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Post by eriksson74 on Aug 18, 2022 21:38:37 GMT
Our number 1 target should be a bloody manager who wants to play on the front foot & attack, all this playing tippy tippy across the back is bollocks. You’d soon be moaning when we’re launching balls up to nobody. The moans in the crowd every single time a pass is played back even when there is clearly no pass on, is pathetic Unfortunately it's not new, the amount of moans when one of the best midfielders we had, N'Zonzi, won and kept the ball by playing back before we went forward was a disgrace. I recall one lovely Stoke fan hitting me for celebrating a goal which came from keeping the ball by playing back by him, drawing in the oppo and going forward, as I said that's why we keep the ball and go back. There needs to be a purpose for sure, ie reset, draw the opposition forward, create space etc,but going back and keeping the ball is not an issue at all.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Aug 19, 2022 0:44:48 GMT
theathletic.com/3372919/2022/06/20/sterling-jesus-transfer-chelsea-arsenal/There is also the option for James McAtee to get some minutes in the attack. Although he is a midfielder, he is more likely to be introduced to the team in a wide role, like Foden and Palmer before him. Several clubs would like to sign him, including Leeds, but both McAtee and City are expecting first-team involvement next season. Liam Delap, meanwhile, is expected to go on loan. Leave it, just leave it! 😂 Grapey, it's not your fault, it's not your fault........ I put this signing solely down to FullerMagic! His persistence paid off! 😘
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Post by cvillestokie on Aug 19, 2022 2:09:35 GMT
You’d soon be moaning when we’re launching balls up to nobody. The moans in the crowd every single time a pass is played back even when there is clearly no pass on, is pathetic Unfortunately it's not new, the amount of moans when one of the best midfielders we had, N'Zonzi, won and kept the ball by playing back before we went forward was a disgrace. I recall one lovely Stoke fan hitting me for celebrating a goal which came from keeping the ball by playing back by him, drawing in the oppo and going forward, as I said that's why we keep the ball and go back. There needs to be a purpose for sure, ie reset, draw the opposition forward, create space etc,but going back and keeping the ball is not an issue at all. Every tactic is an issue when it becomes predictable. If an opposition team has your style scouted, you need to change it. Passing the ball around the back is fine when there’s a quick pass from the centre back to a wide back who then pushes it forwards. Most of the time however, we just hoof it aimlessly forwards after allowing their defensive line time to reset.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Aug 19, 2022 6:16:05 GMT
I like Wilmot, despite being on his wrong side of the defence, not through his choice, his passing is always positive and he by and large tries to play a proactive pass, rather than continually sideways. I like him but he’s been the worst player by some distance this season. Needs to wise up.
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Post by andystokey on Aug 19, 2022 6:32:26 GMT
I like Wilmot, despite being on his wrong side of the defence, not through his choice, his passing is always positive and he by and large tries to play a proactive pass, rather than continually sideways. I like him but he’s been the worst player by some distance this season. Needs to wise up. Spat my tea out
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Post by lordb on Aug 19, 2022 6:58:24 GMT
You’d soon be moaning when we’re launching balls up to nobody. The moans in the crowd every single time a pass is played back even when there is clearly no pass on, is pathetic Unfortunately it's not new, the amount of moans when one of the best midfielders we had, N'Zonzi, won and kept the ball by playing back before we went forward was a disgrace. I recall one lovely Stoke fan hitting me for celebrating a goal which came from keeping the ball by playing back by him, drawing in the oppo and going forward, as I said that's why we keep the ball and go back. There needs to be a purpose for sure, ie reset, draw the opposition forward, create space etc,but going back and keeping the ball is not an issue at all. You actually got hit by a Stoke fan for celebrating a Stoke goal? 😮
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Aug 19, 2022 7:29:22 GMT
I like him but he’s been the worst player by some distance this season. Needs to wise up. Spat my tea out What games have you watched? Millwall he passed the ball out of play at least 3 times. He was absolutely shocking. Didn’t watch Blackpool. The other two games he’s been dreadful.
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Post by andystokey on Aug 19, 2022 8:02:32 GMT
What games have you watched? Millwall he passed the ball out of play at least 3 times. He was absolutely shocking. Didn’t watch Blackpool. The other two games he’s been dreadful. I've watched every game including pre season. He wasn't even close to being the worst player at Boro, Huddersfield or Blackpool so your comment makes no sense.
