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Post by elystokie on May 31, 2023 15:42:26 GMT
You appear, yet again, to be confusing the word 'triggered' with 'pissing yourselves laughing at me again' 😂 It's easily done 😉 To be fair this last page has absolutely made me piss myself laughing. Rowan Atkinson was so right in his depiction of the modern day woke - a bunch of bitter, angry (and well to do) people with their knives out on a witch hunt. All while claiming to be these virtuous characters. You only need to see the state of some of these posts to see their true colors. While it's kind of amusing, it is also deeply reflective of some of the grave challenges this great nation faces against this noisy minority. And if you dare question the legitimacy of a man claiming to be a woman.... As JK Rowling quickly discovered. I'd love to visit your straw man warehouse, it must be absolutely massive 😃
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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 31, 2023 15:47:47 GMT
It's pretty obvious why they can't be separated, you tool If the Tory govt. weren't doing what they are, the protesters wouldn't be doing what they are! Oh, if you only had a brain, even a small one! Are you genuinely this thick Mick? 😂Right, so it's all the Tory governments fault and the fact these losers are protesting all over Europe (most recently in Sweden) is irrelevant because it's all the Tories fault! Oil, climate change, it's all the fault of Tory scum! They are all protesting because their govts. are equally doing fuck all. If the Tory govt. actually took action, you'd see a marked decrease of these kind of people in this country...if the German govt. actually took action , you'd see a marked decrease in protests there..if the Swedish govt. took action etc. etc. It's almost like you've completely missed what protests against govts. are for. Usually, when the govt. take notice of those protests and take action, the protests tend to die down as they don't need to protest anymore. Pretty obvious and it's Protesting 101 really...and you have the nerve to call ANYONE thick
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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 31, 2023 15:53:14 GMT
To be fair this last page has absolutely made me piss myself laughing. Rowan Atkinson was so right in his depiction of the modern day woke - a bunch of bitter, angry (and well to do) people with their knives out on a witch hunt. All while claiming to be these virtuous characters. You only need to see the state of some of these posts to see their true colors. While it's kind of amusing, it is also deeply reflective of some of the grave challenges this great nation faces against this noisy minority. And if you dare question the legitimacy of a man claiming to be a woman.... As JK Rowling quickly discovered. I'd love to visit your straw man warehouse, it must be absolutely massive 😃 To be fair, strawmen are 100% necessary when you can't find an actual answer from someone to copy and paste. At least give him the courtesy of a few hours to Google someone else's ideas so he has an answer to any of the points he clearly can't actually counter, mate!
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Post by Northy on May 31, 2023 16:03:15 GMT
Good timing, where's the best place to watch the Europa cup final in Belfast tonight, Laverys on Dublin Road ? Laverys is always a solid bet for sport. Franklin's sports bar and ulster sports club I'd like to think would have it too. Franklin's is near city hall just out the back. Laverys is Dublin road as you know. Ulster sports club is cathedral quarter which has alot of good drinking spots and increased in popularity over last while. The garrick, morning star, kitchen bar, granny Annie's all would have sport on at times too and are quite close to city hall and in close proximity. Nancy Mulligans is one which comes up on Google but never been in it myself but seems to do sport and be popular. Few options there for you mate Thanks, I am staying at the Clayton on Ormeau opposite the BBC so Laverys or Franklins is nearest. Went past your ground earlier this morning on the way to Whiteabbey,and back again at lunchtime.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 31, 2023 16:06:37 GMT
To be fair this last page has absolutely made me piss myself laughing. Rowan Atkinson was so right in his depiction of the modern day woke - a bunch of bitter, angry (and well to do) people with their knives out on a witch hunt. All while claiming to be these virtuous characters. You only need to see the state of some of the above posts to see their true colors. While it's kind of amusing, it is also deeply reflective of some of the grave challenges this great nation faces against this noisy minority. And if you dare question the legitimacy of a man claiming to be a woman.... As JK Rowling quickly discovered. Hilarious that you're calling people out as "bitter, angry and with knives out" when you're the ONLY person on this thread condoning and calling for violence against people Sorry foster, but it's hard not to get personal with someone this fucking thick Not quite the only one. A couple of likers for the post that was saying violence was acceptable.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 31, 2023 16:07:28 GMT
