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Mar 31, 2022 8:23:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2022 8:23:43 GMT
Think there's a max of 2 Euro teams in each group, so nightmare group could be getting Germany, Senegal and..maybe Peru?  Not too bad a group. Germany are ok , Peru nothing special and Senagal are decent enough but no potential semi finalists say in any of those 3. Would come out of that unbeaten I'd say |
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Post by werrington on Mar 31, 2022 8:24:49 GMT
Foden and Bellingham I'd hope, I'd also bin Henderson from the squad Rice and Phillips are more than enough for the Ryan Woods role  Henderson is a number 8, it’s not the same role. He gets a lot of shit but he’s made the most of his ability. Jordan Henderson Captain of Liverpool FC…..champions league winner and runner up, premier league winner, world club trophy winner, league cup winner the list goes on and all whilst getting selected and captaining one of the worlds biggest clubs with the array of talent available to Klopp He’s wank alright mate |
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Post by shrewspotter on Mar 31, 2022 8:35:52 GMT
Id go with a 433, something like
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Saka----Kane---------Foden--
Southgate has options in abundance
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Mar 31, 2022 9:29:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2022 9:29:17 GMT
Id go with a 433, something like Pickford Trent-Maguire-Stones-Chilwell -------Rice--------------- ---Bellingham--Mount-------- Saka----Kane---------Foden-- Southgate has options in abundance Maguire and Stones won't win a tournament as a partnership and neither will Bellingham. Good prospect but not ready for me. Too soft centred that team for me . He has the players for sure to go a long way again |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 31, 2022 9:33:27 GMT
Bellingham would be a starter in most teams in world football.
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Mar 31, 2022 9:50:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2022 9:50:05 GMT
Bellingham would be a starter in most teams in world football. In your opinion , yes. In reality , no |
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Post by shrewspotter on Mar 31, 2022 9:50:17 GMT
Id go with a 433, something like Pickford Trent-Maguire-Stones-Chilwell -------Rice--------------- ---Bellingham--Mount-------- Saka----Kane---------Foden-- Southgate has options in abundance Maguire and Stones won't win a tournament as a partnership and neither will Bellingham. Good prospect but not ready for me. Too soft centred that team for me . He has the players for sure to go a long way again I know what you mean about Maguire/Stones but cannot really think of a better partnership. Bellingham on the other hand is 18 going on 28, he has it all and should be playing for sure |
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Mar 31, 2022 9:56:06 GMT
Id go with a 433, something like Pickford Trent-Maguire-Stones-Chilwell -------Rice--------------- ---Bellingham--Mount-------- Saka----Kane---------Foden-- Southgate has options in abundance Maguire and Stones won't win a tournament as a partnership and neither will Bellingham. Good prospect but not ready for me. Too soft centred that team for me . He has the players for sure to go a long way again If you go with a flat back four, Trent won't be in it. Still more likely to be Walker with Reece James a possibility. As a wing back Trent would still be battling with James too. And I can't see Sterling not starting either. His record is excellent and he offers more goal threat than Saka. |
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Mar 31, 2022 9:56:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2022 9:56:31 GMT
Maguire and Stones won't win a tournament as a partnership and neither will Bellingham. Good prospect but not ready for me. Too soft centred that team for me . He has the players for sure to go a long way again I know what you mean about Maguire/Stones but cannot really think of a better partnership. Bellingham on the other hand is 18 going on 28, he has it all and should be playing for sure Don't get me wrong, great talent and will be a great great player for sure but not yet a starter for me. The World Cup could be when he comes into his own though. I think Southgate has seen the light with Sancho but Bellingham will be a regular for years to come, no doubt. Foden has really started to look the part as we knew he would as has Rice 😡 |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 31, 2022 10:17:07 GMT
Bellingham would be a starter in most teams in world football. In your opinion , yes. In reality , no In reality he gets into most sides in world football. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 31, 2022 10:36:35 GMT
