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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 30, 2022 14:35:03 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 30, 2022 14:37:56 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 30, 2022 14:40:07 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 30, 2022 14:41:52 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 30, 2022 14:43:24 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-live-watford-team-7649083How productive has training been over the last fortnight?Alex Neil: "I think it's been good but not as productive as it might seem from outside. You have five or six players away on international duty and a couple that are carrying bruises and bumps and need a bit of rest. You end up normally with a training group between 10 or 12. It's good in a way because you can get some work into them but doing 11 vs 11 stuff and getting real match play into them proves to be difficult. "In terms of having the whole group available arguably today is the first that's happen in the last week and a half. "But we've given them some good work. There are some lads who needed to be topped up, some who needed a bit of in-house match game time just to get some of the lads prepared for the games coming up. It was good but I'm always hungry for a bit more." 11 games before the World Cup and this week is intensive, do you look at the games in isolation or think you might use that player here or there?Neil: "I don't think we've currently got the luxury of doing that. I think when you've got a fully fit squad, which has been consecutively fit and you've managed to spread the minutes about across pre-season and everyone is at similar stages, you can start to do that and I've been able to do that with groups I've had in the past. "But at the moment we're literally going to the next game and who's available. How do we go about trying to win this game? That's the pattern we've had so far. We go to Hull for instance, win 3-0 and play really well and then lose the two wing-backs for the next game. We go back to the drawing board and try to find another solution. "As far as we're going just now it's a case of preparing for the next game and then we'll see who's available for Burnley after that."
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 30, 2022 14:49:12 GMT
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Post by scfcno1fan on Sept 30, 2022 14:54:56 GMT
Sounds like we’ve quite a few injuries.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 30, 2022 15:18:06 GMT
Surely Sterling must be fit now.
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Post by apb1 on Sept 30, 2022 15:19:24 GMT
Thompson out then. Could we not at least get a right and left back fit for goodness’s sake?
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 30, 2022 15:27:04 GMT
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Post by Gods on Sept 30, 2022 15:30:41 GMT
Injury situation an absolute nightmare. New manager has only a 25% win ratio from his first 4 games with a tough run coming up. Injuries or not, the last thing he needs is a Lambert or Jones style return after 10. Fingers crossed the wingbacks are back, which will make a huge, huge difference and that the Thompson injury doesn't keep him out. This is about where I'm at. Don't dwell too long on the league table either, we're only 2 points off the drop. Somehow over the course of the international break I'd convinced myself our start had not been as bad as it has!
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 30, 2022 15:33:45 GMT
To be fair, we're three points off 5th - and there are 5 points between 22nd and 5th, which is miles, miles tighter than it ever normally is.
Most of the league have had 'meh' starts that will become okay or problem situations over the next month.
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Post by walrus on Sept 30, 2022 15:43:27 GMT
To be fair, we're three points off 5th - and there are 5 points between 22nd and 5th, which is miles, miles tighter than it ever normally is. Most of the league have had 'meh' starts that will become okay or problem situations over the next month. Over the last three seasons the average final gap between playoffs and relegation has been 32 points. In 2019/20 it was just 22 points. So a five point gap a fifth of the way into the season is on the tight side but certainly not unheard of for what’s always a very competitive league.
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Post by jhtstokie on Sept 30, 2022 15:50:10 GMT
Injury situation an absolute nightmare. New manager has only a 25% win ratio from his first 4 games with a tough run coming up. Injuries or not, the last thing he needs is a Lambert or Jones style return after 10. Fingers crossed the wingbacks are back, which will make a huge, huge difference and that the Thompson injury doesn't keep him out. This is about where I'm at. Don't dwell too long on the league table either, we're only 2 points off the drop. Somehow over the course of the international break I'd convinced myself our start had not been as bad as it has! Luton are 3 points off the drop and they’re in 11th so half the table is a winning result away from the drop. 2 points from the drop zone but also 3 points off Sunderland in 5th so I wouldn’t say it’s been an awful start while it obviously hasn’t been a great one either
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 30, 2022 15:58:18 GMT
To be fair, we're three points off 5th - and there are 5 points between 22nd and 5th, which is miles, miles tighter than it ever normally is. Most of the league have had 'meh' starts that will become okay or problem situations over the next month. Over the last three seasons the average final gap between playoffs and relegation has been 32 points. In 2019/20 it was just 22 points. So a five point gap a fifth of the way into the season is on the tight side but certainly not unheard of for what’s always a very competitive league. I had a quick look on transfermarkt, where you can check it in a few minutes, what the specific gap was between 5th and 22nd at the 10-game mark, as it seemed ridiculously tight And over the last seasons, it's been 11, 10, 13, 11, 12, 9, 10, 11, 14, 10, 10, 10, 11, So 5 does seem unusually condensed.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 30, 2022 16:12:46 GMT
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Post by theonlooker on Sept 30, 2022 16:15:17 GMT
Injury situation an absolute nightmare. New manager has only a 25% win ratio from his first 4 games with a tough run coming up. Injuries or not, the last thing he needs is a Lambert or Jones style return after 10. Fingers crossed the wingbacks are back, which will make a huge, huge difference and that the Thompson injury doesn't keep him out. This is about where I'm at. Don't dwell too long on the league table either, we're only 2 points off the drop. Somehow over the course of the international break I'd convinced myself our start had not been as bad as it has! Not too bothered about the league table to be fair, its a crazy league. I'm more concerned about 3 wins from 10 which equates to just 14 wins over a season. Feel sorry for Neil. He's walked into a complete shit show injury wise.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Sept 30, 2022 16:43:39 GMT
This is about where I'm at. Don't dwell too long on the league table either, we're only 2 points off the drop. Somehow over the course of the international break I'd convinced myself our start had not been as bad as it has! Not too bothered about the league table to be fair, its a crazy league. I'm more concerned about 3 wins from 10 which equates to just 14 wins over a season. Feel sorry for Neil. He's walked into a complete shit show injury wise. Not in anyway attempting to colour MON’s reign. However it’s ironic to see posts appreciating AN’s problems due to injuries, the same wasn’t afforded to MON.
