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Post by raythesailor on Sept 8, 2022 21:19:32 GMT
I'm neither pro nor anti monarchy but this seems like the right time to knock it on the head, or at the very least massively reduce everything about it. The Queen was loved by pretty much everyone (except for the the more vile folk off the far-left), Charles just doesn't have that same sway though, infact I'd say more people (Even among pro-monarchy-types) don't like him (And he's far too political to hold such a role with all his eco-nut views & links to the WEF & their 'Build Back Better' Great Reset agenda). Get rid of all the hangers on, give Charles a very basic role, and get them paying their own way.... Change the anthem aswell, I was never against God Save The Queen, singing God Save The King for Charlie boy though doesn't feel right, and I can't imagine there'd be many people in support of it. I feel that this may be a debate to come, but this evening or even the next few weeks is not the time to discuss it. The next generations of Royals do need to face up to the damage that has been done to their family by the queens immediate descendants, and how to deal with it. But maybe not now. |
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Post by chuffedstokie on Sept 8, 2022 21:38:37 GMT
Will all cash/stamps etc all change now then🤷🏼♂️ Don't forget the post boxes. |
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Post by Boothen on Sept 8, 2022 21:45:56 GMT
Will all cash/stamps etc all change now then🤷🏼♂️ Don't forget the post boxes. Pretty sure I read somewhere a while back that post boxes will retain the ER royal cypher and the CR cypher will only be used on new post boxes when older ones are replaced. |
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Post by Davef on Sept 8, 2022 21:56:38 GMT
Don't forget the post boxes. Pretty sure I read somewhere a while back that post boxes will retain the ER royal cypher and the CR cypher will only be used on new post boxes when older ones are replaced. It'll probably need to be WR when they get round to that job! |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 8, 2022 22:05:04 GMT
Pretty sure I read somewhere a while back that post boxes will retain the ER royal cypher and the CR cypher will only be used on new post boxes when older ones are replaced. It'll probably need to be WR when they get round to that job! Rooney?🤣 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2022 22:36:22 GMT
Will Hayley McQueen have to change her name?
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Post by slash on Sept 9, 2022 1:01:57 GMT
Don't forget the post boxes. Pretty sure I read somewhere a while back that post boxes will retain the ER royal cypher and the CR cypher will only be used on new post boxes when older ones are replaced. there are still some that say VR and GVIR around the country. |
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 9, 2022 6:26:02 GMT
Good job there haven’t been 6 previous Charlies on the throne, because Ronaldo has trademark protection on CR7.
As it is CR3 might be a little too close for comfort.
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Post by thewonderstuff on Sept 9, 2022 7:45:23 GMT
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 9, 2022 8:04:53 GMT
Might seem a silly question but would the armed forces ,police , MPs ,scouts etc all have to renew there vows
Or don’t they no longer bother with it
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Post by shakermaker on Sept 9, 2022 8:23:16 GMT
The Queen was loved by pretty much everyone (except for the the more vile folk off the far-left), Charles just doesn't have that same sway though, infact I'd say more people (Even among pro-monarchy-types) don't like him If we were able to vote on our next monarch, I think the overwhelming majority would want William to be king instead of Charlie. He conducts himself with more charm and integrity than ‘ol jug ears has. That of course is not how it works, which is a shame as Wills would inject renewed enthusiasm and pride into the monarchy. |
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Post by questionable on Sept 9, 2022 8:32:35 GMT
Think the whole think is very much outdated, yes the direct very close family but, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, cousins is beyond a joke now, quick google search suggests:
However, the Sovereign Grant is just one part of the total cost of the monarchy. The royal family's security bill is picked up by the metropolitan police, for example, while the costs of royal visits are borne by local councils.
Meanwhile, income from the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall – despite belonging to the nation - goes directly to the Queen and Prince Charles respectively, depriving the treasury of tens of millions of pounds every year.
When all this hidden expenditure is included, the real cost of the monarchy to British taxpayers is likely to be around £345m annually.
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Post by flea79 on Sept 9, 2022 8:59:19 GMT
just a thought but has anybody asked Meghan Markle if she is ok?