To be fair this last page has absolutely made me piss myself laughing. Rowan Atkinson was so right in his depiction of the modern day woke - a bunch of bitter, angry (and well to do) people with their knives out on a witch hunt. All while claiming to be these virtuous characters. You only need to see the state of some of these posts to see their true colors. While it's kind of amusing, it is also deeply reflective of some of the grave challenges this great nation faces against this noisy minority. And if you dare question the legitimacy of a man claiming to be a woman.... As JK Rowling quickly discovered. I'd love to visit your straw man warehouse, it must be absolutely massive 😃 It's next door to his goalposts factory
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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 31, 2023 16:08:57 GMT
I'd love to visit your straw man warehouse, it must be absolutely massive 😃 It's next door to his goalposts factory I thought that had been moved....several times
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Post by oggyoggy on May 31, 2023 16:23:57 GMT
Redwhitenblu, oggy, Mick Mills and the infamous Elystokie like. Brilliant. All we need is wilko to pop by and start referring to right wingers as shop workers and we've got a full house 😂😂 Why should anyone be surprised that the above are willing to defend the sickening, selfish actions of just stop oil? Such a dorkish cause to be a terrorist over. Loft insulation and oil. 🙈 Where have I defended their actions? I don’t like you comparing this: With genuine terrorist attacks like 9/11, IRA, Bali bombers etc. How much of a snowflake are you to feel terror when you watch that video!?
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Post by oggyoggy on May 31, 2023 16:26:43 GMT
Yes, the protesters want to preserve our planet. They don’t go about it in the best way, granted. The tories want to extract wealth from the poor and middle and give it to the rich. Have a look at the just stop oil protest videos at the chelsea flower show and then compare them to the terrorists who hijacked planes and flew into the world trade centre, or hacked people to death with machetes on London Bridge, and then reassess who is a terrorist and who is not. But your rage at the left, the right, the middle, seems to blight your ability to think rationally. Why can't you separate just stop oil terrorists and the Tory government? It's as bizarre as your inability to differentiate between Brexit and just about any other subject. Is this terrorism in your opinion? Why are you bringing up brexit?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 31, 2023 16:29:56 GMT
Aren't quite a few thread titles personal digs though mate. I have no issue with oil or climate change protestors personally. Dork and proud mate. Dork and proud. They are (and that's fine, you enter the thread on that basis, knowing what it will be like) but this one wasn't. Most people came onto a thread simply to discuss an issue, it was then specifically changed to a different name because one poster asked the OP to, solely to turn the thread title into a dig at the protesters. That's just disingenuous and poor tbh and if the thread title is now just an excuse to take a pop at people, then that's what the thread itself will end up being. 😀
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Post by gawa on May 31, 2023 16:34:30 GMT
So I've just come back from one of the worst days of my life lads. And guess how it all started? Running into those bloody just stop oil dorks blocking the road as if they've got nothing better to do or any jobs to go to. Couldn't believe the absolute cheek of the twats thinking they can just sit there and mess with everyones lives cause they've naff all better to do. Honestly was making my blood boil watching this pretentious globalists getting on like they own the road. They don't care in the slightest about hardworking folks like me trying to make our ends meet.
Worst of all this was only the start of the day. So after the whole escapade with the protestors I was 2 minutes late getting to tesco to pick up my lunch. Needed to go for a quick piss so thought I'd do it while I was there, wish I didn't. No word of a lie I'm pretty sure there was a woman in the gents, at least it looked like a woman anyway. Literally got my questioning what the worlds coming to. Another example of entitled pricks that only care about themselves and have no respect at all for the traditions and cultures of this great country.
After such a shit day I thought I'd treat myself to a chippy on the way home. Wish I didn't fuckin bother. Firstly the guy serving me was one of these foreigners who could barely speak english. Didn't matter how slow or clear I spoke he just kept tryin tell me that I couldn't get a fish supper for a tenner anymore. Who the hecks he to tell me what I can and can't get, I've been going to that chippy for years and he looks like he's fresh of one of those bloody calais boats. Couldn't even be annoyed argueing with him in the end so just got a portion of chips and a couple of sausages and was done with it. Won't be back there anytime soon.
