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Apr 4, 2024 21:11:39 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 4, 2024 21:11:39 GMT
Hard to get all these in an 11 though mate. If you’re manager you’re not dropping Foden, Bellingham of Saka. All have tournament experience which counts for a lot doesnt it? I’m no fan of Southgate but I couldn’t justify dropping any of those atm. Palmers time will come but he isn’t starting in the Euros He played Gordon though. Which was imo strange. That is strange, don’t rate Gordon too much myself. Not sure what he brings in front of others
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Apr 4, 2024 21:11:57 GMT
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Post by lordb on Apr 4, 2024 21:11:57 GMT
Hard to get all these in an 11 though mate. If you’re manager you’re not dropping Foden, Bellingham of Saka. All have tournament experience which counts for a lot doesnt it? I’m no fan of Southgate but I couldn’t justify dropping any of those atm. Palmers time will come but he isn’t starting in the Euros He played Gordon though. Which was imo strange. Not if he's not 100% sure the left side options
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Apr 4, 2024 21:12:34 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 4, 2024 21:12:34 GMT
Didn’t he just want to make sure Gordon wasn’t going to choose Scotland or am I reading too much into it?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 4, 2024 21:13:20 GMT
He played Gordon though. Which was imo strange. That is strange, don’t rate Gordon too much myself. Not sure what he brings in front of others I think he’s been ok this season but to use him over Palmer in the friendlies was baffling.
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Apr 4, 2024 21:14:41 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 4, 2024 21:14:41 GMT
That is strange, don’t rate Gordon too much myself. Not sure what he brings in front of others I think he’s been ok this season but to use him over Palmer in the friendlies was baffling. Dunno. Training etc🤷🏻♂️
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Post by lordb on Apr 4, 2024 21:15:17 GMT
That is strange, don’t rate Gordon too much myself. Not sure what he brings in front of others I think he’s been ok this season but to use him over Palmer in the friendlies was baffling. On the left? Surely it isn't baffling at all Palmer if he plays is either behind the striker or on the right
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Apr 4, 2024 21:29:30 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 4, 2024 21:29:30 GMT
I think he’s been ok this season but to use him over Palmer in the friendlies was baffling. Dunno. Training etc🤷🏻♂️ As ever….could not give a shit 🤣 Palmer is a class above. If he wasn’t training and was calling Southgate a cunt I’d want him in the squad. Totally worth it.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 4, 2024 21:30:32 GMT
I think he’s been ok this season but to use him over Palmer in the friendlies was baffling. On the left? Surely it isn't baffling at all Palmer if he plays is either behind the striker or on the right I think we should be playing a formation where the attacking midfielders are constantly swapping tbh.
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Apr 4, 2024 21:31:47 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 4, 2024 21:31:47 GMT
As ever….could not give a shit 🤣 Palmer is a class above. If he wasn’t training and was calling Southgate a cunt I’d want him in the squad. Totally worth it. That’s not how teams work though is it? It would t be long until you lost a dressing room mate😉
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Apr 4, 2024 21:33:52 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 4, 2024 21:33:52 GMT
As ever….could not give a shit 🤣 Palmer is a class above. If he wasn’t training and was calling Southgate a cunt I’d want him in the squad. Totally worth it. That’s not how teams work though is it? It would t be long until you lost a dressing room mate😉 I think the training argument is a shit argument used by cowardly managers who don’t have an actual reason for not using a player. So right up Southgate’s street.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 4, 2024 21:44:16 GMT
That’s not how teams work though is it? It would t be long until you lost a dressing room mate😉 I think the training argument is a shit argument used by cowardly managers who don’t have an actual reason for not using a player. So right up Southgate’s street. So if you were a manager who was told to fuck off every day and not participate in training like the rest of the squad (extreme example obviously). You would say that player is playing because I believe he’s better than the rest of you? That wouldn’t go down very well would it and the rest of the squad will think fuck you. Like I said, you’d lose the dressing room pretty quick over favouring one player that didn’t pull their weight
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Apr 4, 2024 21:45:24 GMT
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Post by PotteringThrough on Apr 4, 2024 21:45:24 GMT
Gordon is something different again. Runs at people, causes problems and can make things happen. Not a bad option to have (if Southgate was willing to make subs to change games).
Wins penalties as well.
I’d take Watkins and Toney, dropping Rashford.
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Apr 4, 2024 21:45:44 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 4, 2024 21:45:44 GMT
He's not as good as the players ahead of him On the bench for England He’s better than them all currently. By a bit of a distance too. Absolute concrete bollocks, as ever.
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Post by lordb on Apr 4, 2024 21:45:46 GMT
On the left? Surely it isn't baffling at all Palmer if he plays is either behind the striker or on the right I think we should be playing a formation where the attacking midfielders are constantly swapping tbh. Ok That's Foden and Saka then Palmer on the bench happy days
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Apr 4, 2024 21:46:15 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 4, 2024 21:46:15 GMT
I think the training argument is a shit argument used by cowardly managers who don’t have an actual reason for not using a player. So right up Southgate’s street. So if you were a manager who was told to fuck off every day and not participate in training like the rest of the squad (extreme example obviously). You would say that player is playing because I believe he’s better than the rest of you? That wouldn’t go down very well would it and the rest of the squad will think fuck you. Like I said, you’d lose the dressing room pretty quick over favouring one player that didn’t pull their weight We literally did it with one of my favourite players. If they were that good then yes I would do it. And I’d like to think if I was one of the others who wasn’t as good then I’d totally understand why.
