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Post by andystokey on Sept 9, 2022 15:21:37 GMT
I notice the royal standard is at full mast on Buckingham Palace, as it should be when the reigning monarch is in residence. It replaced the half mast Union flag from yesterday on his arrival.
Does anyone remember the unjustified furore when the Queen was in residence and Diana had died that the Standard wasn't at half mast? They took some real stick for staying with protocol. Well the King is there and our Queen is dead and it flies majestically at full mast.
Clearly protocol has prevailed or reverted thankfully. Continuity and succession is what our monarchy is about. The Queen is dead long live the King
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Sept 9, 2022 15:37:54 GMT
I notice the royal standard is at full mast on Buckingham Palace, as it should be when the reigning monarch is in residence. It replaced the half mast Union flag from yesterday on his arrival. Does anyone remember the unjustified furore when the Queen was in residence and Diana had died that the Standard wasn't at half mast? They took some real stick for staying with protocol. Well the King is there and our Queen is dead and it flies majestically at full mast. Clearly protocol has prevailed or reverted thankfully. Continuity and succession is what our monarchy is about. The Queen is dead long live the King I wonder if any thought will be given to Diana tomorrow? What would her title be? I wonder what difference she would have made to Charles' reign? |
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Post by franklin on Sept 9, 2022 16:03:24 GMT
Welcome to the third Carolean Era of history.
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Post by Davef on Sept 9, 2022 16:10:12 GMT
I notice the royal standard is at full mast on Buckingham Palace, as it should be when the reigning monarch is in residence. It replaced the half mast Union flag from yesterday on his arrival. Does anyone remember the unjustified furore when the Queen was in residence and Diana had died that the Standard wasn't at half mast? They took some real stick for staying with protocol. Well the King is there and our Queen is dead and it flies majestically at full mast. Clearly protocol has prevailed or reverted thankfully. Continuity and succession is what our monarchy is about. The Queen is dead long live the King I wonder if any thought will be given to Diana tomorrow? What would her title be? I wonder what difference she would have made to Charles' reign? She would be the Queen. Wife of the King and Mother and Grandmother to two of his heirs. |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Sept 9, 2022 17:00:26 GMT
I wonder if any thought will be given to Diana tomorrow? What would her title be? I wonder what difference she would have made to Charles' reign? She would be the Queen. Wife of the King and Mother and Grandmother to two of his heirs. As far as I am aware Charles snd Diana were divorced at the time of her death. Had she survived they would both have been free to remarry. In that eventuality would there therefore be two queens, one of whom would potentially be married to someone without title? |
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Post by GrahamHyde on Sept 9, 2022 17:13:33 GMT
Great words from him just now.
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Post by yeokel on Sept 9, 2022 17:15:18 GMT
She would be the Queen. Wife of the King and Mother and Grandmother to two of his heirs. As far as I am aware Charles snd Diana were divorced at the time of her death. Had she survived they would both have been free to remarry. In that eventuality would there therefore be two queens, one of whom would potentially be married to someone without title? One of them would have been the Queen of Hearts. |
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Post by Davef on Sept 9, 2022 17:16:02 GMT
She would be the Queen. Wife of the King and Mother and Grandmother to two of his heirs. As far as I am aware Charles snd Diana were divorced at the time of her death. Had she survived they would both have been free to remarry. In that eventuality would there therefore be two queens, one of whom would potentially be married to someone without title? Sorry, I thought BJR meant to ask what her title would've been had they still been married. She was the Princess of Wales but Kate has that title now so I don't know what title Diana would've had, but she would still have been the mother of the heir to the throne so she would have been given some kind of title. |
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Post by yeokel on Sept 9, 2022 17:16:32 GMT
Great words from him just now. It was a bit too religious for my taste but full credit to him, he saw it through. I did think he might break down in tears at one point but he held it together. Well done Charlie. |
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Post by chuffedstokie on Sept 9, 2022 17:17:37 GMT
He's going to be alright.
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Post by richie22 on Sept 9, 2022 17:45:49 GMT
Not a royalist by any stretch but my god,to give that speech, the man has has bollox like a Bengali tiger, strip everything back to an absolute minimum , he lost his old dear….. god save the king….
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 9, 2022 17:48:26 GMT
Not a royalist by any stretch but my god,to give that speech, the man has has bollox like a Bengali tiger, strip everything back to an absolute minimum , he lost his old dear….. god save the king…. Absolutely, an incredibly emotional but stoic speech. Well in King Charles👏🏻 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2022 17:51:10 GMT
Fair play to him. That took some doing, the day after you've lost your beloved mother. His walkabout when he arrived back, he didn't need to do, but he took the time.