And if that wasn't enough, I finally made it home only to find out that the leccy's ran out and I wasted my last tenner on the chippy. Don't even get paid till tomorrow. So here I am sat on my mobile phone typing this out.
Something needs to change with this country quick. It's a disgrace that hard working people like me can't even afford fucking electric in this day and age. Our money is being sucked dry by these self entitled leeches in this country. Those asylum seekers don't even have anything to run from fuck sake, they come over here just to steal our benefits and sit on their hole contributing nothing. And then don't get me started on this whole trans bullshit either. Sick to the teeth of paying my taxes for some bloke, or woman, or whatever they fucking go by to get a prosthetic penis implanted in them. And don't forgot those middle class just stop oil dorks either and the billions of pounds they're costing their country with their pathetic little protests.
It's about time we put an end to this madness and actually took action to save our great country and hold these robbing bastards to account. These are the very same people which will happily bad mouth hard working men like Boris Johnson who bring millions into the economy while they sit at home eating up all our taxes for a free ride. And what about people like us? We're stuck choosing between a chippy or electric fuck sake. And by chippy I literally mean just chips. Countries gone mad.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 31, 2023 16:38:10 GMT
So I've just come back from one of the worst days of my life lads. And guess how it all started? Running into those bloody just stop oil dorks blocking the road as if they've got nothing better to do or any jobs to go to. Couldn't believe the absolute cheek of the twats thinking they can just sit there and mess with everyones lives cause they've naff all better to do. Honestly was making my blood boil watching this pretentious globalists getting on like they own the road. They don't care in the slightest about hardworking folks like me trying to make our ends meet. Worst of all this was only the start of the day. So after the whole escapade with the protestors I was 2 minutes late getting to tesco to pick up my lunch. Needed to go for a quick piss so thought I'd do it while I was there, wish I didn't. No word of a lie I'm pretty sure there was a woman in the gents, at least it looked like a woman anyway. Literally got my questioning what the worlds coming to. Another example of entitled pricks that only care about themselves and have no respect at all for the traditions and cultures of this great country. After such a shit day I thought I'd treat myself to a chippy on the way home. Wish I didn't fuckin bother. Firstly the guy serving me was one of these foreigners who could barely speak english. Didn't matter how slow or clear I spoke he just kept tryin tell me that I couldn't get a fish supper for a tenner anymore. Who the hecks he to tell me what I can and can't get, I've been going to that chippy for years and he looks like he's fresh of one of those bloody calais boats. Couldn't even be annoyed argueing with him in the end so just got a portion of chips and a couple of sausages and was done with it. Won't be back there anytime soon. And if that wasn't enough, I finally made it home only to find out that the leccy's ran out and I wasted my last tenner on the chippy. Don't even get paid till tomorrow. So here I am sat on my mobile phone typing this out. Something needs to change with this country quick. It's a disgrace that hard working people like me can't even afford fucking electric in this day and age. Our money is being sucked dry by these self entitled leeches in this country. Those asylum seekers don't even have anything to run from fuck sake, they come over here just to steal our benefits and sit on their hole contributing nothing. And then don't get me started on this whole trans bullshit either. Sick to the teeth of paying my taxes for some bloke, or woman, or whatever they fucking go by to get a prosthetic penis implanted in them. And don't forgot those middle class just stop oil dorks either and the billions of pounds they're costing their country with their pathetic little protests. It's about time we put an end to this madness and actually took action to save our great country and hold these robbing bastards to account. These are the very same people which will happily bad mouth hard working men like Boris Johnson who bring millions into the economy while they sit at home eating up all our taxes for a free ride. And what about people like us? We're stuck choosing between a chippy or electric fuck sake. And by chippy I literally mean just chips. Countries gone mad. /s Very good😀👏🏻
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Post by Clayton Wood on May 31, 2023 16:42:49 GMT
