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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 27, 2023 13:01:56 GMT
But you have never criticised him or said that you disagree with him...Utterly bizarre... This is such a weird way to go about point scoring conversations. If I don’t criticize Hitler at the beginning of a conversation about al-Assad, is that bizarre as well. Should I be preparing a list of scum at the beginning of every conversation: “I condemn Hitler, Hamas, Choudhary, Modi, Stalin, al-Assad, The Transitional Sovereignty Council of Sudan, Abdel Fattah al-Burhan…….” Exactly. I nearly used Hitler myself. |
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Nov 27, 2023 13:10:15 GMT
But you have never criticised him or said that you disagree with him...Utterly bizarre... But you have never criticised or said that you disagree with Enoch Powell, which is equally as bizarre. See how easy that was? 🤦♂️ Just because YOU'VE randomly decided to introduce Choudry into the conversation, it doesn't then mean, that you're now in a position to criticise other people for not criticising him previously. Of course I disagreed with Enoch Powell, He was a fucking Wolves supporter.... |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 27, 2023 13:12:19 GMT
But you have never criticised or said that you disagree with Enoch Powell, which is equally as bizarre. See how easy that was? 🤦♂️ Just because YOU'VE randomly decided to introduce Choudry into the conversation, it doesn't then mean, that you're now in a position to criticise other people for not criticising him previously. Of course I disagreed with Enoch Powell, He was a fucking Wolves supporter.... Not like you, to completely miss the point ... |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 27, 2023 13:13:35 GMT
He's in jail ya daft bugger...and rightly so. But you have never criticised him or said that you disagree with him...Utterly bizarre... Piss poor effort at deflection mate, really is. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 27, 2023 13:13:44 GMT
He's in jail ya daft bugger...and rightly so. But you have never criticised him or said that you disagree with him...Utterly bizarre... What's he supposed to do? Try to guess who you might chuck into the discussion and make sure he's gets some condemnation in first, in case you find it bizarre that he hasn't done so?  |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 27, 2023 13:16:41 GMT
It's also a good job the anti-fascists on Cable Street back then didn't share the same opinions as yourself. Maybe there’s a better option like letting the police deal with it as they did the other day. On that note what big difference have you made that I haven’t. The only difference I see is that we share similar views re Tommy Robinson but you’ve told him on a footy website to Fo to Tenerife and I didn’t. On cable street that day the local population took the situation into their own hands. Similar thing happened in Liverpool when Moseley tried to preach his hate there, the dockers took care of him. You actually said he has a right to free speech, I don't - there's our difference right there mate. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 27, 2023 13:17:46 GMT
But you have never criticised him or said that you disagree with him...Utterly bizarre... This is such a weird way to go about point scoring conversations. If I don’t criticize Hitler at the beginning of a conversation about al-Assad, is that bizarre as well? Should I be preparing a list of scum at the beginning of every conversation: “I condemn Hitler, Hamas, Choudhary, Modi, Stalin, al-Assad, The Transitional Sovereignty Council of Sudan, Abdel Fattah al-Burhan…….” You've never said anything about those terrorists who crashed planes into the Twin Towers. Bizarre. You must be a terrorist-lover. |
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Nov 27, 2023 13:25:53 GMT
Of course I disagreed with Enoch Powell, He was a fucking Wolves supporter.... Not like you, to completely miss the point ... Touche Turtle. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 27, 2023 13:29:53 GMT
This is such a weird way to go about point scoring conversations. If I don’t criticize Hitler at the beginning of a conversation about al-Assad, is that bizarre as well? Should I be preparing a list of scum at the beginning of every conversation: “I condemn Hitler, Hamas, Choudhary, Modi, Stalin, al-Assad, The Transitional Sovereignty Council of Sudan, Abdel Fattah al-Burhan…….” You've never said anything about those terrorists who crashed planes into the Twin Towers. Bizarre. You must be a terrorist-lover. 😎 |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Nov 27, 2023 13:40:55 GMT
Maybe there’s a better option like letting the police deal with it as they did the other day. On that note what big difference have you made that I haven’t. The only difference I see is that we share similar views re Tommy Robinson but you’ve told him on a footy website to Fo to Tenerife and I didn’t. On cable street that day the local population took the situation into their own hands. Similar thing happened in Liverpool when Moseley tried to preach his hate there, the dockers took care of him. You actually said he has a right to free speech, I don't - there's our difference right there mate. Free speech is fine until it turns into abuse or causes genuine distress to someone. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2023 13:41:07 GMT
