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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2022 16:55:01 GMT
Extremely debatable. Hes a brilliany shithouse of a player who knows how to win free kicks and wind up the oppositon. There's a difference between that, and somebody who works hard for the team though. You can’t be watching the games if you don’t think Powell works hard and puts himself about He doesn't work hard. He never breaks sweat.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2022 16:55:15 GMT
Bottom line is he's hit over double figures when he has played and a huge loss.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jul 4, 2022 16:56:51 GMT
He's always injured, barely get half a season out of him. Apart from those 2 seasons out of 3 when we did, you mean? Plus the couple of seasons before at Wigan.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 4, 2022 16:57:17 GMT
You can’t be watching the games if you don’t think Powell works hard and puts himself about He doesn't work hard. He never breaks sweat. Sorry that's bollocks, he works hard for the team. Prince Andrew didn't break sweat either..............
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Post by wakeypotter on Jul 4, 2022 17:09:12 GMT
This is why we need back up for Powell. I don't know about back up. Think we need more of a permanent replacement. Can't keep getting about 5 games a season out of him. He only has to look at a football pitch Couldn’t agree more. I’ve said this before and got slated
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 4, 2022 17:10:59 GMT
When he plays he battles with the best of them. Extremely debatable. Hes a brilliany shithouse of a player who knows how to win free kicks and wind up the oppositon. There's a difference between that, and somebody who works hard for the team though. If anything he’s guilty of dropping deep to get involved in the muck and bullets too much rather than focusing on the final third.
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Post by LphPotter on Jul 4, 2022 17:11:56 GMT
I don't know about back up. Think we need more of a permanent replacement. Can't keep getting about 5 games a season out of him. He only has to look at a football pitch Couldn’t agree more. I’ve said this before and got slated Because before last season where he literally broke his leg it isn’t true from his time here, of course IF he is injured and out for a long period of time then it is concerning and we probably do need to look for a replacement.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 4, 2022 17:13:03 GMT
What, by being extremely good when he plays and injured sometimes, which is beyond his control? Giannelli Imbula was a disastrous signing. A free transfer who becomes your talisman and most potent creative threat, but isn’t available as much as you’d like, really isn’t. Be great all he wants. If he never plays whats the point? How many times have we had a fully fit and firing Nick Powell? We need treat Powell as a bonus/luxury player. You can never plan a team or season around a nick powell. 19/20 he was fit for a good chunk but Jones wouldn’t play him. Played most games from New Year onwards under O’Neill and was a key player. 20/21 he missed 7 games. Was one of the best players in the league. 21/22 he missed a lot of games but most of that was due to a broken leg. Could happen to anybody. As could doing your ACL.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 4, 2022 17:13:52 GMT
I don't know about back up. Think we need more of a permanent replacement. Can't keep getting about 5 games a season out of him. He only has to look at a football pitch Couldn’t agree more. I’ve said this before and got slated You got slated for not rating him, not for saying he was injury prone.
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Post by stokemark on Jul 4, 2022 17:17:22 GMT
Massive blow if true
You can debate his injury record as much as you like but he is one of the very few players of quality that we have.
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Post by scfc75 on Jul 4, 2022 17:30:44 GMT
“Powell is injury prone” is almost as good as the “Bonham was Gillingham’s third choice keeper” myth.
He made the matchday squad in over 80% of all games in his first 2 seasons with us, missing games in that first season largely because Nathan Jones was a tit. Then last season he broke his leg.
I’m actually surprised he’s not injured more, the amount he gets battered.
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Post by nottsover60 on Jul 4, 2022 17:48:19 GMT
I don't think he gets injured much more than average but he seems to have a long recovery time. Yes he broke his leg last season but a hairline fracture, not a complete break. Whelan took about three weeks to come back from similar, average is about 6 weeks, Powell was about 3 months. The trouble is he is our best creative player and a goal scorer but we have to have cover because of that. I think Sawyers is as good as we are likely to get.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jul 4, 2022 17:49:24 GMT
You can’t be watching the games if you don’t think Powell works hard and puts himself about He doesn't work hard. He never breaks sweat. Absolute horse meat. He works unbelievably hard. As the previous poster said, you can't be watching the games if that's your honest opinion, although I suspect it isn't.
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Post by PONTAFCE on Jul 4, 2022 17:49:51 GMT
Looking at the latest video of the lads in Cork no sign of Powell.
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Post by wakeypotter on Jul 4, 2022 17:58:22 GMT
Couldn’t agree more. I’ve said this before and got slated You got slated for not rating him, not for saying he was injury prone. No I got slated for saying he was always injured then people like you came out with stats to his appearances. The top and bottom of it is he is a injury prone player who I think is overrated. He’s decent end of
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 4, 2022 18:00:11 GMT
You got slated for not rating him, not for saying he was injury prone. No I got slated for saying he was always injured then people like you came out with stats to his appearances. The top and bottom of it is he is a injury prone player who I think is overrated. He’s decent end of So not so much slating you as demonstrating why you’re wrong… He’s better than decent he’s one of the best players in the division.
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Post by somersetstokie on Jul 4, 2022 18:01:11 GMT
Wouldn't mind a loan move for Troy Parrott if available. Starting at last to look a decent player after not really impressing too much after a lot expected of him. Can play that role If only for another three pages on here of puns and witticisms from Oatie posters, all referencing Parrots, Pirates and contrived avian connections.