So I've just come back from one of the worst days of my life lads. And guess how it all started? Running into those bloody just stop oil dorks blocking the road as if they've got nothing better to do or any jobs to go to. Couldn't believe the absolute cheek of the twats thinking they can just sit there and mess with everyones lives cause they've naff all better to do. Honestly was making my blood boil watching this pretentious globalists getting on like they own the road. They don't care in the slightest about hardworking folks like me trying to make our ends meet. Worst of all this was only the start of the day. So after the whole escapade with the protestors I was 2 minutes late getting to tesco to pick up my lunch. Needed to go for a quick piss so thought I'd do it while I was there, wish I didn't. No word of a lie I'm pretty sure there was a woman in the gents, at least it looked like a woman anyway. Literally got my questioning what the worlds coming to. Another example of entitled pricks that only care about themselves and have no respect at all for the traditions and cultures of this great country. After such a shit day I thought I'd treat myself to a chippy on the way home. Wish I didn't fuckin bother. Firstly the guy serving me was one of these foreigners who could barely speak english. Didn't matter how slow or clear I spoke he just kept tryin tell me that I couldn't get a fish supper for a tenner anymore. Who the hecks he to tell me what I can and can't get, I've been going to that chippy for years and he looks like he's fresh of one of those bloody calais boats. Couldn't even be annoyed argueing with him in the end so just got a portion of chips and a couple of sausages and was done with it. Won't be back there anytime soon. And if that wasn't enough, I finally made it home only to find out that the leccy's ran out and I wasted my last tenner on the chippy. Don't even get paid till tomorrow. So here I am sat on my mobile phone typing this out. Something needs to change with this country quick. It's a disgrace that hard working people like me can't even afford fucking electric in this day and age. Our money is being sucked dry by these self entitled leeches in this country. Those asylum seekers don't even have anything to run from fuck sake, they come over here just to steal our benefits and sit on their hole contributing nothing. And then don't get me started on this whole trans bullshit either. Sick to the teeth of paying my taxes for some bloke, or woman, or whatever they fucking go by to get a prosthetic penis implanted in them. And don't forgot those middle class just stop oil dorks either and the billions of pounds they're costing their country with their pathetic little protests. It's about time we put an end to this madness and actually took action to save our great country and hold these robbing bastards to account. These are the very same people which will happily bad mouth hard working men like Boris Johnson who bring millions into the economy while they sit at home eating up all our taxes for a free ride. And what about people like us? We're stuck choosing between a chippy or electric fuck sake. And by chippy I literally mean just chips. Countries gone mad. /s If you'd typed this on your mobile it would have said 'via mobile'. It doesn't. I call bullshit on that part.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 31, 2023 16:43:14 GMT
So I've just come back from one of the worst days of my life lads. And guess how it all started? Running into those bloody just stop oil dorks blocking the road as if they've got nothing better to do or any jobs to go to. Couldn't believe the absolute cheek of the twats thinking they can just sit there and mess with everyones lives cause they've naff all better to do. Honestly was making my blood boil watching this pretentious globalists getting on like they own the road. They don't care in the slightest about hardworking folks like me trying to make our ends meet. Worst of all this was only the start of the day. So after the whole escapade with the protestors I was 2 minutes late getting to tesco to pick up my lunch. Needed to go for a quick piss so thought I'd do it while I was there, wish I didn't. No word of a lie I'm pretty sure there was a woman in the gents, at least it looked like a woman anyway. Literally got my questioning what the worlds coming to. Another example of entitled pricks that only care about themselves and have no respect at all for the traditions and cultures of this great country. After such a shit day I thought I'd treat myself to a chippy on the way home. Wish I didn't fuckin bother. Firstly the guy serving me was one of these foreigners who could barely speak english. Didn't matter how slow or clear I spoke he just kept tryin tell me that I couldn't get a fish supper for a tenner anymore. Who the hecks he to tell me what I can and can't get, I've been going to that chippy for years and he looks like he's fresh of one of those bloody calais boats. Couldn't even be annoyed argueing with him in the end so just got a portion of chips and a couple of sausages and was done with it. Won't be back there anytime soon. And if that wasn't enough, I finally made it home only to find out that the leccy's ran out and I wasted my last tenner on the chippy. Don't