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Post by eriksson74 on Aug 19, 2022 8:03:45 GMT
Unfortunately it's not new, the amount of moans when one of the best midfielders we had, N'Zonzi, won and kept the ball by playing back before we went forward was a disgrace. I recall one lovely Stoke fan hitting me for celebrating a goal which came from keeping the ball by playing back by him, drawing in the oppo and going forward, as I said that's why we keep the ball and go back. There needs to be a purpose for sure, ie reset, draw the opposition forward, create space etc,but going back and keeping the ball is not an issue at all. You actually got hit by a Stoke fan for celebrating a Stoke goal? 😮 Unfortunately yes, this feller had been giving N'zonzi loads, so as celebrated and shouted that's why we keep ball etc, he took exception to the joy of the moment. Sad but true
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Post by lordb on Aug 19, 2022 8:05:59 GMT
You actually got hit by a Stoke fan for celebrating a Stoke goal? 😮 Unfortunately yes, this feller had been giving N'zonzi loads, so as celebrated and shouted that's why we keep ball etc, he took exception to the joy of the moment. Sad but true fucking hell what an absolute bell end (them not you)
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Aug 19, 2022 11:40:03 GMT
You’d soon be moaning when we’re launching balls up to nobody. The moans in the crowd every single time a pass is played back even when there is clearly no pass on, is pathetic Unfortunately it's not new, the amount of moans when one of the best midfielders we had, N'Zonzi, won and kept the ball by playing back before we went forward was a disgrace. I recall one lovely Stoke fan hitting me for celebrating a goal which came from keeping the ball by playing back by him, drawing in the oppo and going forward, as I said that's why we keep the ball and go back. There needs to be a purpose for sure, ie reset, draw the opposition forward, create space etc,but going back and keeping the ball is not an issue at all. It is when that's the default setting. The manager kept saying they've got to be braver on the ball last season which seemed to have been heeded somewhat vs Blackpool but we were back to default vs Boro. Are the players getting mixed messages ie you've got to be braver with the ball conjoined with a blame culture when they try things that don't come off? or is that just interview talk and he's the root of the caution?
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Aug 19, 2022 11:48:18 GMT
He's not bang average, he is a good player with potential to get better. He's not a 35 million pound player though, surely you agree with that. Liverpool bought Salah for 35 million 5 years ago... And if anything transfer fees and spending has been decreasing since 2020 too. I didn't see much of him at Sheffield United but I seen plenty of him at Wolves and I didn't think that much of him. What price would you value him at? Dunno but I saw him a few times for Sheff Utd in a midfield with Sander Berge and I'd take Berge over him everytime.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 19, 2022 12:29:27 GMT
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Post by monkeycat on Aug 19, 2022 12:33:28 GMT
Hopefully the one area is the whole defence
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Aug 19, 2022 12:34:29 GMT
Seems reasonable. Shifting Etebo out with all his wage covered would get you a couple in. Not sure what other outs are likely.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 19, 2022 12:34:41 GMT
Could that be why Clucas has started a couple of games? Panicky shop window?
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Aug 19, 2022 12:36:39 GMT
Could that be why Clucas has started a couple of games? Panicky shop window? Think you'd have more chance of getting rid of him by not playing him lol.
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Post by skip on Aug 19, 2022 12:38:55 GMT
Could that be why Clucas has started a couple of games? Panicky shop window? I sincerely hope so and the only reason I can think of for him starting. Wouldn't be so bad if actually went to the effort of pulling up a couple of trees to help him do so. More generally, Clucas looks to me like one of those footballers that doesn't massively love their job, they just happen to be much better at it than the majority of onlookers.
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Post by J-Roar on Aug 19, 2022 12:43:17 GMT
You actually got hit by a Stoke fan for celebrating a Stoke goal? 😮 Unfortunately yes, this feller had been giving N'zonzi loads, so as celebrated and shouted that's why we keep ball etc, he took exception to the joy of the moment. Sad but true There are some thick fucks about.
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Post by somersetstokie on Aug 19, 2022 12:49:39 GMT
Could that be why Clucas has started a couple of games? Panicky shop window? From what I hear, any "value" and transfer potential that Clucas might have has been severely diminished by his recent very poor "shop window" appearances.
