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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 7, 2022 22:23:55 GMT
Thought Delap looked good against Brum tbf. Looked much more of a threat when him and Fosu came on against Brum. Although Brown drastically negated any threat they posed by just standing offside.
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Tezgel
Nov 8, 2022 1:43:17 GMT
Post by sifta on Nov 8, 2022 1:43:17 GMT
“Sneering at people”….he was saying it as it was and remains to this day. It’s about winning, in style if you can, if not win and that equals success Your’e 2nd point……not a clue what you’re talking about. I can remember gates of 8000 or less, that’s 60 years ago. How many attendances were less than 20K even during our darkest days in the EPL? Noted that you didn’t comment upon our EPL years and our opportunity to watch close up World Class Footballers, strange I suppose it doesn’t meet your expectations of entertainment. Think win = success You are wasting your time mate. You are trying to have a discussion with someone who will argue black is white and then white is black. He is "conveniently overlooking" that Durban's comments were most certainly not aimed at the Stoke fans. He had just taken Stoke to Arsenal and put on a defensive masterclass to win 1-0. He was responding to a sneering comment from a London based journalist on the lines of "how dare little old Stoke stifle and beat the wonderfully entertaining Arsenal on their own ground rather than playing attractive football but eventually rolling over and losing". The point Durban was making was that as the away manager he wasn't responsible for "entertaining" the home fans. As a Stoke fan I was delighted with the win!
Err, not quite, we had actually lost 2 - 0. Though it was an improvement on previous results, and tbh the style of play was the best chance of the travelling support getting to see a favourable result.
Durban's point was that it was not up to the smaller teams to just turn up as willing cannon fodder
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Tezgel
Nov 8, 2022 3:52:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2022 3:52:43 GMT
You are wasting your time mate. You are trying to have a discussion with someone who will argue black is white and then white is black. He is "conveniently overlooking" that Durban's comments were most certainly not aimed at the Stoke fans. He had just taken Stoke to Arsenal and put on a defensive masterclass to win 1-0. He was responding to a sneering comment from a London based journalist on the lines of "how dare little old Stoke stifle and beat the wonderfully entertaining Arsenal on their own ground rather than playing attractive football but eventually rolling over and losing". The point Durban was making was that as the away manager he wasn't responsible for "entertaining" the home fans. As a Stoke fan I was delighted with the win!
Err, not quite, we had actually lost 2 - 0. Though it was an improvement on previous results, and tbh the style of play was the best chance of the travelling support getting to see a favourable result.
Durban's point was that it was not up to the smaller teams to just turn up as willing cannon fodder
I personally thought it was after a 0-0 and was a MOTD game. I remember Clough criticising MOTD for interviewing a manager who had come for a 0-0 but you could be right. The 1-0 at Arse was the opening day of the season but not on MOTD. Was on the ferry coming from Ireland as a kid and didn't find out the score until MOTD that night when they did the round up. Got a feeling Notts County won at Villa that day as were the 2 shock scores.
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Tezgel
Nov 8, 2022 8:32:13 GMT
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Post by scfcno1fan on Nov 8, 2022 8:32:13 GMT
Delap looked more of a threat against Brum.
Just needs to learn how to kick the ball.
Half a dozen times I’ve seen him trip over it or miskick it.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 8, 2022 8:52:06 GMT
Delap looked more of a threat against Brum. Just needs to learn how to kick the ball. Half a dozen times I’ve seen him trip over it or miskick it. That's been my biggest disappointment - and I'm hoping it's because he's been trying a bit too hard - but when he has been able to get a shot off they've been scuffed efforts that have barely troubled the keeper........
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Post by werrington on Nov 8, 2022 8:57:08 GMT
Delap looked more of a threat against Brum. Just needs to learn how to kick the ball. Half a dozen times I’ve seen him trip over it or miskick it. That's been my biggest disappointment - and I'm hoping it's because he's been trying a bit too hard - but when he has been able to get a shot off they've been scuffed efforts that have barely troubled the keeper........ That one on Saturday at 1-2 when he cut in from the right onto his left foot was everything about him currently He’ll get there I’m sure
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 8, 2022 9:08:19 GMT
That's been my biggest disappointment - and I'm hoping it's because he's been trying a bit too hard - but when he has been able to get a shot off they've been scuffed efforts that have barely troubled the keeper........ That one on Saturday at 1-2 when he cut in from the right onto his left foot was everything about him currently He’ll get there I’m sure Yeah from May onwards probably I do think we need to stick with him, if he could bottle that Hull away performance he'd be a real asset for the rest of the season........
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Tezgel
Nov 8, 2022 10:30:11 GMT
Post by nottsover60 on Nov 8, 2022 10:30:11 GMT
No no no.... Have you not been watching Delap to see how unready for big boy football he is..tezgel is half his size, younger in age and is nowhere near ready. Thought Delap looked good against Brum tbf. He did but the point here is whether Tezgel is ready for the Championship and it has taken getting on for three months for Delap to look good when he comes on. He is three years older than Tezgel and at an equivalent age Delap was ripping up the u23s for fun and I'm pretty sure played for Man City's first team at 17. The problem for precocious forwards is that the youth leagues are full of naive defenders who a strong centre forward can dominate. Think back to Souttar who looked awful until he went on loan to Tranmere and as he said at the time learned the dark arts from Clint Hill. Delap's problem is coming up every week against defenders who know those dark arts of fouling and holding in a way that referees can't see and who can match Delap for strength.
