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Post by spitthedog on Mar 31, 2022 17:49:34 GMT
Qatar, Mexico, Iran and Saudi Arabia could be a mouth-watering group. Only Europe can have two teams in the same group. Unfortunately you’ve chosen three from Asia! Wait and see the quality of teams making the 48 team World Cups. DR Congo vs Uzbekistan. UAE vs Burkina Faso. Madagascar vs Scotland. thats a shame...I was looking forward to that. Too many European teams in it usually for me. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 31, 2022 17:52:07 GMT
We need to win it and if we don't we need to finally sack the wet lettuce in charge.
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Mar 31, 2022 18:06:02 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 31, 2022 18:06:02 GMT
We need to win it and if we don't we need to finally sack the wet lettuce in charge. Ya daft bugger |
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Mar 31, 2022 18:08:11 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 31, 2022 18:08:11 GMT
Only Europe can have two teams in the same group. Unfortunately you’ve chosen three from Asia! Wait and see the quality of teams making the 48 team World Cups. DR Congo vs Uzbekistan. UAE vs Burkina Faso. Madagascar vs Scotland. thats a shame...I was looking forward to that. Too many European teams in it usually for me. The only time you get a decent game when it’s two European sides playing each other. |
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Mar 31, 2022 19:23:40 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 31, 2022 19:23:40 GMT
We need to win it and if we don't we need to finally sack the wet lettuce in charge. Ya daft bugger He’s the biggest hinderance to this squad. Not a chance we should have lost the Euros. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2022 19:54:22 GMT
He’s the biggest hinderance to this squad. Not a chance we should have lost the Euros.  |
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Mar 31, 2022 19:57:16 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 31, 2022 19:57:16 GMT
He’s the biggest hinderance to this squad. Not a chance we should have lost the Euros. I fullly agree but to say sack a manger if we don’t win a World Cup is a bit bizarre. We might be the best team in the tournament and get knocked out in the QF by a dirty Uruguayan shit fest. The best teams rarely win the World Cup. If we get knocked out playing well, there’s nowt you can do about it. I agree, that Southgate is “limited” though. Don’t like that word but it’s true |
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Mar 31, 2022 20:03:43 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 31, 2022 20:03:43 GMT
He’s the biggest hinderance to this squad. Not a chance we should have lost the Euros. I fullly agree but to say sack a manger if we don’t win a World Cup is a bit bizarre. We might be the best team in the tournament and get knocked out in the QF by a dirty Uruguayan shit fest. The best teams rarely win the World Cup. If we get knocked out playing well, there’s nowt you can do about it. I agree, that Southgate is “limited” though. Don’t like that word but it’s true I’d sack him yesterday but saying what I said makes it sound a tad more reasonable 😂 |
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Mar 31, 2022 20:14:25 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 31, 2022 20:14:25 GMT
I fullly agree but to say sack a manger if we don’t win a World Cup is a bit bizarre. We might be the best team in the tournament and get knocked out in the QF by a dirty Uruguayan shit fest. The best teams rarely win the World Cup. If we get knocked out playing well, there’s nowt you can do about it. I agree, that Southgate is “limited” though. Don’t like that word but it’s true I’d sack him yesterday but saying what I said makes it sound a tad more reasonable 😂 Never been a fan of his tactics tbh, we have players to blow teams away but he’s too conservative. Having said that, he isn’t going anywhere and despite my reservations I’ll absolutely support him going into a World Cup |
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Mar 31, 2022 20:41:08 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 31, 2022 20:41:08 GMT
I’d sack him yesterday but saying what I said makes it sound a tad more reasonable 😂 Never been a fan of his tactics tbh, we have players to blow teams away but he’s too conservative. Having said that, he isn’t going anywhere and despite my reservations I’ll absolutely support him going into a World Cup I hope we win it but it will be in spite of his negative crap for sure. |
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Mar 31, 2022 20:52:27 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 31, 2022 20:52:27 GMT
Never been a fan of his tactics tbh, we have players to blow teams away but he’s too conservative. Having said that, he isn’t going anywhere and despite my reservations I’ll absolutely support him going into a World Cup I hope we win it but it will be in spite of his negative crap for sure. Well, you know, the players like playing for him so hopefully the squad will be galvanised come the big kick off. Like you, I have very high aspirations for this team and to be fair it’s far more likely than previously. The Euros were infuriating, we’d have won that with more tactical nous but hopefully he’s learned from it. |
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Mar 31, 2022 21:03:42 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 31, 2022 21:03:42 GMT
I hope we win it but it will be in spite of his negative crap for sure. Well, you know, the players like playing for him so hopefully the squad will be galvanised come the big kick off. Like you, I have very high aspirations for this team and to be fair it’s far more likely than previously. The Euros were infuriating, we’d have won that with more tactical nous but hopefully he’s learned from it. They do and that is good and was needed but he’s so limited. If we sacked MON, I wouldn’t want him here. |
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Mar 31, 2022 22:09:08 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 31, 2022 22:09:08 GMT
He’s the biggest hinderance to this squad. Not a chance we should have lost the Euros. Disagree. The best team in the tournament lifted the trophy. Frustrated not to win a game we were leading in but it showed we can compete at a level we never have before. But winning a trophy is beyond us methinks. All in our favour is the weirdness of the whole situation could mean an outsider winning it. |
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Post by Veritas on Apr 1, 2022 8:07:17 GMT
