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Post by theonlooker on Jul 4, 2022 18:52:34 GMT
Dreadful news and a bitter blow to the squad.
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Post by neddy on Jul 4, 2022 18:55:18 GMT
Dreadful news and a bitter blow to the squad. What is? Do you mean the rumoured Powell injury or do you know he may have done his ACL?
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Post by wakeypotter on Jul 4, 2022 19:18:33 GMT
In your opinion Why has no one come in for him then I mean one of the best players in the division a year on his contract he must be a bargain for someone who is class Not just in my opinion no, by plenty of metrics. I can dig those out again if I really have to? He’s turned down a couple of Prem offers hasn’t he, because he’s a bit of a home bird? It wouldn’t matter if he hadn’t. Nobody came in for Fuller, he was still priceless to us. As I’ve said to you before I don’t look at stats I look at performances with my eyes and then judge. Yes he’s got a good goals to games ratio. I don’t believe he has turned down prem teams to stay with us a club which some say he doesn’t like. Maybe not but he couldn’t lace fullers boots
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 4, 2022 19:20:44 GMT
Not just in my opinion no, by plenty of metrics. I can dig those out again if I really have to? He’s turned down a couple of Prem offers hasn’t he, because he’s a bit of a home bird? It wouldn’t matter if he hadn’t. Nobody came in for Fuller, he was still priceless to us. As I’ve said to you before I don’t look at stats I look at performances with my eyes and then judge. Yes he’s got a good goals to games ratio. I don’t believe he has turned down prem teams to stay with us a club which some say he doesn’t like. Maybe not but he couldn’t lace fullers boots It’s more than his goals to games ratio. Tachyon gave a detailed analysis of what he brings a while back. You go on about what your eyes tell you but the player you think he should be doesn’t exist, certainly at this level.
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Post by wakeypotter on Jul 4, 2022 19:21:02 GMT
See what I mean. So how many games did he play last season Not really no, he’s had one injury-hit season in three. He missed most of last season because he broke his leg. He missed 28 games for a 6 to 8 week full recovery period. He was injured earlier on before his fracture
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Post by wakeypotter on Jul 4, 2022 19:21:51 GMT
Between 6 to 8 weeks for a full recovery Some folk just won’t have owt said about Powell Some are just over the top about him 🤷♀️ Not over the top, I think he's quality yes but I'm just stating the only season with us where he's missed lot of game through injury is the one in which he broke his leg. But he was injured before his leg fracture
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jul 4, 2022 19:33:36 GMT
Dreadful news and a bitter blow to the squad. Has it been officially confirmed?
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 4, 2022 20:10:05 GMT
Extremely debatable. Hes a brilliany shithouse of a player who knows how to win free kicks and wind up the oppositon. There's a difference between that, and somebody who works hard for the team though. You can’t be watching the games if you don’t think Powell works hard and puts himself about. In fact when he broke his leg last season that was after doing just that! I'm pretty sure it's because he's got a nice smart haircut and is called Nick.
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 4, 2022 20:13:49 GMT
Not just in my opinion no, by plenty of metrics. I can dig those out again if I really have to? He’s turned down a couple of Prem offers hasn’t he, because he’s a bit of a home bird? It wouldn’t matter if he hadn’t. Nobody came in for Fuller, he was still priceless to us. As I’ve said to you before I don’t look at stats I look at performances with my eyes and then judge. Yes he’s got a good goals to games ratio. I don’t believe he has turned down prem teams to stay with us a club which some say he doesn’t like. Maybe not but he couldn’t lace fullers boots Trouble is, if someone has made their mind up they see what they want to see. I do it myself with certain players - anything good they do is either disregarded or lucky or he should be doing that anyway. Any mistakes are pounced upon and held up as evidence I'm right. Confirmation bias.
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Post by wakeypotter on Jul 4, 2022 20:50:17 GMT
As I’ve said to you before I don’t look at stats I look at performances with my eyes and then judge. Yes he’s got a good goals to games ratio. I don’t believe he has turned down prem teams to stay with us a club which some say he doesn’t like. Maybe not but he couldn’t lace fullers boots It’s more than his goals to games ratio. Tachyon gave a detailed analysis of what he brings a while back. You go on about what your eyes tell you but the player you think he should be doesn’t exist, certainly at this level. You go on as if I want messi or something. I didn’t say a player existed or not. I wouldn’t even be bothered replacing Powell if you read my post properly I think he’s decent but not the world beater you and some others think. Like I said overrated but that doesn’t mean I think he’s shit
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Post by gingerninja on Jul 4, 2022 20:54:47 GMT
What injury are we speculating him as having?