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 9, 2022 9:00:16 GMT
Think the whole think is very much outdated, yes the direct very close family but, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, cousins is beyond a joke now, quick google search suggests: However, the Sovereign Grant is just one part of the total cost of the monarchy. The royal family's security bill is picked up by the metropolitan police, for example, while the costs of royal visits are borne by local councils. Meanwhile, income from the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall – despite belonging to the nation - goes directly to the Queen and Prince Charles respectively, depriving the treasury of tens of millions of pounds every year. When all this hidden expenditure is included, the real cost of the monarchy to British taxpayers is likely to be around £345m annually. £345m annually = £5 per head of the population per year = < 2p per day per person. If we got rid of the monarchy the loss of tourism, cost of whatever replaced the royal family (e.g. presidency), and continued costs for palaces etc., loss of employment, etc. would dwarf that cost. |
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Post by eddyclamp on Sept 9, 2022 9:08:28 GMT
Pretty sure I read somewhere a while back that post boxes will retain the ER royal cypher and the CR cypher will only be used on new post boxes when older ones are replaced. It'll probably need to be WR when they get round to that job! post boxes will probably be a thing of the past then. |
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Post by questionable on Sept 9, 2022 9:15:08 GMT
Will all cash/stamps etc all change now then🤷🏼♂️ Don't forget the post boxes. There are 4.5bn sterling bank notes in circulation with the Queen’s face on them, worth a combined £80bn. Replacing them with alternatives featuring the head of the new monarch is likely to take at least two years. When the latest synthetic £50 notes were issued, the process of recall and replacement took the Bank of England 16 months. When the Queen acceded to the throne in 1952, the monarch was not featured on the banknotes. That changed in 1960 when the face of Elizabeth II began to appear on £1 notes in an image created by the banknote designer Robert Austin, which some criticised as too severe. An image of the new monarch would be agreed with Buckingham Palace. The Queen’s head also features on some $20 banknotes in Canada, on coins in New Zealand, and on all coins and notes issued by the Eastern Caribbean central bank, as well as other parts of the Commonwealth. |
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Post by franklin on Sept 9, 2022 9:20:16 GMT
Might seem a silly question but would the armed forces ,police , MPs ,scouts etc all have to renew there vows Or don’t they no longer bother with it No it includes the heir |
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Post by questionable on Sept 9, 2022 9:36:47 GMT
Might seem a silly question but would the armed forces ,police , MPs ,scouts etc all have to renew there vows Or don’t they no longer bother with it The Oath of Allegiance (Judicial or Official Oath) is a promise to be loyal to the British monarch, and his or her heirs and successors, sworn by certain public servants in the United Kingdom. The current standard wording of the oath of allegiance is set out in the Promissory Oaths Act 1868 |
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Post by yeokel on Sept 9, 2022 10:11:24 GMT
Think the whole think is very much outdated, yes the direct very close family but, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, cousins is beyond a joke now, quick google search suggests: However, the Sovereign Grant is just one part of the total cost of the monarchy. The royal family's security bill is picked up by the metropolitan police, for example, while the costs of royal visits are borne by local councils. Meanwhile, income from the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall – despite belonging to the nation - goes directly to the Queen and Prince Charles respectively, depriving the treasury of tens of millions of pounds every year. When all this hidden expenditure is included, the real cost of the monarchy to British taxpayers is likely to be around £345m annually. £345m annually = £5 per head of the population per year = < 2p per day per person. If we got rid of the monarchy the loss of tourism, cost of whatever replaced the royal family (e.g. presidency), and continued costs for palaces etc., loss of employment, etc. would dwarf that cost. The French got rid of their monarchy centuries ago but, the last time I was in Paris, it seemed to be packed out with tourists. Strange eh? |
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Post by yeokel on Sept 9, 2022 10:18:18 GMT
Don't forget the post boxes. There are 4.5bn sterling bank notes in circulation with the Queen’s face on them, worth a combined £80bn. Replacing them with alternatives featuring the head of the new monarch is likely to take at least two years. When the latest synthetic £50 notes were issued, the process of recall and replacement took the Bank of England 16 months. When the Queen acceded to the throne in 1952, the monarch was not featured on the banknotes. That changed in 1960 when the face of Elizabeth II began to appear on £1 notes in an image created by the banknote designer Robert Austin, which some criticised as too severe. An image of the new monarch would be agreed with Buckingham Palace. The Queen’s head also features on some $20 banknotes in Canada, on coins in New Zealand, and on all coins and notes issued by the Eastern Caribbean central bank, as well as other parts of the Commonwealth. Before we went decimal I remember seeing loads of coins with various monarchs heads on them. There didn't seem to be any particular hurry to recall them then, and I don't see why there should be now. The renewal and replacement should just be allowed to take its own course over time just as they replace or change the design of existing coins and notes these days. There's no hurry and it's certainly not worth spending any money on. |
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Post by thewonderstuff on Sept 9, 2022 11:46:40 GMT
just a thought but has anybody asked Meghan Markle if she is ok? I think this was the prevailing view in The Mail crowd with Markle yesterday |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Sept 9, 2022 12:08:31 GMT
£345m annually = £5 per head of the population per year = < 2p per day per person. If we got rid of the monarchy the loss of tourism, cost of whatever replaced the royal family (e.g. presidency), and continued costs for palaces etc., loss of employment, etc. would dwarf that cost. The French got rid of their monarchy centuries ago but, the last time I was in Paris, it seemed to be packed out with tourists. Strange eh? UK Top 20 most visited not exactly decked out with royaty.... Annual Visitors British Museum 5906716 Tate Modern 5656004 National Gallery 5229192 NHM (South Kensington) 4434520 V&A South Kensington 3789748 Science Museum 3251000 Southbank Centre l3232655 Somerset House 3223350 Tower of London 2l843031 Greenwich Museum 2607099 National Museum of Scotland 2165601 Edinburgh Castle 2063709 Chester Zoo 1866628 Kew Gardens 1802958 Tate Britain 1777877 National Portrait Gallery 1703411 Scottish National Gallery 1600761 Stonehenge 1582532 St Paul's Cathedral 1571197 Westminster Abbey 1547001 |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Sept 9, 2022 12:29:25 GMT
Just seen a piece in the news. Though it won’t be the same the monarchy’s in safe hands with Charles then William.