This is such a weird way to go about point scoring conversations. If I don’t criticize Hitler at the beginning of a conversation about al-Assad, is that bizarre as well? Should I be preparing a list of scum at the beginning of every conversation: “I condemn Hitler, Hamas, Choudhary, Modi, Stalin, al-Assad, The Transitional Sovereignty Council of Sudan, Abdel Fattah al-Burhan…….” You've never said anything about those terrorists who crashed planes into the Twin Towers. Bizarre. You must be a terrorist-lover. I would love it if the next time a “journalist” asks someone “do you condemn Hamas” to a person discussing civilian deaths, if that person spent the remainder of the segment listing all the organizations they condemn. People on the left and right should do the same. Ratings would drop and “journalists” would maybe go back to just asking relevant questions. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 27, 2023 14:35:21 GMT
On cable street that day the local population took the situation into their own hands. Similar thing happened in Liverpool when Moseley tried to preach his hate there, the dockers took care of him. You actually said he has a right to free speech, I don't - there's our difference right there mate. Free speech is fine until it turns into abuse or causes genuine distress to someone. And free speech is what people like Yaxley Lennon would take away from you. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 27, 2023 14:39:29 GMT
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Nov 27, 2023 15:17:44 GMT
Free speech is fine until it turns into abuse or causes genuine distress to someone. And free speech is what people like Yaxley Lennon would take away from you. But isn’t that what the far left do too? By not allowing him to speak you’re playing into his hands and this is exactly why the likes of Lawrence Fox jump all over incidents like the weekends and manipulate social media to say that they’re the ones who’ve been cancelled and try to gain sympathy. Isn’t it up to people to make their own minds up? In some ways this board is a reflection on society in relation to the far left turning certain threads into echo chambers ganging up and shaming posters into not having their own opinions because they’re accused of being facists or facist sympathisers when all they’re actually doing is having a different view on things. It doesn’t make them into a lesser person because to be frank there’s more to life than politics. Not everyone that doesn’t love Corbyn or votes Tory is a facist in the same way that not everyone who votes Labour or is in favour of covid vaccinations is a Socialist. Sometimes it’s nice to have views that are a bit of both. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 27, 2023 15:25:48 GMT
And free speech is what people like Yaxley Lennon would take away from you. But isn’t that what the far left do too? By not allowing him to speak you’re playing into his hands and this is exactly why the likes of Lawrence Fox jump all over incidents like the weekends and manipulate social media to say that they’re the ones who’ve been cancelled and try to gain sympathy. Isn’t it up to people to make their own minds up? In some ways this board is a reflection on society in relation to the far left turning certain threads into echo chambers ganging up and shaming posters into not having their own opinions because they’re accused of being facists or facist sympathisers when all they’re actually doing is having a different view on things. It doesn’t make them into a lesser person because to be frank there’s more to life than politics. Not everyone that doesn’t love Corbyn or votes Tory is a facist in the same way that not everyone who votes Labour or is in favour of covid vaccinations is a Socialist. Sometimes it’s nice to have views that are a bit of both. I refer you back to Germany in the 1930's - good people (just like you now) did nothing. And to suggest that Jeremy Corbyn would end free speech is quite frankly disingenuous. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 27, 2023 15:26:50 GMT
And free speech is what people like Yaxley Lennon would take away from you. But isn’t that what the far left do too? By not allowing him to speak you’re playing into his hands and this is exactly why the likes of Lawrence Fox jump all over incidents like the weekends and manipulate social media to say that they’re the ones who’ve been cancelled and try to gain sympathy. Isn’t it up to people to make their own minds up? In some ways this board is a reflection on society in relation to the far left turning certain threads into echo chambers ganging up and shaming posters into not having their own opinions because they’re accused of being facists or facist sympathisers when all they’re actually doing is having a different view on things. It doesn’t make them into a lesser person because to be frank there’s more to life than politics. Not everyone that doesn’t love Corbyn or votes Tory is a facist in the same way that not everyone who votes Labour or is in favour of covid vaccinations is a Socialist. Sometimes it’s nice to have views that are a bit of both. Who's been ganging up and shaming posters for having their own opinions? Sounds awful you must name names......... |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 27, 2023 15:28:56 GMT
And free speech is what people like Yaxley Lennon would take away from you. But isn’t that what the far left do too? By not allowing him to speak you’re playing into his hands and this is exactly why the likes of Lawrence Fox jump all over incidents like the weekends and manipulate social media to say that they’re the ones who’ve been cancelled and try to gain sympathy. Isn’t it up to people to make their own minds up? In some ways this board is a reflection on society in relation to the far left turning certain threads into echo chambers ganging up and shaming posters into not having their own opinions because they’re accused of being facists or facist sympathisers when all they’re actually doing is having a different view on things. It doesn’t make them into a lesser person because to be frank there’s more to life than politics. Not everyone that doesn’t love Corbyn or votes Tory is a facist in the same way that not everyone who votes Labour or is in favour of covid vaccinations is a Socialist. Sometimes it’s nice to have views that are a bit of both. Oh...and there are a fair few on here right now directly supporting fascists by sharing their abhorrent views, followed by others "liking" their posts. But according to you all ok.... |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Nov 27, 2023 15:45:36 GMT