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Post by lordb on Sept 30, 2022 16:44:20 GMT
To be fair, we're three points off 5th - and there are 5 points between 22nd and 5th, which is miles, miles tighter than it ever normally is. Most of the league have had 'meh' starts that will become okay or problem situations over the next month. Over the last three seasons the average final gap between playoffs and relegation has been 32 points. In 2019/20 it was just 22 points. So a five point gap a fifth of the way into the season is on the tight side but certainly not unheard of for what’s always a very competitive league. I'm standing by my prediction of very low total required to make the play offs & a very high total to stay up difference could be well below 20 points between 4th bottom & 6th
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 30, 2022 16:46:01 GMT
He really does impress me. Might not happen immediately but I think he’ll take us up at some point.
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Post by theonlooker on Sept 30, 2022 18:08:35 GMT
Not too bothered about the league table to be fair, its a crazy league. I'm more concerned about 3 wins from 10 which equates to just 14 wins over a season. Feel sorry for Neil. He's walked into a complete shit show injury wise. Not in anyway attempting to colour MON’s reign. However it’s ironic to see posts appreciating AN’s problems due to injuries, the same wasn’t afforded to MON. Not really ironic given I afforded him the same luxury on a personal level?
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Post by xchpotter on Sept 30, 2022 18:39:31 GMT
Really warming to AN. Speaks a lot of common sense and has a mischievous sense of humour that can turn into a serious point to put others on the back foot in a flash. Reminds me a bit of Fergie. If he has a tenth of his success il’ll be happy.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Oct 1, 2022 7:29:25 GMT
Not in anyway attempting to colour MON’s reign. However it’s ironic to see posts appreciating AN’s problems due to injuries, the same wasn’t afforded to MON. Not really ironic given I afforded him the same luxury on a personal level? My post wasn’t aimed at yourself, I was using your post as a generalisation point about others who don’t seem to have a balanced opinion about the injuries faced by MON and which appear to be slightly worse (or with improvement for AN) and the negative impact upon team selection
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Post by jwhpotter on Oct 1, 2022 10:22:40 GMT
Injury news….
Thompson injured Sterling injured Brown injured Tymon injured
Powell fit Clarke fit
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 1, 2022 10:34:16 GMT
Injury news…. Thompson injured Sterling injured Brown injured Tymon injured Powell fit Clarke fit No real surprises then. Sterling’s proving to be a great deal. Wasn’t he supposed to be a week away a month ago? Good news re Powell and Clarke.
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Post by somersetstokie on Oct 1, 2022 11:29:20 GMT
Injury news…. Thompson injured Sterling injured Brown injured Tymon injured Powell fit Clarke fit No real surprises then. Sterling’s proving to be a great deal. Wasn’t he supposed to be a week away a month ago? Good news re Powell and Clarke. Pretty much standard status for Stoke. If recovering from injury and on their way back, the club statements will almost invariably have particular players as being "about two weeks away." Sterling will be ready for Christmas.
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Post by jwhpotter on Oct 1, 2022 12:55:52 GMT
Injury news…. Thompson injured Sterling injured Brown injured Tymon injured Powell fit Clarke fit Update - Tymon will have a fitness test and could make it
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 1, 2022 13:05:55 GMT
Let's hope Sterling's loan doesn't go the same way as Sima's.
Any word on Kilkenny?
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Post by theonlooker on Oct 1, 2022 15:44:23 GMT
"When's Sterling back?"
"Two weeks Turkish"
"You said one week five weeks ago...!"
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Post by gawa on Oct 1, 2022 15:47:40 GMT
We go to Hull for instance, win 3-0 and play really well and then lose the two wing-backs for the next game. We go back to the drawing board and try to find another solution. Wish he'd realise our top goalscorer of the last 18 months isn't a wing back.
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