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Post by wakeypotter on Jul 4, 2022 18:01:14 GMT
Be great all he wants. If he never plays whats the point? How many times have we had a fully fit and firing Nick Powell? We need treat Powell as a bonus/luxury player. You can never plan a team or season around a nick powell. 19/20 he was fit for a good chunk but Jones wouldn’t play him. Played most games from New Year onwards under O’Neill and was a key player. 20/21 he missed 7 games. Was one of the best players in the league. 21/22 he missed a lot of games but most of that was due to a broken leg. Could happen to anybody. As could doing your ACL. See what I mean. So how many games did he play last season
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jul 4, 2022 18:02:40 GMT
You got slated for not rating him, not for saying he was injury prone. No I got slated for saying he was always injured then people like you came out with stats to his appearances. The top and bottom of it is he is a injury prone player who I think is overrated. He’s decent end of Don't those stats prove he's not injury prone though 👍
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Post by wakeypotter on Jul 4, 2022 18:03:02 GMT
No I got slated for saying he was always injured then people like you came out with stats to his appearances. The top and bottom of it is he is a injury prone player who I think is overrated. He’s decent end of So not so much slating you as demonstrating why you’re wrong… He’s better than decent he’s one of the best players in the division. In your opinion Why has no one come in for him then I mean one of the best players in the division a year on his contract he must be a bargain for someone who is class
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2022 18:05:22 GMT
Wouldn't mind a loan move for Troy Parrott if available. Starting at last to look a decent player after not really impressing too much after a lot expected of him. Can play that role If only for another three pages on here of puns and witticisms from Oatie posters, all referencing Parrots, Pirates and contrived avian connections. Don't be arrrrd on them. Be an ideal replacement for me. Been playing that role for Eire last few games and done great. Shouldn't cost much booty.
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Post by wakeypotter on Jul 4, 2022 18:07:54 GMT
No I got slated for saying he was always injured then people like you came out with stats to his appearances. The top and bottom of it is he is a injury prone player who I think is overrated. He’s decent end of Don't those stats prove he's not injury prone though 👍 He played 18 games last season that’s missing 28 games for a hairline fracture. He was injured before that also
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2022 18:08:54 GMT
He doesn't work hard. He never breaks sweat. Absolute horse meat. He works unbelievably hard. As the previous poster said, you can't be watching the games if that's your honest opinion, although I suspect it isn't. So basically, he works incredibly hard, he's incredibly talented, he never gets injured......and yet he's playing for Stoke. Something somewhere doesn't stack up. There's a reason he doesn't play in the top flight or even a top championship team. He will never make the most of his natural ability. Some players are dedicated and squeeze every last drop out of what they have. Others don't.
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Post by wuzza on Jul 4, 2022 18:11:18 GMT
I am a long way from the Nick Powell / footballing genius school of thought but 2 things I think are undeniable 1/ He can occasionally provide a touch of quality and 2/ He has a reasonable eye for a goal. These 2 things seems to be in alarmingly short supply in our squad of Championship journeymen so unless MON is highly confident that some of the youngsters are going to step up a grade this season I think there is a drastic need for some inspired transfer dealing in the very near future.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jul 4, 2022 18:13:36 GMT
Don't those stats prove he's not injury prone though 👍 He played 18 games last season that’s missing 28 games for a hairline fracture. He was injured before that also And how long should a player be out for a broken leg because that's what it is hairline or not?
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Post by wakeypotter on Jul 4, 2022 18:16:26 GMT
He played 18 games last season that’s missing 28 games for a hairline fracture. He was injured before that also And how long should a player be out for a broken leg because that's what it is hairline or not? Between 6 to 8 weeks for a full recovery Some folk just won’t have owt said about Powell Some are just over the top about him 🤷♀️
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jul 4, 2022 18:18:40 GMT
He has the quality, of course, however, apart from his shite time at Man U, the lower half Championship is the best level he has played, which to be honest is shit for the talent he has. I am in the talented but unreliable camp with him, injury and attitude at times have held him back. I also think he can be lazy and, whilst many forgive him for the quality he brings I really do not like it.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 4, 2022 18:25:56 GMT
So not so much slating you as demonstrating why you’re wrong… He’s better than decent he’s one of the best players in the division. In your opinion Why has no one come in for him then I mean one of the best players in the division a year on his contract he must be a bargain for someone who is class Not just in my opinion no, by plenty of metrics. I can dig those out again if I really have to? He’s turned down a couple of Prem offers hasn’t he, because he’s a bit of a home bird? It wouldn’t matter if he hadn’t. Nobody came in for Fuller, he was still priceless to us.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 4, 2022 18:28:20 GMT
19/20 he was fit for a good chunk but Jones wouldn’t play him. Played most games from New Year onwards under O’Neill and was a key player. 20/21 he missed 7 games. Was one of the best players in the league. 21/22 he missed a lot of games but most of that was due to a broken leg. Could happen to anybody. As could doing your ACL. See what I mean. So how many games did he play last season Not really no, he’s had one injury-hit season in three. He missed most of last season because he broke his leg.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jul 4, 2022 18:35:56 GMT
And how long should a player be out for a broken leg because that's what it is hairline or not? Between 6 to 8 weeks for a full recovery Some folk just won’t have owt said about Powell Some are just over the top about him 🤷♀️ Not over the top, I think he's quality yes but I'm just stating the only season with us where he's missed lot of game through injury is the one in which he broke his leg.
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