jm
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Post by jm on Jul 16, 2024 11:28:20 GMT
Eddie 'time wasting and shithousery' Howe. Not sure I'm onboard with that appointment
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Jul 16, 2024 11:28:40 GMT
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Post by superjw on Jul 16, 2024 11:28:40 GMT
Strange similarities in the way we are talking vs Stoke manager replacements…
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Jul 16, 2024 11:29:41 GMT
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Post by superjw on Jul 16, 2024 11:29:41 GMT
Take Kane out of the team and we probably would have improved 😂 This is what finished it for me, why play a player that was clearly not fit/injured and come out with it publicly after the final! Especially with the talent on the bench!! The mind boggles! It cost us!!! Because Southgate didn’t want to upset the big names and certainly not the captain. He’s a great people person and not a tactician/coach
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 16, 2024 11:31:55 GMT
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Post by werrington on Jul 16, 2024 11:32:22 GMT
Eddie 'time wasting and shithousery' Howe. Not sure I'm onboard with that appointment If he managed Stoke we’d love the shit housery
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Post by essexstokey on Jul 16, 2024 11:39:05 GMT
3 years to late now go get klop
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 16, 2024 11:40:16 GMT
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Jul 16, 2024 11:41:20 GMT
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jul 16, 2024 11:41:20 GMT
We’ll never learn will we? Poch another bottler who’s won the square root of FA I don’t think winning something previously needs to be on the CV, hiring an active bottle job would be nice though
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 16, 2024 11:44:49 GMT
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Jul 16, 2024 11:48:23 GMT
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 16, 2024 11:48:23 GMT
I don't think England could tempt Klopp, it would be nice but won't happen. I just want an attack minded manager, don't care which country they are from.
I imagine we will get Pochettino, Potter, Howe or the likely favourite Lampard
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Post by adri2008 on Jul 16, 2024 11:50:00 GMT
It's people's perception that Southgate has held the team back is the problem - his record has been excellent. If we'd got identical results playing in an attacking manner then people would be wanting him to continue. We'll soon find out if he was the issue anyway - personally I think the new manager is going to have an impossible job on their hands to meet expectations.
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England
Jul 16, 2024 11:50:19 GMT
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Post by george2again on Jul 16, 2024 11:50:19 GMT
This is what finished it for me, why play a player that was clearly not fit/injured and come out with it publicly after the final! Especially with the talent on the bench!! The mind boggles! It cost us!!! Because Southgate didn’t want to upset the big names and certainly not the captain. He’s a great people person and not a tactician/coach Listening to Neville on Sky, not mentioned once that Southgate made same mistakes after every tournament. Learned absolutely nothing in my opinion, epitomised by lining up Gallagher and Trippier straight after England equalised.
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England
Jul 16, 2024 11:52:57 GMT
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 16, 2024 11:52:57 GMT
Goodbye,nice guy,useless manager
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Jul 16, 2024 11:53:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2024 11:53:55 GMT
That's just the equivalent of saying be careful what you wish for when you are a mid table PL club wanting to be better. The old Charlton/Curbishley nonsense.
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Jul 16, 2024 11:56:29 GMT
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Post by ian57 on Jul 16, 2024 11:56:29 GMT
Although in football terms, Carsley is Irish - which would no doubt cause problems for some I wouldn't be vehemently against Howe. It'd be a hell of a jump for Carsley to suddenly become one of the most famous people in the country, on the back of hardly any management experience. Not sure how anyone would react in that situation. I know the Spanish manager had a similar trajectory, but the England job is chalk and cheese. Where you get that from? Carsley was born in Birmingham. Hes as Irish as Jonny Walters. I think it would be ballsy to appoint Carsley but it would make a lot of sense from the FA in terms of continuity, coming from within the system itself. This could be the way to make a treadmill of national managers following the U21 path. The more I think about Carsley the more it makes actual sense - IF we want to break away from the cycle of foreign managers and no style of consistency in the English National Team. Jon Walter’s is Nigerian mate.
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Jul 16, 2024 11:57:27 GMT
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 16, 2024 11:57:27 GMT
I don't care if England lose, I just want to see them attack teams and play without fear. We had very little fight all tournament, 1 half of good football all tournament that was it, he had to go. I know we got to the final but we didn't half ride our luck to get there
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Jul 16, 2024 12:09:28 GMT
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Post by Block 26 on Jul 16, 2024 12:09:28 GMT
Eddie Howe for me all day long, plays attacking football & doesn’t go into defensive mode once a goal up.
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Post by onepara on Jul 16, 2024 12:13:19 GMT
I don't care if England lose, I just want to see them attack teams and play without fear. We had very little fight all tournament, 1 half of good football all tournament that was it, he had to go. I know we got to the final but we didn't half ride our luck to get there Strange comment. Would you want Stoke to play 'nice football' & lose? Losers win nothing, & go nowhere. You play to win!
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 16, 2024 12:14:39 GMT
I'd honestly be going all out for Ancelotti. He had his head turned by the Brazil job recently and he's at that time of life where a national job would suit him down to the ground. Has 18 months left on his contract but what more can he achieve at Real Madrid, I'm sure it would be negotiable?