But isn’t that what the far left do too? By not allowing him to speak you’re playing into his hands and this is exactly why the likes of Lawrence Fox jump all over incidents like the weekends and manipulate social media to say that they’re the ones who’ve been cancelled and try to gain sympathy. Isn’t it up to people to make their own minds up? In some ways this board is a reflection on society in relation to the far left turning certain threads into echo chambers ganging up and shaming posters into not having their own opinions because they’re accused of being facists or facist sympathisers when all they’re actually doing is having a different view on things. It doesn’t make them into a lesser person because to be frank there’s more to life than politics. Not everyone that doesn’t love Corbyn or votes Tory is a facist in the same way that not everyone who votes Labour or is in favour of covid vaccinations is a Socialist. Sometimes it’s nice to have views that are a bit of both. I refer you back to Germany in the 1930's - good people (just like you now) did nothing. And to suggest that Jeremy Corbyn would end free speech is quite frankly disingenuous. Where have I said that re Corbyn ending free speech? You need to read the post again I simply said that not all people who don’t fawn all over Corbyn are facists. In respect to Tommy Robinson what are you doing to change things if you don’t mind me asking other than posting on here? Before hammering me for not caring (I actually do plenty outside the MB and but I won’t say what as I don’t like to boast) what are you personally doing to stop facism? |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Nov 27, 2023 15:50:39 GMT
But isn’t that what the far left do too? By not allowing him to speak you’re playing into his hands and this is exactly why the likes of Lawrence Fox jump all over incidents like the weekends and manipulate social media to say that they’re the ones who’ve been cancelled and try to gain sympathy. Isn’t it up to people to make their own minds up? In some ways this board is a reflection on society in relation to the far left turning certain threads into echo chambers ganging up and shaming posters into not having their own opinions because they’re accused of being facists or facist sympathisers when all they’re actually doing is having a different view on things. It doesn’t make them into a lesser person because to be frank there’s more to life than politics. Not everyone that doesn’t love Corbyn or votes Tory is a facist in the same way that not everyone who votes Labour or is in favour of covid vaccinations is a Socialist. Sometimes it’s nice to have views that are a bit of both. Oh...and there are a fair few on here right now directly supporting fascists by sharing their abhorrent views, followed by others "liking" their posts. But according to you all ok.... Huddy what I would say is you need to be careful re using the word “facist” as it’s pretty insulting and though there’s a lot I don’t agree with re some posters I think calling them (not sure if that’s even how you see me) is a little strong to say the least. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 27, 2023 15:54:53 GMT
Oh...and there are a fair few on here right now directly supporting fascists by sharing their abhorrent views, followed by others "liking" their posts. But according to you all ok.... Huddy what I would say is you need to be careful re using the word “facist” as it’s pretty insulting and though there’s a lot I don’t agree with re some posters I think calling them (not sure if that’s even how you see me) is a little strong to say the least. I'm pointing out that they are openly posting videos and links from genuine dyed in the wool fascists mate - thereby offering them their support or reinforcing their own views. You must have seen them yourself? |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 27, 2023 15:55:36 GMT
I refer you back to Germany in the 1930's - good people (just like you now) did nothing. And to suggest that Jeremy Corbyn would end free speech is quite frankly disingenuous. Where have I said that re Corbyn ending free speech? You need to read the post again I simply said that not all people who don’t fawn all over Corbyn are facists. In respect to Tommy Robinson what are you doing to change things if you don’t mind me asking other than posting on here? Before hammering me for not caring (I actually do plenty outside the MB and but I won’t say what as I don’t like to boast) what are you personally doing to stop facism? I've been calling it out since the age of 16, often on the streets. You? |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 27, 2023 15:57:13 GMT
I refer you back to Germany in the 1930's - good people (just like you now) did nothing. And to suggest that Jeremy Corbyn would end free speech is quite frankly disingenuous. Where have I said that re Corbyn ending free speech? You need to read the post again I simply said that not all people who don’t fawn all over Corbyn are facists. In respect to Tommy Robinson what are you doing to change things if you don’t mind me asking other than posting on here? Before hammering me for not caring (I actually do plenty outside the MB and but I won’t say what as I don’t like to boast) what are you personally doing to stop facism? Apologies - I was under the impression you view Corbyn as "hard left" and you state that the hard left also want to close down free speech. My error, sorry. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 27, 2023 15:58:24 GMT
As always this fascist POS chooses a side that's useful to him.
