bitch Up' as reimagined by Hunter S Thompson, 24/7. We should rename the UK 'The People's Republic of Squalid Hedonism' and convert all the abandoned Little Chef's into fetid porn dungeons. Did you ever see The Fetid Porn Dungeons support World of Twist? |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 29, 2023 21:28:00 GMT
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Post by Gawa on Sept 4, 2023 8:31:15 GMT
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Post by slippyblunger on Sept 4, 2023 8:33:17 GMT
Maybe it's to speed up the baglog Seems they're dammed if they do dammed if they don't. Not that I'm defending the Torys, I hate the bastards. |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Sept 4, 2023 8:38:27 GMT
Maybe it's to speed up the baglog Seems they're dammed if they do dammed if they don't. Not that I'm defending the Torys, I hate the bastards. You’re both right. In my opinion they’re trying to cut corners and play catch-up due to their own ineptness. |
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Post by Gawa on Sept 4, 2023 8:49:07 GMT
Maybe it's to speed up the baglog Seems they're dammed if they do dammed if they don't. Not that I'm defending the Torys, I hate the bastards. Guess it depends how much you care about immigration really. We've already heard from Suella Braverman about all the criminals and child grooming gangs coming over posed as asylum seekers. If you don't find it concerning that they're spending 1/10th of the time interviewing and scrutinising them then that's fair enough. 2 days ago we had 872 people arrive on small boats - the biggest number since Rishi pledged to stop them. This to me sounds like a desperate last ditch attempt to reduce the numbers at a risk to our own and our children's safety. Maybe we will start doing 30 minute court hearings too to reduce that backlog. Might mean people like Lucy Letby get found innocent and get put back on the street. But at least the numbers will look good. |
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Post by slippyblunger on Sept 4, 2023 10:08:04 GMT
Maybe it's to speed up the baglog Seems they're dammed if they do dammed if they don't. Not that I'm defending the Torys, I hate the bastards. Guess it depends how much you care about immigration really. We've already heard from Suella Braverman about all the criminals and child grooming gangs coming over posed as asylum seekers. If you don't find it concerning that they're spending 1/10th of the time interviewing and scrutinising them then that's fair enough. 2 days ago we had 872 people arrive on small boats - the biggest number since Rishi pledged to stop them. This to me sounds like a desperate last ditch attempt to reduce the numbers at a risk to our own and our children's safety. Maybe we will start doing 30 minute court hearings too to reduce that backlog. Might mean people like Lucy Letby get found innocent and get put back on the street. But at least the numbers will look good. Anything other than a complete ban and a complete closure of the borders to mass economic migrants isn't good enough for me mate so I kind of agree but I kind of don't. The Tories won't fix the countries problems and neither will Labour but in our so called democracy I suppose them are the only choices we have. It's why I class 'my people' and 'my tribe' as those that share my values, my traditions and my outlook. I can't control what state the country ends up in but I certainly can control who I let enter my world. |
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Post by musik on Sept 4, 2023 10:17:42 GMT
Uncontrolled immigration
is the title.
Wait until the climate crisis strikes hard in the future and 100 million people are banging on the door to get into the UK. And just as many, 100 million people, wait for Scandinavia to open up.
It will happen. The only question is when. In 10 years? 50? 100?
And what do we do then?
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Post by Gawa on Sept 4, 2023 10:42:23 GMT
Uncontrolled immigration is the title. Wait until the climate crisis strikes hard in the future and 100 million people are banging on the door to get into the UK. And just as many, 100 million people, wait for Scandinavia to open up. It will happen. The only question is when. In 10 years? 50? 100? And what do we do then? Build an Ark. |
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Post by lordb on Sept 4, 2023 11:02:11 GMT
Uncontrolled paranoia
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2023 11:06:24 GMT
Maybe it's to speed up the baglog Seems they're dammed if they do dammed if they don't. Not that I'm defending the Torys, I hate the bastards. If their goal is to actually tackle this issue, I don’t know why they don’t just employ more people to handle the problem…. Simple solutions to simple problems. I’m not sure why it isn’t brought up by media outlets every time this issue is being raised. |
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Post by Eggybread on Sept 4, 2023 11:15:21 GMT
Asylum seekers only make up a small percentage of our overall immigration, so even if we cut down the amount seeking asylum (most are granted asylum too)it isn't going to affect the immigration stats that much anyway.