I think he knows he's got huge shoes to fill. I think he'll do a decent job.
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Sept 9, 2022 19:22:23 GMT
He'll do alright will King Charles.
Speaks a lot of sense on a lot of issues and despite whatever your views on the monarchy to be there greeting people and giving that speech is top class.
I like him but accept I might be in a minority.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 9, 2022 19:25:25 GMT
He'll do alright will King Charles. Speaks a lot of sense on a lot of issues and despite whatever your views on the monarchy to be there greeting people and giving that speech is top class. I like him but accept I might be in a minority. I’ve always liked him and I’m glad he’s taken the reigns and not passed them to William. William I’m sure will be great but this is Charles’ time and i think he’ll bring a bit more openness to the royal family. Long live the King. |
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Post by colderpotter on Sept 9, 2022 21:00:40 GMT
The French got rid of their monarchy centuries ago but, the last time I was in Paris, it seemed to be packed out with tourists. Strange eh? UK Top 20 most visited not exactly decked out with royaty.... Annual Visitors British Museum 5906716 Tate Modern 5656004 National Gallery 5229192 NHM (South Kensington) 4434520 V&A South Kensington 3789748 Science Museum 3251000 Southbank Centre l3232655 Somerset House 3223350 Tower of London 2l843031 Greenwich Museum 2607099 National Museum of Scotland 2165601 Edinburgh Castle 2063709 Chester Zoo 1866628 Kew Gardens 1802958 Tate Britain 1777877 National Portrait Gallery 1703411 Scottish National Gallery 1600761 Stonehenge 1582532 St Paul's Cathedral 1571197 Westminster Abbey 1547001 I'd say 21 million a year for the Tower of London is pretty decent! |
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Post by salopstick on Sept 9, 2022 23:39:23 GMT
I notice the royal standard is at full mast on Buckingham Palace, as it should be when the reigning monarch is in residence. It replaced the half mast Union flag from yesterday on his arrival. Does anyone remember the unjustified furore when the Queen was in residence and Diana had died that the Standard wasn't at half mast? They took some real stick for staying with protocol. Well the King is there and our Queen is dead and it flies majestically at full mast. Clearly protocol has prevailed or reverted thankfully. Continuity and succession is what our monarchy is about. The Queen is dead long live the King The royal standard never flies at half mast |
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Post by madnellie on Sept 10, 2022 0:29:34 GMT
Will all cash/stamps etc all change now then🤷🏼♂️ They changed to plastic notes a few years back here in Canada and they've said they won't be changing them as they are made to last for many years. I'm guessing it's a bit different back home though? |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Sept 10, 2022 5:20:11 GMT
He'll do alright will King Charles. Speaks a lot of sense on a lot of issues and despite whatever your views on the monarchy to be there greeting people and giving that speech is top class. I like him but accept I might be in a minority. You’re not mate. I think the majority still love the Royal family. |
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Post by yeokel on Sept 10, 2022 7:03:22 GMT
Will all cash/stamps etc all change now then🤷🏼♂️ They changed to plastic notes a few years back here in Canada and they've said they won't be changing them as they are made to last for many years. I'm guessing it's a bit different back home though? If “home” is GB, then I think we should adopt the same attitude and allow coins, notes and stamps to be replaced by natural wastage and not waste money with needless, pointless changes. |
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 10, 2022 7:34:15 GMT
They changed to plastic notes a few years back here in Canada and they've said they won't be changing them as they are made to last for many years. I'm guessing it's a bit different back home though? If “home” is GB, then I think we should adopt the same attitude and allow coins, notes and stamps to be replaced by natural wastage and not waste money with needless, pointless changes. When I was a boy in the 50s most coinage was previous monarchs, you even saw the occasional Victorian coin. The biggest expense was decimalisation . I expect the coinage will be gradually changed as old coinage is worn out and withdrawn. Bank notes only started to have the monarch on in 1960 so it is a relatively modern concept. They are replaced quite quickly although the idea of new plastic notes is to save expense due to them lasting longer, (2.5 times longer). Notes are replaced quite frequently in the past with the design changing and different people on the reverse. £5 has had Stephenson, Fry, and Churchill. Personally I think having a politician is a mistake, too divisive. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 10, 2022 7:41:48 GMT
I notice the royal standard is at full mast on Buckingham Palace, as it should be when the reigning monarch is in residence. It replaced the half mast Union flag from yesterday on his arrival. Does anyone remember the unjustified furore when the Queen was in residence and Diana had died that the Standard wasn't at half mast? They took some real stick for staying with protocol. Well the King is there and our Queen is dead and it flies majestically at full mast. Clearly protocol has prevailed or reverted thankfully. Continuity and succession is what our monarchy is about. The Queen is dead long live the King I wonder if any thought will be given to Diana tomorrow? What would her title be? I wonder what difference she would have made to Charles' reign? If Diana had still been married to Charles she would have been Queen consort now in place of Camilla. If she had not been married to Charles I don't think she would have been given a new title - although when William became King she MIGHT have become Queen Mother. |