Some good work with the Prince’s trust and on the environment.
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Post by questionable on Sept 9, 2022 12:34:05 GMT
The French got rid of their monarchy centuries ago but, the last time I was in Paris, it seemed to be packed out with tourists. Strange eh? UK Top 20 most visited not exactly decked out with royaty.... Annual Visitors British Museum 5906716 Tate Modern 5656004 National Gallery 5229192 NHM (South Kensington) 4434520 V&A South Kensington 3789748 Science Museum 3251000 Southbank Centre l3232655 Somerset House 3223350 Tower of London 2l843031 Greenwich Museum 2607099 National Museum of Scotland 2165601 Edinburgh Castle 2063709 Chester Zoo 1866628 Kew Gardens 1802958 Tate Britain 1777877 National Portrait Gallery 1703411 Scottish National Gallery 1600761 Stonehenge 1582532 St Paul's Cathedral 1571197 Westminster Abbey 1547001 I’ve been to London on numerous occasions and at no point have I ever thought about visiting a Royal building of any description. |
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Post by rivival on Sept 9, 2022 13:05:13 GMT
When I think of how many Figurines, Vases, Plates, Cups, Thimbles etc I've made I just hope I haven't got to come out of retirement to change them all to Charlie =)
No doubt there will be a market for commemorative ware for the Queen and Charles coronation.
I remember one figure of her being made on Wedgewood's where here waist was so slight it was suggested that the designer was after a knighthood.
The Royal patronage has been massive for the pottery industry over the years though Royal Doulton, Royal Worcester etc. Didn't our children all receive a commemorative piece for Charles and Dianna's wedding. Or is my memory playing tricks again. Anyway a memory of the Queen would be nice for them to have.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2022 13:06:58 GMT
UK Top 20 most visited not exactly decked out with royaty.... Annual Visitors British Museum 5906716 Tate Modern 5656004 National Gallery 5229192 NHM (South Kensington) 4434520 V&A South Kensington 3789748 Science Museum 3251000 Southbank Centre l3232655 Somerset House 3223350 Tower of London 2l843031 Greenwich Museum 2607099 National Museum of Scotland 2165601 Edinburgh Castle 2063709 Chester Zoo 1866628 Kew Gardens 1802958 Tate Britain 1777877 National Portrait Gallery 1703411 Scottish National Gallery 1600761 Stonehenge 1582532 St Paul's Cathedral 1571197 Westminster Abbey 1547001 I’ve been to London on numerous occasions and at no point have I ever thought about visiting a Royal building of any description. I went to Princess Fifis on Wardour St on a school trip until we saw the prices. |
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Post by Davef on Sept 9, 2022 13:19:55 GMT
To be fair, he's made a good start by meeting people who were awaiting his arrival at Buckingham Palace.
The Security lads don't seem to impressed though!
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Post by salopstick on Sept 9, 2022 13:22:25 GMT
To be fair, he's made a good start by meeting people who were awaiting his arrival at Buckingham Palace. The Security lads don't seem to impressed though! It’s brilliant mate. An elected head of state without real power like France would cost just as much and do half the amount of good work these people do |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Sept 9, 2022 13:32:34 GMT
Magnificent from Charles very classy. What i don’t get is why everyone has to wave there phones in his face. It just doesn’t sit well for me after him losing his mum.
Modern society i guess.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Sept 9, 2022 15:13:18 GMT
Magnificent from Charles very classy. What i don’t get is why everyone has to wave there phones in his face. It just doesn’t sit well for me after him losing his mum. Modern society i guess. Why aren't they at work? |
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