Henderson is a number 8, it’s not the same role. He gets a lot of shit but he’s made the most of his ability. Jordan Henderson Captain of Liverpool FC…..champions league winner and runner up, premier league winner, world club trophy winner, league cup winner the list goes on and all whilst getting selected and captaining one of the worlds biggest clubs with the array of talent available to Klopp He’s wank alright mate Henderson is just one of them players who isn't appreciated. Amid the obvious appeal players have someone has to do the things nobody notices. |
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Post by lordb on Mar 31, 2022 10:41:54 GMT
I know what you mean about Maguire/Stones but cannot really think of a better partnership. Bellingham on the other hand is 18 going on 28, he has it all and should be playing for sure Don't get me wrong, great talent and will be a great great player for sure but not yet a starter for me. The World Cup could be when he comes into his own though. I think Southgate has seen the light with Sancho but Bellingham will be a regular for years to come, no doubt. Foden has really started to look the part as we knew he would as has Rice 😡 case for Bellingham gets stronger & stronger he can't be far off re the centre of defence, agree it's not the strongest part of the side but both have very good tournament experience now Looking at the other sides defences can't see many good defences, France for sure...that might be it? I think Maguire & Stones would get in a lot of the sides despite their issues Could be a high scoring tournament |
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Mar 31, 2022 10:43:07 GMT
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Post by cheadlepotter on Mar 31, 2022 10:43:07 GMT
Southgate is spoilt for choice in some areas of the pitch. I’d like to see Tomori play in the summer. I’m confident in all areas of the pitch apart from keeper and centre half.
As for the group…Mexico, Morocco and Saudi Arabia please.
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Mar 31, 2022 11:34:40 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 31, 2022 11:34:40 GMT
Southgate is spoilt for choice in some areas of the pitch. I’d like to see Tomori play in the summer. I’m confident in all areas of the pitch apart from keeper and centre half. I'd prefer Switzerland to Mexico mate As for the group…Mexico, Morocco and Saudi Arabia please. |
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Mar 31, 2022 11:46:26 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 31, 2022 11:46:26 GMT
Maguire and Stones won't win a tournament as a partnership and neither will Bellingham. Good prospect but not ready for me. Too soft centred that team for me . He has the players for sure to go a long way again If you go with a flat back four, Trent won't be in it. Still more likely to be Walker with Reece James a possibility. As a wing back Trent would still be battling with James too. And I can't see Sterling not starting either. His record is excellent and he offers more goal threat than Saka. Which is weird seeing as he plays in a back four for one of the best club sides on the planet. But I know what you mean |
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Mar 31, 2022 12:12:01 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2022 12:12:01 GMT
If you go with a flat back four, Trent won't be in it. Still more likely to be Walker with Reece James a possibility. As a wing back Trent would still be battling with James too. And I can't see Sterling not starting either. His record is excellent and he offers more goal threat than Saka. Which is weird seeing as he plays in a back four for one of the best club sides on the planet. But I know what you mean Reece James is a great player. Club form doesn't always make you a great international player , oddly. You can play for the best club in Europe but doesn't work like that. Steve Bruce was a huge part of Man U's success. Way too often players get picked on their club alone as we know which has been one of England's problems in the past. Players like Walcott were constantly picked despite real poor international performances. I think Mings plays well for England but seem to be in a minority. Sancho really poor at international level for me., Not been great at Man U either to be fair. Certainly got semi final potential but you never know at the WC. You need luck as well and to beat the best which England rarely do at tournaments but past is irrelevant. Backed France and Italy last 2 tournaments, going for the Dutch as a bit of a wild card this time out but 1 of 8 or 9 can win it. |
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Mar 31, 2022 12:58:36 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 31, 2022 12:58:36 GMT