even get paid till tomorrow. So here I am sat on my mobile phone typing this out. Something needs to change with this country quick. It's a disgrace that hard working people like me can't even afford fucking electric in this day and age. Our money is being sucked dry by these self entitled leeches in this country. Those asylum seekers don't even have anything to run from fuck sake, they come over here just to steal our benefits and sit on their hole contributing nothing. And then don't get me started on this whole trans bullshit either. Sick to the teeth of paying my taxes for some bloke, or woman, or whatever they fucking go by to get a prosthetic penis implanted in them. And don't forgot those middle class just stop oil dorks either and the billions of pounds they're costing their country with their pathetic little protests. It's about time we put an end to this madness and actually took action to save our great country and hold these robbing bastards to account. These are the very same people which will happily bad mouth hard working men like Boris Johnson who bring millions into the economy while they sit at home eating up all our taxes for a free ride. And what about people like us? We're stuck choosing between a chippy or electric fuck sake. And by chippy I literally mean just chips. Countries gone mad. /s
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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 31, 2023 16:47:36 GMT
They are (and that's fine, you enter the thread on that basis, knowing what it will be like) but this one wasn't. Most people came onto a thread simply to discuss an issue, it was then specifically changed to a different name because one poster asked the OP to, solely to turn the thread title into a dig at the protesters. That's just disingenuous and poor tbh and if the thread title is now just an excuse to take a pop at people, then that's what the thread itself will end up being. 😀 All your fault badge I bet even you didn't know how much influence you held!
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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 31, 2023 16:48:27 GMT
Why can't you separate just stop oil terrorists and the Tory government? It's as bizarre as your inability to differentiate between Brexit and just about any other subject. Is this terrorism in your opinion? Why are you bringing up brexit? Yes, based solely on the facts that 1) he doesn't agree with them and 2) massive hyperbole gets the biggest impact.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 31, 2023 16:51:23 GMT
Is this terrorism in your opinion? Why are you bringing up brexit? Yes, based solely on the facts that 1) he doesn't agree with them and 2) massive hyperbole gets the biggest impact. Edit: I wonder if he'd be calling them terrorists if they'd done exactly the same thing 2 years ago but said it was anti lockdown Protesting...i suspect we all know the answer to that one
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 31, 2023 16:53:12 GMT
All your fault badge I bet even you didn't know how much influence you held! I didn’t realise there’d be such a meltdown tbh but it’s been entertaining reading during work never the less😉
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Post by gawa on May 31, 2023 16:56:28 GMT
So I've just come back from one of the worst days of my life lads. And guess how it all started? Running into those bloody just stop oil dorks blocking the road as if they've got nothing better to do or any jobs to go to. Couldn't believe the absolute cheek of the twats thinking they can just sit there and mess with everyones lives cause they've naff all better to do. Honestly was making my blood boil watching this pretentious globalists getting on like they own the road. They don't care in the slightest about hardworking folks like me trying to make our ends meet. Worst of all this was only the start of the day. So after the whole escapade with the protestors I was 2 minutes late getting to tesco to pick up my lunch. Needed to go for a quick piss so thought I'd do it while I was there, wish I didn't. No word of a lie I'm pretty sure there was a woman in the gents, at least it looked like a woman anyway. Literally got my questioning what the worlds coming to. Another example of entitled pricks that only care about themselves and have no respect at all for the traditions and cultures of this great country. After such a shit day I thought I'd treat myself to a chippy on the way home. Wish I didn't fuckin bother. Firstly the guy serving me was one of these foreigners who could barely speak english. Didn't matter how slow or clear I spoke he just kept tryin tell me that I couldn't get a fish supper for a tenner anymore. Who the hecks he to tell me what I can and can't get, I've been going to that chippy for years and he looks like he's fresh of one of those bloody calais boats. Couldn't even be annoyed argueing with him in the end so just got a portion of chips and a couple of sausages and was done with it. Won't be back there anytime soon. And if that wasn't enough, I