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Post by wakeypotter on Jul 4, 2022 20:55:32 GMT
As I’ve said to you before I don’t look at stats I look at performances with my eyes and then judge. Yes he’s got a good goals to games ratio. I don’t believe he has turned down prem teams to stay with us a club which some say he doesn’t like. Maybe not but he couldn’t lace fullers boots Trouble is, if someone has made their mind up they see what they want to see. I do it myself with certain players - anything good they do is either disregarded or lucky or he should be doing that anyway. Any mistakes are pounced upon and held up as evidence I'm right. Confirmation bias. Yeh I get what you are saying but I like to think I’m honest whether I like a player or not. I don’t dislike Powell I just think some people blow smoke out of his rear when let’s be honest he doesn’t play well in 50% of his games. Too inconsistent for me
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 4, 2022 20:56:05 GMT
It’s more than his goals to games ratio. Tachyon gave a detailed analysis of what he brings a while back. You go on about what your eyes tell you but the player you think he should be doesn’t exist, certainly at this level. You go on as if I want messi or something. I didn’t say a player existed or not. I wouldn’t even be bothered replacing Powell if you read my post properly I think he’s decent but not the world beater you and some others think. Like I said overrated but that doesn’t mean I think he’s shit You seem to want a player who's brilliant for every minute of every game every week. You don't want Messi but when I do ask you for a frame of reference or a player by way of comparison you've got nothing. It's clearly more than 50% of his games but again, you won't have any amount of evidence to what your biases are telling you.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 4, 2022 20:57:19 GMT
What injury are we speculating him as having? ACL.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 4, 2022 21:04:14 GMT
Not really no, he’s had one injury-hit season in three. He missed most of last season because he broke his leg. He missed 28 games for a 6 to 8 week full recovery period. He was injured earlier on before his fracture 6 to 8 weeks to heal and back to full fitness, give over.
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Post by wakeypotter on Jul 4, 2022 21:09:12 GMT
He missed 28 games for a 6 to 8 week full recovery period. He was injured earlier on before his fracture 6 to 8 weeks to heal and back to full fitness, give over. You Google it 6 to 8 weeks full recovery Granted fitness may take a bit longer
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Post by wakeypotter on Jul 4, 2022 21:12:34 GMT
You go on as if I want messi or something. I didn’t say a player existed or not. I wouldn’t even be bothered replacing Powell if you read my post properly I think he’s decent but not the world beater you and some others think. Like I said overrated but that doesn’t mean I think he’s shit You seem to want a player who's brilliant for every minute of every game every week. You don't want Messi but when I do ask you for a frame of reference or a player by way of comparison you've got nothing. It's clearly more than 50% of his games but again, you won't have any amount of evidence to what your biases are telling you. Again your not reading what I am saying I never said I want to replace him I said he’s OVERRATED
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 4, 2022 21:15:33 GMT
You seem to want a player who's brilliant for every minute of every game every week. You don't want Messi but when I do ask you for a frame of reference or a player by way of comparison you've got nothing. It's clearly more than 50% of his games but again, you won't have any amount of evidence to what your biases are telling you. Again your not reading what I am saying I never said I want to replace him I said he’s OVERRATED I never said you wanted to replace him either. I'm saying your suggestion that he only turns up 50% of the time and that he doesn't contribute enough is wrong and I want you to tell me who in this league is the kind of player in that position that the 'overrated' Powell should aspire to be like? Here's that Tachyon article again, for reference www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-nick-powell-contract-7029699
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Post by scfc75 on Jul 4, 2022 21:24:35 GMT
6 to 8 weeks to heal and back to full fitness, give over. You Google it 6 to 8 weeks full recovery Granted fitness may take a bit longer Ah Google, the go-to point of reference for the discerning sports therapist 😂
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Post by sticky on Jul 4, 2022 21:33:44 GMT
Really shit news if true..was feeling optimistic as well for this season, the lads been unlucky with injuries recently, let’s hope it’s not as serious as some fear 🙏🏻
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2022 21:34:09 GMT
6 to 8 weeks to heal and back to full fitness, give over. You Google it 6 to 8 weeks full recovery Granted fitness may take a bit longer The six to eight weeks is a general time frame for an average person not a highly trained professional footballer.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 4, 2022 21:34:38 GMT
Powell "being monitored back home", Souttar in line to join the squad......
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 4, 2022 21:38:32 GMT
You Google it 6 to 8 weeks full recovery Granted fitness may take a bit longer The six to eight weeks is a general time frame for an average person not a highly trained professional footballer. Do their bones heal differently
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 4, 2022 21:38:33 GMT
Powell injury doesn't sound great, as expected.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 4, 2022 21:39:57 GMT
Really shit news if true..was feeling optimistic as well for this season, the lads been unlucky with injuries recently, let’s hope it’s not as serious as some fear 🙏🏻 Given he was likely to be shunted out of position I don't think it will be the disaster it could have been, if he is badly injured of course. I know that sounds stupid but I know what I mean
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 4, 2022 21:40:16 GMT
Just made up it then didn’t I 🤦♂️
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Post by gingerninja on Jul 4, 2022 21:40:35 GMT
I wonder if Powell is ruled out for a lengthy spell, we will try and get Tom Lawrence from Derby?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2022 21:41:57 GMT
Holden said is a knee injury and just monitoring at the moment. Hopefully not as bad as we thought
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Post by LGH87 on Jul 4, 2022 21:44:36 GMT
Been told it’s not ACL but will still face a spell on the sidelines, extent not known yet.
Praying the ACL bit is true, even if he’s out for a couple of months.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 4, 2022 21:45:18 GMT
Fits with them waiting for the swelling to go down to scan it. Doesn't sound great and they've probably got a suspicion, but no point jumping to conclusions until we get something definitive
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