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Apr 4, 2024 21:46:54 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 4, 2024 21:46:54 GMT
He’s better than them all currently. By a bit of a distance too. Absolute concrete bollocks, as ever. Who’s he not better than that’s currently on the bench for England?
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Apr 4, 2024 21:48:51 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 4, 2024 21:48:51 GMT
Absolute concrete bollocks, as ever. Who’s he not better than that’s currently on the bench for England? The bench? Thought you meant Saka and Foden 🤣
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Apr 4, 2024 21:51:47 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 4, 2024 21:51:47 GMT
So if you were a manager who was told to fuck off every day and not participate in training like the rest of the squad (extreme example obviously). You would say that player is playing because I believe he’s better than the rest of you? That wouldn’t go down very well would it and the rest of the squad will think fuck you. Like I said, you’d lose the dressing room pretty quick over favouring one player that didn’t pull their weight We literally did it with one of my favourite players. If they were that good then yes I would do it. And I’d like to think if I was one of the others who wasn’t as good then I’d totally understand why. Who’s that then?
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Apr 4, 2024 21:52:19 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 4, 2024 21:52:19 GMT
Who’s he not better than that’s currently on the bench for England? The bench? Thought you meant Saka and Foden 🤣 No. Reading it back, he’s not put a full stop where one was needed so it reads like he’s not better than the players on the bench. Which after your post, I read it back and he means he should be on the bench. I read it as it’s written without the full stop.
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Apr 4, 2024 21:52:37 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 4, 2024 21:52:37 GMT
We literally did it with one of my favourite players. If they were that good then yes I would do it. And I’d like to think if I was one of the others who wasn’t as good then I’d totally understand why. Who’s that then? Fuller
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Apr 4, 2024 21:54:26 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 4, 2024 21:54:26 GMT
A d how do you know this?
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Apr 4, 2024 21:56:20 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 4, 2024 21:56:20 GMT
A d how do you know this? How don’t you? I’m not even joking there either. It’s really well documented by all of the players that have spoken about that time at the club. He’d turn up late, went missing for a week before the Wolves game etc. And to a man they overlooked that because they know he carried them 🤣
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Apr 4, 2024 22:00:02 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 4, 2024 22:00:02 GMT
A d how do you know this? How don’t you? I’m not even joking there either. It’s really documented by all of the players that have spoken about that time at the club. He’d turn up late, went missing for a week before the Wolves game etc. And to a man they overlooked that because they know he carried them 🤣 Back in the day and all that
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Apr 4, 2024 22:00:51 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 4, 2024 22:00:51 GMT
How don’t you? I’m not even joking there either. It’s really documented by all of the players that have spoken about that time at the club. He’d turn up late, went missing for a week before the Wolves game etc. And to a man they overlooked that because they know he carried them 🤣 Back in the day and all that Still under a manager who I think we’d all agree took no shit and would ordinarily not stand for any of that thing. Yet he did.
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Apr 5, 2024 11:07:49 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 5, 2024 11:07:49 GMT
I think he’s been ok this season but to use him over Palmer in the friendlies was baffling. On the left? Surely it isn't baffling at all Palmer if he plays is either behind the striker or on the right No, on the right. When Gordon came on, he switched Foden fom the left to the right to accommodate Gordon on the left. He should have just left Foden where he was and played Palmer on the right.
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Apr 5, 2024 11:10:11 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 5, 2024 11:10:11 GMT
Why we can't afford to take Rashford ...
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 5, 2024 11:14:27 GMT
So if you were a manager who was told to fuck off every day and not participate in training like the rest of the squad (extreme example obviously). You would say that player is playing because I believe he’s better than the rest of you? That wouldn’t go down very well would it and the rest of the squad will think fuck you. Like I said, you’d lose the dressing room pretty quick over favouring one player that didn’t pull their weight We literally did it with one of my favourite players. If they were that good then yes I would do it. And I’d like to think if I was one of the others who wasn’t as good then I’d totally understand why. It happened every now and again and he was cut some slack, probably like a lot of well performing players under any good manager. Just don't hear about it. It wasn't happening 'literally' every day.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 5, 2024 11:15:28 GMT
Why we can't afford to take Rashford ... What a waste of talent. Pointing to his team mates as well.
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Apr 5, 2024 11:24:18 GMT
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Post by lordb on Apr 5, 2024 11:24:18 GMT
On the left? Surely it isn't baffling at all Palmer if he plays is either behind the striker or on the right No, on the right. When Gordon came on, he switched Foden fom the left to the right to accommodate Gordon on the left. He should have just left Foden where he was and played Palmer on the right. Not if he wanted to look at Gordon on the left He's 100% taking Foden and Saka Would suggest although he's probably going to take Rashford and Grealish it's not 100% as such Gordon has a chance to oust one of those two which is why he came on and not Palmer
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Apr 5, 2024 11:40:37 GMT
Why we can't afford to take Rashford ... Is that you Tyrese Campbell??
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