Which is weird seeing as he plays in a back four for one of the best club sides on the planet. But I know what you mean Reece James is a great player. Club form doesn't always make you a great international player , oddly. You can play for the best club in Europe but doesn't work like that. Steve Bruce was a huge part of Man U's success. Way too often players get picked on their club alone as we know which has been one of England's problems in the past. Players like Walcott were constantly picked despite real poor international performances. I think Mings plays well for England but seem to be in a minority. Sancho really poor at international level for me., Not been great at Man U either to be fair. Certainly got semi final potential but you never know at the WC. You need luck as well and to beat the best which England rarely do at tournaments but past is irrelevant. Backed France and Italy last 2 tournaments, going for the Dutch as a bit of a wild card this time out but 1 of 8 or 9 can win it. It'd be in keeping with the strangeness of the coming World Cup if an outsider won it. Which suggests it might be our time |
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Mar 31, 2022 13:13:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2022 13:13:38 GMT
Reece James is a great player. Club form doesn't always make you a great international player , oddly. You can play for the best club in Europe but doesn't work like that. Steve Bruce was a huge part of Man U's success. Way too often players get picked on their club alone as we know which has been one of England's problems in the past. Players like Walcott were constantly picked despite real poor international performances. I think Mings plays well for England but seem to be in a minority. Sancho really poor at international level for me., Not been great at Man U either to be fair. Certainly got semi final potential but you never know at the WC. You need luck as well and to beat the best which England rarely do at tournaments but past is irrelevant. Backed France and Italy last 2 tournaments, going for the Dutch as a bit of a wild card this time out but 1 of 8 or 9 can win it. It'd be in keeping with the strangeness of the coming World Cup if an outsider won it. Which suggests it might be our time It could be as have the talent but thought he got it very wrong v Italy and especially Croatia in that second half if being harsh as did well in both tournaments and easy to be an armchair manager . Huge decisions win tournaments also and you need 1 or 2 . Will take a good side to pass the Dutchies I think as developing into a decent outfit again but far from the finished article. |
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Mar 31, 2022 13:30:49 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 31, 2022 13:30:49 GMT
Which is weird seeing as he plays in a back four for one of the best club sides on the planet. But I know what you mean Reece James is a great player. Club form doesn't always make you a great international player , oddly. You can play for the best club in Europe but doesn't work like that. Steve Bruce was a huge part of Man U's success. Way too often players get picked on their club alone as we know which has been one of England's problems in the past. Players like Walcott were constantly picked despite real poor international performances. I think Mings plays well for England but seem to be in a minority. Sancho really poor at international level for me., Not been great at Man U either to be fair. Certainly got semi final potential but you never know at the WC. You need luck as well and to beat the best which England rarely do at tournaments but past is irrelevant. Backed France and Italy last 2 tournaments, going for the Dutch as a bit of a wild card this time out but 1 of 8 or 9 can win it. Agree with most of this. However Arnold only has 16 caps in 4 years so feels a bit like he’s not been given a lot of opportunities. Or it’s probably that Southgate is a bit more reserved and finds the defensive qualities of the others as more important to how the team sets up. |
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Mar 31, 2022 13:38:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2022 13:38:28 GMT
Reece James is a great player. Club form doesn't always make you a great international player , oddly. You can play for the best club in Europe but doesn't work like that. Steve Bruce was a huge part of Man U's success. Way too often players get picked on their club alone as we know which has been one of England's problems in the past. Players like Walcott were constantly picked despite real poor international performances. I think Mings plays well for England but seem to be in a minority. Sancho really poor at international level for me., Not been great at Man U either to be fair. Certainly got semi final potential but you never know at the WC. You need luck as well and to beat the best which England rarely do at tournaments but past is irrelevant. Backed France and Italy last 2 tournaments, going for the Dutch as a bit of a wild card this time out but 1 of 8 or 9 can win it. Agree with most of this. However Arnold only has 16 caps in 4 years so feels a bit like he’s not been given a lot of opportunities. Or it’s probably that Southgate is a bit more reserved and finds the defensive qualities of the others as more important to how the team sets up. I think anyone who shares a name with the diner owner from Happy Days only deserves 16 caps |
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 31, 2022 13:45:03 GMT
Qatar, Mexico, Iran and Saudi Arabia could be a mouth-watering group.