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Post by ChesterStokie on Sept 10, 2022 7:52:56 GMT
I wonder if any thought will be given to Diana tomorrow? What would her title be? I wonder what difference she would have made to Charles' reign? If Diana had still been married to Charles she would have been Queen consort now in place of Camilla. If she had not been married to Charles I don't think she would have been given a new title - although when William became King she MIGHT have become Queen Mother. Queen Mother? King Mother surely! |
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Post by andystokey on Sept 10, 2022 8:07:47 GMT
I notice the royal standard is at full mast on Buckingham Palace, as it should be when the reigning monarch is in residence. It replaced the half mast Union flag from yesterday on his arrival. Does anyone remember the unjustified furore when the Queen was in residence and Diana had died that the Standard wasn't at half mast? They took some real stick for staying with protocol. Well the King is there and our Queen is dead and it flies majestically at full mast. Clearly protocol has prevailed or reverted thankfully. Continuity and succession is what our monarchy is about. The Queen is dead long live the King The royal standard never flies at half mast I know that I refer to the row when Diana died which forced a break in protocol by removing the standard. www.independent.co.uk/news/diana-19611997-protocol-a-flag-that-flew-in-the-face-of-the-rules-1237779.html |
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Post by Davef on Sept 10, 2022 8:11:30 GMT
If Diana had still been married to Charles she would have been Queen consort now in place of Camilla. If she had not been married to Charles I don't think she would have been given a new title - although when William became King she MIGHT have become Queen Mother. Queen Mother? King Mother surely! Both Edward VII and George V's wives were known as Queen Mother on the death of their husbands even though their sons became king. As Diana wasn't married to Charles then she almost certainly wouldn't have been given that title. |
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Post by a on Sept 10, 2022 8:35:46 GMT
Think the whole think is very much outdated, yes the direct very close family but, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, cousins is beyond a joke now, quick google search suggests: However, the Sovereign Grant is just one part of the total cost of the monarchy. The royal family's security bill is picked up by the metropolitan police, for example, while the costs of royal visits are borne by local councils. Meanwhile, income from the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall – despite belonging to the nation - goes directly to the Queen and Prince Charles respectively, depriving the treasury of tens of millions of pounds every year. When all this hidden expenditure is included, the real cost of the monarchy to British taxpayers is likely to be around £345m annually. £345m annually = £5 per head of the population per year = < 2p per day per person. If we got rid of the monarchy the loss of tourism, cost of whatever replaced the royal family (e.g. presidency), and continued costs for palaces etc., loss of employment, etc. would dwarf that cost. Where is that figure from? I believe it’s actually £102m www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-29/how-much-does-the-royal-family-cost-a-breakdown-of-the-key-figuresEither way, it’s typically classless of the left to take the low ground and use Her passing to bemoan the Monarchy. |
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Post by ChesterStokie on Sept 10, 2022 8:46:22 GMT
Queen Mother? King Mother surely! Both Edward VII and George V's wives were known as Queen Mother on the death of their husbands even though their sons became king. As Diana wasn't married to Charles then she almost certainly wouldn't have been given that title. Well I didn’t know that. Thanks. |
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Post by Davef on Sept 10, 2022 8:54:55 GMT
Both Edward VII and George V's wives were known as Queen Mother on the death of their husbands even though their sons became king. As Diana wasn't married to Charles then she almost certainly wouldn't have been given that title. Well I didn’t know that. Thanks. Neither did I until I checked it out on Wikipedia. 😊 |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 10, 2022 8:58:24 GMT
If Diana had still been married to Charles she would have been Queen consort now in place of Camilla. If she had not been married to Charles I don't think she would have been given a new title - although when William became King she MIGHT have become Queen Mother. Queen Mother? King Mother surely! You are right - old habits die hard! Each new year it takes me about 2 months to start putting the correct date by my signature so you can't expect me to immediately cope with a change of title which has had 70 years to be imprinted on my brain!  |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Sept 10, 2022 9:34:38 GMT
Cannot wait for William now; left-handers will have the King's writing 😁
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