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Jul 16, 2024 12:15:42 GMT
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 16, 2024 12:15:42 GMT
Like me reaching out to Margot Robbie and Scarlett Johansson first before deciding who to take to the Red Lion tonight. Except the FA are the richest national organisation in world football. I'm not doing too bad myself.
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England
Jul 16, 2024 12:16:07 GMT
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 16, 2024 12:16:07 GMT
Eddie 'time wasting and shithousery' Howe. Not sure I'm onboard with that appointment He'll fit international football perfectly
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Post by lordb on Jul 16, 2024 12:17:25 GMT
I can't see England getting a better candidate than Poch already seen (on this thread) him being decried as 'a loser' sure he's not perfect - absolutely no one is -, could definitely get behind him
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Post by lordb on Jul 16, 2024 12:19:03 GMT
Eddie Howe for me all day long, plays attacking football & doesn’t go into defensive mode once a goal up. he always did at Bournemouth (& Burnley) when playing away, produced incredibly dull sides plus all the cheating Stoke v Bournemouth games at our place always horrible
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Post by salopstick on Jul 16, 2024 12:19:49 GMT
It's people's perception that Southgate has held the team back is the problem - his record has been excellent. If we'd got identical results playing in an attacking manner then people would be wanting him to continue. We'll soon find out if he was the issue anyway - personally I think the new manager is going to have an impossible job on their hands to meet expectations. the issue isnt losing these games its the manner, the fact its the same decsions each and every time. hes far too cautiuas when he did not need to be. He did not make the big decisions when he needs too. If he had dropped kane for watkins, brought in palmer earlier, gave gordon a decent chance and we got to the semi and lost the complaining would not be there. we could accept losing. but he stuck to the same system, players etc. These tournaments hes had relatively easy paths to the final. His placings are nearly the bare minum given the resources and fixtures Einstein, insanity, same thing, different result etc
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Post by lordb on Jul 16, 2024 12:23:31 GMT
We’ll never learn will we? Poch another bottler who’s won the square root of FA I don’t think winning something previously needs to be on the CV, hiring an active bottle job would be nice though they also need to want the job If you can name a better candidate than Poch who would take the job the lets get that manager
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England
Jul 16, 2024 12:23:37 GMT
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Post by werrington on Jul 16, 2024 12:23:37 GMT
Eddie Howe for me all day long, plays attacking football & doesn’t go into defensive mode once a goal up. he always did at Bournemouth (& Burnley) when playing away, produced incredibly dull sides plus all the cheating Stoke v Bournemouth games at our place always horrible Bournemouth were/are a small club doing whatever they needed to do to stay in the premiership The expectations are different at Newcastle and even higher with England It’s night and day
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2024 12:25:40 GMT
I'd be going balls deep for Ancelotti. He had his head turned by the Brazil job recently and he's at that time of life where a national job would suit him to the ground. Has 18 months left on his contract but what more can he achieve at Real Madrid, I'm sure it would be negotiable? He's the one i'd go for too. Knows the English game, knows what makes our players tick and doesn't act like a 3 year old child on Christmas Day when he's at the top table. A ruthless operator that would no doubt win a trophy if he found himself in the same position as Southgate. The likes of Howe, Carsley et al are just more of what we've just had. No marks that haven't even wet their heads in top level football.
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Jul 16, 2024 12:26:02 GMT
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Post by hinckpotter on Jul 16, 2024 12:26:02 GMT
Southgate had 25 games against top 10 rank teams and achieved 4 wins. Forget sentiment, nice bloke and apparently good man manager but tactically atrocious.
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Post by senojbor on Jul 16, 2024 12:26:07 GMT
It's people's perception that Southgate has held the team back is the problem - his record has been excellent. If we'd got identical results playing in an attacking manner then people would be wanting him to continue. We'll soon find out if he was the issue anyway - personally I think the new manager is going to have an impossible job on their hands to meet expectations. the issue isnt losing these games its the manner, the fact its the same decsions each and every time. hes far too cautiuas when he did not need to be. He did not make the big decisions when he needs too. If he had dropped kane for watkins, brought in palmer earlier, gave gordon a decent chance and we got to the semi and lost the complaining would not be there. we could accept losing. but he stuck to the same system, players etc. These tournaments hes had relatively easy paths to the final. His placings are nearly the bare minum given the resources and fixtures Einstein, insanity, same thing, different result etc Can't understand why you're not the England manager?
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Jul 16, 2024 12:26:41 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 16, 2024 12:26:41 GMT
he always did at Bournemouth (& Burnley) when playing away, produced incredibly dull sides plus all the cheating Stoke v Bournemouth games at our place always horrible Bournemouth were/are a small club doing whatever they needed to do to stay in the premiership The expectations are different at Newcastle and even higher with England It’s night and day The thought of him and Tindall as England’s manager and coach🤮🤮after all the abuse we’ve given them🤔not for me mate
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