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Tezgel
Nov 8, 2022 10:46:31 GMT
Post by mrcoke on Nov 8, 2022 10:46:31 GMT
Thought Delap looked good against Brum tbf. He did but the point here is whether Tezgel is ready for the Championship and it has taken getting on for three months for Delap to look good when he comes on. He is three years older than Tezgel and at an equivalent age Delap was ripping up the u23s for fun and I'm pretty sure played for Man City's first team at 17. The problem for precocious forwards is that the youth leagues are full of naive defenders who a strong centre forward can dominate. Think back to Souttar who looked awful until he went on loan to Tranmere and as he said at the time learned the dark arts from Clint Hill. Delap's problem is coming up every week against defenders who know those dark arts of fouling and holding in a way that referees can't see and who can match Delap for strength. Good post. I'm prompted to post again, that in his first autobiography Crouch said that, as he rose up the each level of standard of play, it took him a season to master each level before moving to the next level eventually getting to international level. We are seeing Tymon and Brown getting better each season (unfortunately set back by injuries this season), and we have seen in the past that Walters did not get to his best till second half of his 20s and then was repeatedly our second highest scorer each season at Prem level.
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Tezgel
Nov 8, 2022 12:07:04 GMT
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Post by lordb on Nov 8, 2022 12:07:04 GMT
Thought Delap looked good against Brum tbf. He did but the point here is whether Tezgel is ready for the Championship and it has taken getting on for three months for Delap to look good when he comes on. He is three years older than Tezgel and at an equivalent age Delap was ripping up the u23s for fun and I'm pretty sure played for Man City's first team at 17. The problem for precocious forwards is that the youth leagues are full of naive defenders who a strong centre forward can dominate. Think back to Souttar who looked awful until he went on loan to Tranmere and as he said at the time learned the dark arts from Clint Hill. Delap's problem is coming up every week against defenders who know those dark arts of fouling and holding in a way that referees can't see and who can match Delap for strength. Not disagreeing but Tezgel game is different to Delaps Tezgel movement off the ball is outstanding, he's clever in the area and a cool finisher
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Tezgel
Nov 8, 2022 12:13:49 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 8, 2022 12:13:49 GMT
Thought Delap looked good against Brum tbf. He did but the point here is whether Tezgel is ready for the Championship and it has taken getting on for three months for Delap to look good when he comes on. He is three years older than Tezgel and at an equivalent age Delap was ripping up the u23s for fun and I'm pretty sure played for Man City's first team at 17. The problem for precocious forwards is that the youth leagues are full of naive defenders who a strong centre forward can dominate. Think back to Souttar who looked awful until he went on loan to Tranmere and as he said at the time learned the dark arts from Clint Hill. Delap's problem is coming up every week against defenders who know those dark arts of fouling and holding in a way that referees can't see and who can match Delap for strength. I haven't mentioned Tezgel.
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Tezgel
Nov 8, 2022 12:43:00 GMT
Post by nottsover60 on Nov 8, 2022 12:43:00 GMT
He did but the point here is whether Tezgel is ready for the Championship and it has taken getting on for three months for Delap to look good when he comes on. He is three years older than Tezgel and at an equivalent age Delap was ripping up the u23s for fun and I'm pretty sure played for Man City's first team at 17. The problem for precocious forwards is that the youth leagues are full of naive defenders who a strong centre forward can dominate. Think back to Souttar who looked awful until he went on loan to Tranmere and as he said at the time learned the dark arts from Clint Hill. Delap's problem is coming up every week against defenders who know those dark arts of fouling and holding in a way that referees can't see and who can match Delap for strength. I haven't mentioned Tezgel. No but the thread is about Tezgel and the suggestion that he should be in the first team. Delap was only mentioned as a yardstick for whether Tezgel was ready.
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Tezgel
Nov 8, 2022 12:50:03 GMT
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Post by banksy1art on Nov 8, 2022 12:50:03 GMT
I think he’ll play in the cup games first, and if he impresses we might see more of him in the later stages of the season.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Nov 8, 2022 12:52:33 GMT
Ideally he would need to come on when we are 3 or 4 up with 10/15 mins.remaining,but that ain't going to happen is it?
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Tezgel
Nov 19, 2022 13:59:51 GMT
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Post by banksy1art on Nov 19, 2022 13:59:51 GMT
Scored again for the u21s. He’s 17.
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Post by banksy1art on Nov 19, 2022 14:00:27 GMT
The fact he’s the same player after his injury is encouraging
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 16, 2022 13:43:44 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/emre-tezgel-stoke-city-striker-7938839Stoke City manager Alex Neil says he has been hugely impressed by striker Emre Tezgel and has confirmed the teenager will travel with the squad for this weekend's game at Bristol City. “I love him as a player, he is very good. At just turned 17, he is as good at taking the ball in as any young striker I have seen at his age" "He was on the bench in the last game, he trains with us every single day and he shows his qualities every day. So, I think he has got an extremely bright future ahead of him.”