finally made it home only to find out that the leccy's ran out and I wasted my last tenner on the chippy. Don't even get paid till tomorrow. So here I am sat on my mobile phone typing this out. Something needs to change with this country quick. It's a disgrace that hard working people like me can't even afford fucking electric in this day and age. Our money is being sucked dry by these self entitled leeches in this country. Those asylum seekers don't even have anything to run from fuck sake, they come over here just to steal our benefits and sit on their hole contributing nothing. And then don't get me started on this whole trans bullshit either. Sick to the teeth of paying my taxes for some bloke, or woman, or whatever they fucking go by to get a prosthetic penis implanted in them. And don't forgot those middle class just stop oil dorks either and the billions of pounds they're costing their country with their pathetic little protests. It's about time we put an end to this madness and actually took action to save our great country and hold these robbing bastards to account. These are the very same people which will happily bad mouth hard working men like Boris Johnson who bring millions into the economy while they sit at home eating up all our taxes for a free ride. And what about people like us? We're stuck choosing between a chippy or electric fuck sake. And by chippy I literally mean just chips. Countries gone mad. /s If you'd typed this on your mobile it would have said 'via mobile'. It doesn't. I call bullshit on that part. Guilty! 😜 On a serious note though there does need to be more done about all this. While it doesn't affect me day to day or bother me it doesn't mean it doesn't annoy others. Don't agree with violence but I don't think these protests help them with their message either as it rubs people up the wrong way. They should do more to target the big oil companies and disrupt them rather than working people in my opinion. Go to the shell and BP offices and sit outside the car park or chain yourself to their premises and impact their day to day running.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 31, 2023 17:02:34 GMT
If you'd typed this on your mobile it would have said 'via mobile'. It doesn't. I call bullshit on that part. Guilty! 😜 On a serious note though there does need to be more done about all this. While it doesn't affect me day to day or bother me it doesn't mean it doesn't annoy others. Don't agree with violence but I don't think these protests help them with their message either as it rubs people up the wrong way. They should do more to target the big oil companies and disrupt them rather than working people in my opinion. Go to the shell and BP offices and sit outside the car park or chain yourself to their premises and impact their day to day running. Absolutely spot on in your last paragraph, why others can’t see this is a mystery
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Post by Davef on May 31, 2023 17:08:16 GMT
Looks like the Police were dragging the dork, sorry, protester, on to the road...
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Post by Clayton Wood on May 31, 2023 17:29:53 GMT
If you'd typed this on your mobile it would have said 'via mobile'. It doesn't. I call bullshit on that part. Guilty! 😜 On a serious note though there does need to be more done about all this. While it doesn't affect me day to day or bother me it doesn't mean it doesn't annoy others. Don't agree with violence but I don't think these protests help them with their message either as it rubs people up the wrong way. They should do more to target the big oil companies and disrupt them rather than working people in my opinion. Go to the shell and BP offices and sit outside the car park or chain yourself to their premises and impact their day to day running. Y'know in a parallel universe these people would be declared as 'radicalised'.
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Post by metalhead on May 31, 2023 18:47:46 GMT
I am amazed that people actually believe the thing they are protesting isn't a worthy cause. To be clear, what they are protesting should unite literally everyone.
Global ecological systems are merely years away from collapsing and huge parts of the planet will be uninhabitable. You worry about migration now, wait until half the world is uninhabitable, either due to rising sea levels or the fact that various parts of the third world will be so dangerous that no human can realistically expect to live there. Trust me, those currently scranning in the Quality Hotel will be the least of your worries.
It's hard to support the tactics of Just Stop Oil and Insulate Britain because they hurt ordinary working people during most of their protests. However their message is a positive one and we should really be supporting them.
However, shitting on the rugby final? Snooker? Football matches? Chelsea flower show? Outside parliament (hopefully one day)? Crack on. This kind of protest hurts nobody and hopefully keeps a level of momentum up that will get them noticed.