I think its around 15%
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Post by slippyblunger on Sept 4, 2023 11:15:35 GMT
Uncontrolled immigration is the title. Wait until the climate crisis strikes hard in the future and 100 million people are banging on the door to get into the UK. And just as many, 100 million people, wait for Scandinavia to open up. It will happen. The only question is when. In 10 years? 50? 100? And what do we do then? They won't be knocking on my door and nor will those that let it happen. |
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Post by Gawa on Nov 15, 2023 11:23:16 GMT
Record levels of immigration, millions spent daily lining the pockets of tory donors to put them up in hotels, backlog longer than Santa's Christmas list and a full year wasted on a fag packet idea that everyone new was illegal and wouldn't be approved.
Torys. The party that deals with immigration 🤣
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Post by musik on Nov 15, 2023 13:29:30 GMT
2 hotels here in Stevenage now full of immigrants, which has meant my normal place has gone up £50 a night absolute disgrace, the country is a cesspit of illegal immigrants, economic migrants, drugs, crime and sex slavery. It seems you haven't followed the Swedish approach on this. I can respect a socialist or communist even if we don't agree on everything, but the new left here are just irresponsible academics with a great appetite for experimentation and bizarre ideas, far far away from the working class. But this time it seems ALL political parties including them agree on one thing at least: decreasing our population. Possibly apart from the Green Party, but they keep quiet. The latest idea from our government supporting SD party is, instead of getting further social benefits (child money), you will have to do the opposite, PAY, if you get more than two children. Still waiting for to be decided though in our parliament (Riksdagen). A step towards even more preventing far away people to establish in Sweden. We have also started different type of agreements with non-European countries on different matters. So, how are our government political parties doing then, according to the People?? Well, that's what surprises me. I think the standings last time I checked were government parties (incl SD) 43% and the other parties 52%, 5% other parties/haven't decided, something like that. Why? It could be the fact our government really talks about and shows our problems. The former left side government didn't, so therefore people through media believe these are new problems connected to who runs the country now. No government have made so many law changes, started deportation of criminals, started a dialogue and co-operation with these non-European countries before. That said, the majority of people escaping from their home countries for instance by boat with too many people on a dangerous journey do it for a good reason, to survive war, criminality or really bad national finances and to have a decent life somewhere else. Question is though, what's the long term solution? I actually agree with our SD party on this, it must be better to help the people in their own home countries. The solution long term is probably not having half the populations everywhere move. We must separate criminal actions from surviving and escaping. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Nov 15, 2023 14:02:54 GMT
2 hotels here in Stevenage now full of immigrants, which has meant my normal place has gone up £50 a night absolute disgrace, the country is a cesspit of illegal immigrants, economic migrants, drugs, crime and sex slavery. The problem with illegal immigration is that government hasn't invested enough in an efficient processing system. Get that right and those with no claim for asylum would be returned to their country of origin much quicker and those with a genuine claim for asylum get to stay. It would hopefully also mean picking up anyone with a criminal record from doing any harm. The Rwanda plan is really just a way of doing what we should be doing on our own soil on the cheap. Only it's proved anything but cheap. And illegal. Every migrant who settles perfectly legally in the UK is in effect an economic migrant and those migrants make a net positive contribution to the UK economy. Zero immigration would be an economic disaster for the UK, especially as the birthrate would mean the population would shrink and the proportion of economically inactive older people would increase which in turn would drive more people to emigrate. A rational immigration policy has to allow for some degree of immigration and that means having a system in place to manage the policy. None of the main parties want to admit this and as a result we don't have an effective system to deal with legal immigration either which in turn drives people through the illegal route. Some migrants may well be involved in drugs, crime and sex slavery but reducing immigration to zero isn't going to resolve those issues. Conflating those issues with the issue of immigration is just cheap mud slinging. It does nothing to address the real issues and just serves to unfairly represent those who have settled here, the vast majority of whom are hardworking and make a positive contribution to the UK. |
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Nov 15, 2023 14:12:53 GMT
How much has been spent on the Rwanda scheme so far, £140m?
Not a single person has moved as part of the scheme, and not a single person will ever move as part of the Rwanda scheme.
It was a shit idea at the outset which should have been laughed out of town.
For a party preaching conservatism, they haven't half frittered money up the wall. And by 'up the wall', I obviously mean into their own pockets.
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