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Tezgel
Dec 16, 2022 13:46:36 GMT
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Post by lordb on Dec 16, 2022 13:46:36 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/emre-tezgel-stoke-city-striker-7938839Stoke City manager Alex Neil says he has been hugely impressed by striker Emre Tezgel and has confirmed the teenager will travel with the squad for this weekend's game at Bristol City. “I love him as a player, he is very good. At just turned 17, he is as good at taking the ball in as any young striker I have seen at his age" "He was on the bench in the last game, he trains with us every single day and he shows his qualities every day. So, I think he has got an extremely bright future ahead of him.” Good words
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Post by jhtstokie on Dec 16, 2022 13:53:23 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/emre-tezgel-stoke-city-striker-7938839Stoke City manager Alex Neil says he has been hugely impressed by striker Emre Tezgel and has confirmed the teenager will travel with the squad for this weekend's game at Bristol City. “I love him as a player, he is very good. At just turned 17, he is as good at taking the ball in as any young striker I have seen at his age" "He was on the bench in the last game, he trains with us every single day and he shows his qualities every day. So, I think he has got an extremely bright future ahead of him.” Hopefully he actually gets some service and we create some chances for him but we can dream😂
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 16, 2022 14:09:05 GMT
Being able to control the ball, gives him a distinct advantage over the majority of our other forwards.
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Tezgel
Dec 17, 2022 6:50:14 GMT
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Post by biddulphchav on Dec 17, 2022 6:50:14 GMT
Needs to be introduced late in games this season, 5-10, maybe 15 minutes here and there. Shouldn’t start games until he’s had a good feel for this level and has time to adjust
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Dec 17, 2022 6:59:09 GMT
Needs to be introduced late in games this season, 5-10, maybe 15 minutes here and there. Shouldn’t start games until he’s had a good feel for this level and has time to adjust If he's ready, he's ready. Stick him in now and let's see what he can do.
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Tezgel
Dec 17, 2022 8:35:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2022 8:35:24 GMT
Needs to be introduced late in games this season, 5-10, maybe 15 minutes here and there. Shouldn’t start games until he’s had a good feel for this level and has time to adjust If he's ready, he's ready. Stick him in now and let's see what he can do. Michael O'Neill would have probably had him in the team more regularly by now. He chucked Tyrese Campbell into a relegation battle so no reason why Neil can't do the same with Tezgel.
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Post by Mars on Dec 17, 2022 9:02:45 GMT
In the absence of any of the other strikers even threatening a goalscoring run, if the manager genuinely believes in what he is saying then he needs to give him some proper game time.
The prospect if some genuine young talent such as Emre or Lowe is just about the only thing that could get me interested in this team right now.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 17, 2022 10:27:58 GMT
I think it’s a big compliment if he’s with the squad and not in the FA Youth Cup side. I’d expect him to play in that still as it’s a very prestigious competition.
But as well as a compliment to him it’s a sign of our strength that we can still have Lowe leading the line for the 18s.
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Tezgel
Dec 17, 2022 12:19:38 GMT
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Post by biddulphchav on Dec 17, 2022 12:19:38 GMT
Needs to be introduced late in games this season, 5-10, maybe 15 minutes here and there. Shouldn’t start games until he’s had a good feel for this level and has time to adjust If he's ready, he's ready. Stick him in now and let's see what he can do. I don’t think he is ready. I think gradually introducing him this season gives him a chance to be ready next season. The pressure of being a starting striker at 17 might not be good for him. I don’t know the kid, maybe he’ll be fine with it though
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Tezgel
Dec 18, 2022 14:00:34 GMT
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Post by banksy1art on Dec 18, 2022 14:00:34 GMT
Just scored again! Currently 2-2 against Arsenal
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Tezgel
Dec 18, 2022 14:05:09 GMT
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 18, 2022 14:05:09 GMT
Needs to be introduced late in games this season, 5-10, maybe 15 minutes here and there. Shouldn’t start games until he’s had a good feel for this level and has time to adjust If he's ready, he's ready. Stick him in now and let's see what he can do. From what I've seen he isn't but that's only watching him last season with the youngsters, if he's improved quite a bit since then he could be worth 10 mins or so to find out.
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Tezgel
Dec 19, 2022 10:11:40 GMT
Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 19, 2022 10:11:40 GMT
If he's ready, he's ready. Stick him in now and let's see what he can do. From what I've seen he isn't but that's only watching him last season with the youngsters, if he's improved quite a bit since then he could be worth 10 mins or so to find out. You'd imagine he'll stay in and around the first team to give him the experience of training with the big boys and be given a start against Hartlepool in the cup. Depending on how he does in that will influence what his next step is. Probably a loan out somewhere. As we've seen with Delap it's a massive step up to the Championship even from the very best of u21's.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 19, 2022 10:27:19 GMT
He's got to start at Hartlepool, be great to see him get at least an hour.........
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