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Post by thevoid on May 31, 2023 18:54:42 GMT
Guilty! 😜 On a serious note though there does need to be more done about all this. While it doesn't affect me day to day or bother me it doesn't mean it doesn't annoy others. Don't agree with violence but I don't think these protests help them with their message either as it rubs people up the wrong way. They should do more to target the big oil companies and disrupt them rather than working people in my opinion. Go to the shell and BP offices and sit outside the car park or chain yourself to their premises and impact their day to day running. Absolutely spot on in your last paragraph, why others can’t see this is a mystery Not to mention the tossers have stopped ambulances (and cars carrying ill people) from getting through
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Post by Clayton Wood on May 31, 2023 19:01:34 GMT
Absolutely spot on in your last paragraph, why others can’t see this is a mystery Not to mention the tossers have stopped ambulances (and cars carrying ill people) from getting through I wonder how they get from Skelmersdale or Oxford to Twickenham or Sheffield?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 31, 2023 19:05:17 GMT
I am amazed that people actually believe the thing they are protesting isn't a worthy cause. To be clear, what they are protesting should unite literally everyone. Global ecological systems are merely years away from collapsing and huge parts of the planet will be uninhabitable. You worry about migration now, wait until half the world is uninhabitable, either due to rising sea levels or the fact that various parts of the third world will be so dangerous that no human can realistically expect to live there. Trust me, those currently scranning in the Quality Hotel will be the least of your worries. It's hard to support the tactics of Just Stop Oil and Insulate Britain because they hurt ordinary working people during most of their protests. However their message is a positive one and we should really be supporting them. However, shitting on the rugby final? Snooker? Football matches? Chelsea flower show? Outside parliament (hopefully one day)? Crack on. This kind of protest hurts nobody and hopefully keeps a level of momentum up that will get them noticed. I think if people want to protest about something they believe in then that’s fine, even if they are self entitled dorks! But if they feel so strongly about it they should be attacking the very companies/politicians they have beef with. They say it’s exposure and bringing the issue to the public but it really isn’t. People have their own minds and won’t stand for disruption much longer. I do actually believe that much of the protests are about bandwagon jumping because they’ve got fuck all else to do though. Generally made up of students and retirees (that word looks wrong but I’ll go with it). As the country is today we need unity and not division.
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Post by andystokey on May 31, 2023 19:09:13 GMT
If you'd typed this on your mobile it would have said 'via mobile'. It doesn't. I call bullshit on that part. Guilty! 😜 On a serious note though there does need to be more done about all this. While it doesn't affect me day to day or bother me it doesn't mean it doesn't annoy others. Don't agree with violence but I don't think these protests help them with their message either as it rubs people up the wrong way. They should do more to target the big oil companies and disrupt them rather than working people in my opinion. Go to the shell and BP offices and sit outside the car park or chain yourself to their premises and impact their day to day running. Trouble is gawa, and you already I suspect know this, BP, Shell etc. can't stop doing what they do, protests directed at them won't effect them one bit. They just need to generate shareholder value. They've been cnuts for years and everyone already knows that. They've sponsored wars via Western government lobbying, they've hired local militias to fight guerilla wars in Nigeria and sub sarahan Africa. Theyve got succesive UK and US governments to supply arms to despicable regimes. They spend about $500million dollars a year supporting climate denial science. Sitting in their car park does fuck all. The only target that makes any sense is to gatecrash the news agenda. I think they could target better to gain more public support but attacking mega oil does fuck all.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 31, 2023 19:20:34 GMT
Guilty! 😜 On a serious note though there does need to be more done about all this. While it doesn't affect me day to day or bother me it doesn't mean it doesn't annoy others. Don't agree with violence but I don't think these protests help them with their message either as it rubs people up the wrong way. They should do more to target the big oil companies and disrupt them rather than working people in my opinion. Go to the shell and BP offices and sit outside the car park or chain yourself to their premises and impact their day to day running. Trouble is gawa, and you already I suspect know this, BP, Shell etc. can't stop doing what they do, protests directed at them won't effect them one bit. They just need to generate shareholder value. They've been cnuts for years and everyone already knows that. They've sponsored wars via Western government lobbying, they've hired local militias to fight