Well, you know, the players like playing for him so hopefully the squad will be galvanised come the big kick off. Like you, I have very high aspirations for this team and to be fair it’s far more likely than previously. The Euros were infuriating, we’d have won that with more tactical nous but hopefully he’s learned from it. They do and that is good and was needed but he’s so limited. If we sacked MON, I wouldn’t want him here. Football is about success, this is even more true at international level where supporters don't have to watch week in week out. Southgate has delivered in successive tournaments a World Cup semi final, only England's third ever, and a Euro final, England's first ever. Only Sir Alf in 66-68 has bettered this and you wouldn't want him as Stoke manager! |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 1, 2022 8:16:35 GMT
They do and that is good and was needed but he’s so limited. If we sacked MON, I wouldn’t want him here. Football is about success, this is even more true at international level where supporters don't have to watch week in week out. Southgate has delivered in successive tournaments a World Cup semi final, only England's third ever, and a Euro final, England's first ever. Only Sir Alf in 66-68 has bettered this and you wouldn't want him as Stoke manager! It's an incredibly different job though isn't it? It doesn't necessarily translate from the international scene to club management. Even as an international manager (and I accept this seems churlish given he's delivered more than any other England manager in my lifetime), his ubercaution and poor subs have been what caused us to fall at the final hurdle, even if they might've helped us get that far to begin with. |
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Apr 1, 2022 8:19:53 GMT
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Post by Veritas on Apr 1, 2022 8:19:53 GMT
Football is about success, this is even more true at international level where supporters don't have to watch week in week out. Southgate has delivered in successive tournaments a World Cup semi final, only England's third ever, and a Euro final, England's first ever. Only Sir Alf in 66-68 has bettered this and you wouldn't want him as Stoke manager! It's an incredibly different job though isn't it? It doesn't necessarily translate from the international scene to club management. Even as an international manager (and I accept this seems churlish given he's delivered more than any other England manager in my lifetime), his ubercaution and poor subs have been what caused us to fall at the final hurdle, even if they might've helped us get that far to begin with. I accept club and international management are vastly different but can anyone seriously say they wouldn't have him as manager of a mid table Championship Stoke!! |
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Post by noustie on Apr 1, 2022 8:24:42 GMT
Weird feeling from my side being in a world cup draw but not being in a world cup draw; wanting to watch but not wanting to watch; wanting to go and not wanting to go and; wanting to draw Qatar but not wanting to draw Qatar as we'd probably be the first team to lose to the fuckers and never live it down especially if it was the opening game.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 1, 2022 8:25:19 GMT
It's an incredibly different job though isn't it? It doesn't necessarily translate from the international scene to club management. Even as an international manager (and I accept this seems churlish given he's delivered more than any other England manager in my lifetime), his ubercaution and poor subs have been what caused us to fall at the final hurdle, even if they might've helped us get that far to begin with. I accept club and international management are vastly different but can anyone seriously say they wouldn't have him as manager of a mid table Championship Stoke!! Because football doesn't work like that? You have to analyse the manager and their set-up and circumstances, and the overall context, it's more complex than 'reached Euro Finals = Championship club would be lucky to have him' Roberto Di Matteo won the Champions League and Avram Grant was a hilarious John Terry proto-meme away from doing the same, I wouldn't have wanted either to be within 100 miles of our job even in their pomp. OGS was managing one of the biggest clubs in the country, finished second in the Premier League and reached a European final and the same applies there too. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 1, 2022 8:40:48 GMT
They do and that is good and was needed but he’s so limited. If we sacked MON, I wouldn’t want him here. Football is about success, this is even more true at international level where supporters don't have to watch week in week out. Southgate has delivered in successive tournaments a World Cup semi final, only England's third ever, and a Euro final, England's first ever. Only Sir Alf in 66-68 has bettered this and you wouldn't want him as Stoke manager! No I wouldn't. He's shown to be a crap club manager. And I don't think he's done a good job with England wise with how we play and what he's shown tactically or style. We can easily do better. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 1, 2022 16:37:42 GMT
How has Jermaine Jenas got this gig?
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Post by thevoid on Apr 1, 2022 16:48:54 GMT
Here we go
Worst case scenario:
England, Germany, Poland, Wales/Jocks
Best case scenario:
England, USA, Tunisia/Iran, Canada/NZ
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 1, 2022 16:54:00 GMT
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Apr 1, 2022 16:57:55 GMT
Denmark will win that group. |
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Post by thevoid on Apr 1, 2022 16:59:35 GMT
Germany paired with Spain. Tasty
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Post by ChesterStokie on Apr 1, 2022 17:00:47 GMT
Is it really any worse than playing Brazil, Argentina, Belgium, Spain etc, because that’s the standard of opposition we can expect in the quarters. |
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Post by thevoid on Apr 1, 2022 17:01:55 GMT
Is it really any worse than playing Brazil, Argentina, Belgium, Spain etc, because that’s the standard of opposition we can expect in the quarters. France have a habit of following a good World Cup with a poor one |
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Apr 1, 2022 17:03:59 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 1, 2022 17:03:59 GMT
England v Iran 21st November
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Post by thevoid on Apr 1, 2022 17:04:18 GMT
Dream scenario's unfolding
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Apr 1, 2022 17:04:32 GMT
It keeps getting better!
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Apr 1, 2022 17:05:25 GMT
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Post by ChesterStokie on Apr 1, 2022 17:05:25 GMT
Well it doesn’t look like it’s been rigged in favour of Qatar!
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