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Mar 31, 2022 13:59:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2022 13:59:06 GMT
Qatar, Mexico, Iran and Saudi Arabia could be a mouth-watering group. Mexico and Iran are decent enough sides. |
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 31, 2022 14:16:41 GMT
Qatar, Mexico, Iran and Saudi Arabia could be a mouth-watering group. Mexico and Iran are decent enough sides. I always look forward to Mexico games in the World Cup |
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Mar 31, 2022 15:24:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2022 15:24:29 GMT
Mexico and Iran are decent enough sides. I always look forward to Mexico games in the World Cup World cup great underachievers. Most quarter finals without a win. Had some great sides that never quite delivered. |
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Mar 31, 2022 15:35:14 GMT
Mexico are always good to watch at a World Cup and I wouldn't want to come up against them in the Group stage.
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Post by lordb on Mar 31, 2022 16:06:30 GMT
Which is weird seeing as he plays in a back four for one of the best club sides on the planet. But I know what you mean Reece James is a great player. Club form doesn't always make you a great international player , oddly. You can play for the best club in Europe but doesn't work like that. Steve Bruce was a huge part of Man U's success. Way too often players get picked on their club alone as we know which has been one of England's problems in the past. Players like Walcott were constantly picked despite real poor international performances. I think Mings plays well for England but seem to be in a minority. Sancho really poor at international level for me., Not been great at Man U either to be fair. Certainly got semi final potential but you never know at the WC. You need luck as well and to beat the best which England rarely do at tournaments but past is irrelevant. Backed France and Italy last 2 tournaments, going for the Dutch as a bit of a wild card this time out but 1 of 8 or 9 can win it. The Dutch have possibly the best CB in the world of course (De Ligt too), however massively lacking quality at the other end Van Gaal will have to extra clever I think interesting side |
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Mar 31, 2022 16:11:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2022 16:11:56 GMT
Reece James is a great player. Club form doesn't always make you a great international player , oddly. You can play for the best club in Europe but doesn't work like that. Steve Bruce was a huge part of Man U's success. Way too often players get picked on their club alone as we know which has been one of England's problems in the past. Players like Walcott were constantly picked despite real poor international performances. I think Mings plays well for England but seem to be in a minority. Sancho really poor at international level for me., Not been great at Man U either to be fair. Certainly got semi final potential but you never know at the WC. You need luck as well and to beat the best which England rarely do at tournaments but past is irrelevant. Backed France and Italy last 2 tournaments, going for the Dutch as a bit of a wild card this time out but 1 of 8 or 9 can win it. The Dutch have possibly the best CB in the world of course (De Ligt too), however massively lacking quality at the other end Van Gaal will have to extra clever I think interesting side I think Depay was the top scorer amongst European qualifiers or was at one stage. Do lack a bit though as you say and can't rely on his goals. |
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Mar 31, 2022 16:42:17 GMT
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Post by cheadlepotter on Mar 31, 2022 16:42:17 GMT
Qatar, Mexico, Iran and Saudi Arabia could be a mouth-watering group. Only Europe can have two teams in the same group. Unfortunately you’ve chosen three from Asia! Wait and see the quality of teams making the 48 team World Cups. DR Congo vs Uzbekistan. UAE vs Burkina Faso. Madagascar vs Scotland. |
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Mar 31, 2022 16:49:21 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2022 16:49:21 GMT
Qatar, Mexico, Iran and Saudi Arabia could be a mouth-watering group. Only Europe can have two teams in the same group. Unfortunately you’ve chosen three from Asia! Wait and see the quality of teams making the 48 team World Cups. DR Congo vs Uzbekistan. UAE vs Burkina Faso. Madagascar vs Scotland. Am looking forward to the Vatican beating Scotland |
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Post by werrington on Mar 31, 2022 16:51:28 GMT
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