guerilla wars in Nigeria and sub sarahan Africa. Theyve got succesive UK and US governments to supply arms to despicable regimes. They spend about $500million dollars a year supporting climate denial science. Sitting in their car park does fuck all. The only target that makes any sense is to gatecrash the news agenda. I think they could target better to gain more public support but attacking mega oil does fuck all. In that case, what’s the point? The point is getting their goggly eyed, purple haired, cardigan wearing jibs on the telly because they’ve got fuck all better to do. All this talk of “we won’t stop until the government do this, that and the other”. They must be high to believe what they’re doing currently has any impact whatsoever on anyone other than normal people trying to earn a living while they organise their next orange powder debacle
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Post by andystokey on May 31, 2023 19:33:15 GMT
Trouble is gawa, and you already I suspect know this, BP, Shell etc. can't stop doing what they do, protests directed at them won't effect them one bit. They just need to generate shareholder value. They've been cnuts for years and everyone already knows that. They've sponsored wars via Western government lobbying, they've hired local militias to fight guerilla wars in Nigeria and sub sarahan Africa. Theyve got succesive UK and US governments to supply arms to despicable regimes. They spend about $500million dollars a year supporting climate denial science. Sitting in their car park does fuck all. The only target that makes any sense is to gatecrash the news agenda. I think they could target better to gain more public support but attacking mega oil does fuck all. In that case, what’s the point? The point is getting their goggly eyed, purple haired, cardigan wearing jibs on the telly because they’ve got fuck all better to do. All this talk of “we won’t stop until the government do this, that and the other”. They must be high to believe what they’re doing currently has any impact whatsoever on anyone other than normal people trying to earn a living while they organise their next orange powder debacle I'm genuinely interested what would be a campaign that would hurt enough to kick people, government and corporations out of a slumber that would have wide-spread support? I suspect you are right no one will care until they are really looking over the precipice. By then it will be too late. I sat in a queue today stationary for 2.5h, no protesting just a normal traffic jam. I suspect all the things that get moaned about happened on a normal day, missed hospital appointments funersls etc. Even worse without exception no one turned off their engine around me. They just kept chuffing poison into the queue for over 2h so no one could open their window, they all kept their aircon running. I suspect regardless there will always be those who don't care but a lot do. Any ideas?
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Post by gawa on May 31, 2023 19:40:30 GMT
Guilty! 😜 On a serious note though there does need to be more done about all this. While it doesn't affect me day to day or bother me it doesn't mean it doesn't annoy others. Don't agree with violence but I don't think these protests help them with their message either as it rubs people up the wrong way. They should do more to target the big oil companies and disrupt them rather than working people in my opinion. Go to the shell and BP offices and sit outside the car park or chain yourself to their premises and impact their day to day running. Trouble is gawa, and you already I suspect know this, BP, Shell etc. can't stop doing what they do, protests directed at them won't effect them one bit. They just need to generate shareholder value. They've been cnuts for years and everyone already knows that. They've sponsored wars via Western government lobbying, they've hired local militias to fight guerilla wars in Nigeria and sub sarahan Africa. Theyve got succesive UK and US governments to supply arms to despicable regimes. They spend about $500million dollars a year supporting climate denial science. Sitting in their car park does fuck all. The only target that makes any sense is to gatecrash the news agenda. I think they could target better to gain more public support but attacking mega oil does fuck all. But what does gate crashing the news achieve? Publicity yes. But climate change is already pretty well documented now. And we also have to remember that alot of the publicity about these protests ends up being bad publicity. I doubt most of the people here moaning about them have ever encountered them in their day to day life. They know about it because the likes of the daily mail report on it and change the narrative to fit the image they wish to portray. I just think it's maybe beginning to run it's course and is becoming counter productive. The main people being inconvenienced by this are Joe public. It needs to be more targeted in my opinion: - Block of an entrance to a petrol station. - Block in oil tankers. - Do demonstrations like led by donkeys with huge screens hired out to educate. - Target private helicopter/aircraft fields - Do your road protests in affluent wealthy areas were oil execs may live and inconvenience them. - Target their digital online presence - Target marinas and block of yachts and boats from going in and out. - and probably many other things too
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