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Post by mcw on Aug 19, 2022 12:52:40 GMT
Could that be why Clucas has started a couple of games? Panicky shop window? From what I hear, any "value" and transfer potential that Clucas might have has been severely diminished by his recent very poor "shop window" appearances. We'd probably have to take a loss on him to get him out the door. No resale value and can't imagine anyone paying him more than we are....as such this is probably a dead duck. He will be with us until the end of his contract, unless there is a manager out there that has some kind of weird fixation on a peak Clucas playing 2 years ago and further back.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 19, 2022 12:54:25 GMT
Hopefully the one area is the whole defence No hopefully it’s the managers position…
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Post by 16quidachuck on Aug 19, 2022 12:56:07 GMT
This screams goalkeeper to me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2022 13:13:10 GMT
This screams goalkeeper to me. Unfortunately I don't think so. He's pretty consistently said he wants a lcb.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Aug 19, 2022 13:38:48 GMT
Could that be why Clucas has started a couple of games? Panicky shop window? £500,000 for the Golden "I play every game" ticket & get the player for free
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2022 14:27:31 GMT
This screams goalkeeper to me. Let's hope so
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 19, 2022 14:39:06 GMT
You’d soon be moaning when we’re launching balls up to nobody. The moans in the crowd every single time a pass is played back even when there is clearly no pass on, is pathetic Unfortunately it's not new, the amount of moans when one of the best midfielders we had, N'Zonzi, won and kept the ball by playing back before we went forward was a disgrace. I recall one lovely Stoke fan hitting me for celebrating a goal which came from keeping the ball by playing back by him, drawing in the oppo and going forward, as I said that's why we keep the ball and go back. There needs to be a purpose for sure, ie reset, draw the opposition forward, create space etc,but going back and keeping the ball is not an issue at all. My favourite all time post on here was someone who said apart from never giving the ball away what does Ibrahim Affelay bring to the team. Thank god we never had that Johan Cruyff as manager. Total football? Load of old bollocks.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 19, 2022 14:41:47 GMT
This screams goalkeeper to me. Unfortunately I don't think so. He's pretty consistently said he wants a lcb. Yeah he's referring to centre backs, they're happy with the goalkeeping situation for whatever reason.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 19, 2022 14:47:05 GMT
Unfortunately it's not new, the amount of moans when one of the best midfielders we had, N'Zonzi, won and kept the ball by playing back before we went forward was a disgrace. I recall one lovely Stoke fan hitting me for celebrating a goal which came from keeping the ball by playing back by him, drawing in the oppo and going forward, as I said that's why we keep the ball and go back. There needs to be a purpose for sure, ie reset, draw the opposition forward, create space etc,but going back and keeping the ball is not an issue at all. It is when that's the default setting. The manager kept saying they've got to be braver on the ball last season which seemed to have been heeded somewhat vs Blackpool but we were back to default vs Boro. Are the players getting mixed messages ie you've got to be braver with the ball conjoined with a blame culture when they try things that don't come off? or is that just interview talk and he's the root of the caution? Against Blackpool Tymon and Clarke pushed up and the shape of the team from the outset was 352. Against Boro we had a Thompson filling in and Fosu who had been at the club for about 48 hours and from the outset Boro pressed and we ended up shaping up in a 532 and never got to take the game to the opposition until we went gung ho and chucked the kitchen sink at it and got lucky. The Boro performance was nothing to do with a blame culture or being overly cautious - it was a switched on opposition exploiting a patched up team that played badly on the day.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 19, 2022 14:58:30 GMT
It is when that's the default setting. The manager kept saying they've got to be braver on the ball last season which seemed to have been heeded somewhat vs Blackpool but we were back to default vs Boro. Are the players getting mixed messages ie you've got to be braver with the ball conjoined with a blame culture when they try things that don't come off? or is that just interview talk and he's the root of the caution? Against Blackpool Tymon and Clarke pushed up and the shape of the team from the outset was 352. Against Boro we had a Thompson filling in and Fosu who had been at the club for about 48 hours and from the outset Boro pressed and we ended up shaping up in a 532 and never got to take the game to the opposition until we went gung ho and chucked the kitchen sink at it and got lucky. The Boro performance was nothing to do with a blame culture or being overly cautious - it was a switched on opposition exploiting a patched up team that played badly on the day. Never the manager’s fault is it…
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