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Post by salopstick on Nov 27, 2023 16:07:00 GMT
And free speech is what people like Yaxley Lennon would take away from you. But isn’t that what the far left do too? By not allowing him to speak you’re playing into his hands and this is exactly why the likes of Lawrence Fox jump all over incidents like the weekends and manipulate social media to say that they’re the ones who’ve been cancelled and try to gain sympathy. Isn’t it up to people to make their own minds up? In some ways this board is a reflection on society in relation to the far left turning certain threads into echo chambers ganging up and shaming posters into not having their own opinions because they’re accused of being facists or facist sympathisers when all they’re actually doing is having a different view on things. It doesn’t make them into a lesser person because to be frank there’s more to life than politics. Not everyone that doesn’t love Corbyn or votes Tory is a facist in the same way that not everyone who votes Labour or is in favour of covid vaccinations is a Socialist. Sometimes it’s nice to have views that are a bit of both. the far left and far right have a lot more in common. it is easier for the (far) left to label anyone right of John Smith facist, racist or anyother right wing insult than to engage with them |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Nov 27, 2023 16:10:48 GMT
Huddy what I would say is you need to be careful re using the word “facist” as it’s pretty insulting and though there’s a lot I don’t agree with re some posters I think calling them (not sure if that’s even how you see me) is a little strong to say the least. I'm pointing out that they are openly posting videos and links from genuine dyed in the wool fascists mate - thereby offering them their support or reinforcing their own views. You must have seen them yourself? I don’t agree with them as for me the likes of Fox and Toushi are agitators who are just looking to twist stories to suit there own political agendas but I don’t see anything different in what they do what the likes of Owen Jones or Ash Sarker do on the left. I think I’m politically homeless if Robinson represents the Tories and Jones represents Labour as I don’t agree with any of them. For what it’s worth I’m sure both sides make some relevant points but for me both are too gobby, radical and extreme. |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Nov 27, 2023 16:12:43 GMT
Where have I said that re Corbyn ending free speech? You need to read the post again I simply said that not all people who don’t fawn all over Corbyn are facists. In respect to Tommy Robinson what are you doing to change things if you don’t mind me asking other than posting on here? Before hammering me for not caring (I actually do plenty outside the MB and but I won’t say what as I don’t like to boast) what are you personally doing to stop facism? I've been calling it out since the age of 16, often on the streets. You? I’ll PM you. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 27, 2023 16:22:59 GMT
But isn’t that what the far left do too? By not allowing him to speak you’re playing into his hands and this is exactly why the likes of Lawrence Fox jump all over incidents like the weekends and manipulate social media to say that they’re the ones who’ve been cancelled and try to gain sympathy. Isn’t it up to people to make their own minds up? In some ways this board is a reflection on society in relation to the far left turning certain threads into echo chambers ganging up and shaming posters into not having their own opinions because they’re accused of being facists or facist sympathisers when all they’re actually doing is having a different view on things. It doesn’t make them into a lesser person because to be frank there’s more to life than politics. Not everyone that doesn’t love Corbyn or votes Tory is a facist in the same way that not everyone who votes Labour or is in favour of covid vaccinations is a Socialist. Sometimes it’s nice to have views that are a bit of both. the far left and far right have a lot more in common. it is easier for the (far) left to label anyone right of John Smith facist, racist or anyother right wing insult than to engage with them There is literally no one on this board that is "far left" I would have said there was no one on the board who is "far right" either but recently a couple of posters have appeared that would make me question that. It keeps getting brought up by the same half a dozen posters who laughably talk about echo chambers which shows they lack self awareness if nothing else............. |
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Post by knype on Nov 27, 2023 16:26:41 GMT
Free speech is fine until it turns into abuse or causes genuine distress to someone. And free speech is what people like Yaxley Lennon would take away from you. And what some on here want |
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Post by knype on Nov 27, 2023 16:27:39 GMT
But isn’t that what the far left do too? By not allowing him to speak you’re playing into his hands and this is exactly why the likes of Lawrence Fox jump all over incidents like the weekends and manipulate social media to say that they’re the ones who’ve been cancelled and try to gain sympathy. Isn’t it up to people to make their own minds up? In some ways this board is a reflection on society in relation to the far left turning certain threads into echo chambers ganging up and shaming posters into not having their own opinions because they’re accused of being facists or facist sympathisers when all they’re actually doing is having a different view on things. It doesn’t make them into a lesser person because to be frank there’s more to life than politics. Not everyone that doesn’t love Corbyn or votes Tory is a facist in the same way that not everyone who votes Labour or is in favour of covid vaccinations is a Socialist. Sometimes it’s nice to have views that are a bit of both. the far left and far right have a lot more in common. it is easier for the (far) left to label anyone right of John Smith facist, racist or anyother right wing insult than to engage with them As we've seen many, many times on here |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 27, 2023 16:30:54 GMT
As always this fascist POS chooses a side that's useful to him.
Definitely fake!*
*Just getting it in early ...
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