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Post by Pugsley on Jul 6, 2024 19:38:35 GMT
3 semi finals in last 4 tournaments. Unprecedented.
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Post by str8outtahampton on Jul 6, 2024 19:38:58 GMT
Lampard just said that Rice was outstanding, I must have been watching a different game You were watching the same game as me. I really rate Rice but he typified a conservative, unadventurous, turgid approach.
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Jul 6, 2024 19:39:50 GMT
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jul 6, 2024 19:39:50 GMT
We must be close to some kind of record having reached the semi’s despite only winning once in 90 minutes so far? That’s the Euros all over. I’m sure Portugal were P7 D8 the other year.
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Jul 6, 2024 19:40:04 GMT
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Post by jordan2009 on Jul 6, 2024 19:40:04 GMT
We are playing so badly, it takes some believing. But we have progressed. We’ve played well in the past and lost in penalties. We'll win it. We've been hard watch, boring. We just keep finding away win though.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jul 6, 2024 19:40:07 GMT
The worrying thing is Southgate genuinely believes we played well. He seems to love doing as little as possible without any style.
Where’s the ambition, passion, excitement? Seriously what is the point of winning when it’s so so boring to watch. Would much prefer to see a footballing side win it.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jul 6, 2024 19:40:24 GMT
Lampard just said that Rice was outstanding, I must have been watching a different game I think he was talking sbout his take away
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Jul 6, 2024 19:40:49 GMT
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jul 6, 2024 19:40:49 GMT
Lampard just said that Rice was outstanding, I must have been watching a different game You were watching the same game as me. I really rate Rice but he typified a conservative, unadventurous, turgid approach. Declan Rice could make blinking look lung-busting.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jul 6, 2024 19:41:40 GMT
Winning is now all that matters.
Let's just have that feeling of a major trophy win.
Semi-Final. Final. Quarter-Final. Semi-Final and still going.
We would have ripped legs, arms heads the lot off for that after the Iceland debacle.
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Post by jordan2009 on Jul 6, 2024 19:43:51 GMT
England look very secure, and we were largely untroubled against a strong side. We could be so much more, but again it's tournament football and the win is all that matters. You'd like to see: Pickford Shaw Stones Guehi Walker Rice Bellingham Palmer Foden Saka Watkins But who knows? Maybe we'll stick the place out and take home the trophy. It works for France. Tough calls got be made, not least with Kane. We all know he'll stick with him. I do think the system we played tonight is our best, it's tried and tested with Walker playing on that right side of the back three. I thought Konsa was excellent tonight, it'll be a shame see him drop back onto the bench. However Ghuie(spelling?) as been excellent though this tournament Fair play to the peno takers. 5 great penos. Four by young lads. Takes some balls that does
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Jul 6, 2024 19:44:31 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jul 6, 2024 19:44:31 GMT
The worrying thing is Southgate genuinely believes we played well. He seems to love doing as little as possible without any style. Where’s the ambition, passion, excitement? Seriously what is the point of winning when it’s so so boring to watch. Would much prefer to see a footballing side win it. He's had to throw the subs at it to rescue games and has so much talent on the bench it's worked. Imagine if they played well and had an attack minded side I guess he'd argue they'd got this far but were seconds from it being a disaster
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Post by richie22 on Jul 6, 2024 19:47:28 GMT
Can we have a night where we just give it a rest, I don’t like how England are playing at the mo, I took them at 15/2 to go thru on pens. But we are squeaking thru. The red tops back in 96 put Southgate thru hell, as a manager , we may not agree but he’s given us some of our best nights . We’re still going, uglly as , but we’re still going… I’m not saying all hail and that load of shit but onwards we march on.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 6, 2024 19:48:54 GMT
Winning is now all that matters. Let's just have that feeling of a major trophy win. Semi-Final. Final. Quarter-Final. Semi-Final and still going. We would have ripped legs, arms heads the lot off for that after the Iceland debacle. Apparently we'll have to win it playing like Brazil 1970 for it to mean anything.
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Jul 6, 2024 19:50:28 GMT
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Post by 4doorsaloon on Jul 6, 2024 19:50:28 GMT
Surely it’s all about winning? Southgate is doing a sterling job, it’s tournament football… you find a way to win. Thank fuck the management don’t listen to outside influences from fans who know nothing about tactics.
Like anything in life, achieving the win/end goal is all that matters right 🤷♂️
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Jul 6, 2024 19:54:08 GMT
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Post by march4 on Jul 6, 2024 19:54:08 GMT
3 semi finals in last 4 tournaments. Unprecedented. And yet I have no feeling for this group of players like I did for previous squads. I’m proud that England are through to another semifinal but I just haven’t taken to our players.
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Jul 6, 2024 19:54:17 GMT
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Post by smallthorner on Jul 6, 2024 19:54:17 GMT
In the absence of a natural left footers it made sense. If Shaw is fit for Wednesday then no brainer. If he isn't I would go with Saka there. Trippier has been a disaster on that side and led to some mighty turgid football. It didn't. We'd be out right now if we'd played him at LWB. It was a stupid idea before the game and this game proves it even more. Saka has just won MOTM playing RW and scored a goal that kept us in this tournament and you want to move him? Mental 😂 To say we'd be out if Saka had played LWB is a stupid statement. We could have created more chances etc against an average Swiss side if Trippier or TAA had been in their natural position. You didn't think it was turgid football?? Wow. Saka was playing RWB by the way. God forbid if Shaw is not fit for the next match cuz if Trippier is still there we will finally run out of luck. Rubbish football from a rubbish manager.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 6, 2024 19:59:12 GMT
3 semi finals in last 4 tournaments. Unprecedented. And yet I have no feeling for this group of players like I did for previous squads. I’m proud that England are through to another semifinal but I just haven’t taken to our players. Like who in previous squads? Gazza really the only one I can think of. Lots in this squad have personality. We're just getting to old to relate.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 6, 2024 20:03:56 GMT
It didn't. We'd be out right now if we'd played him at LWB. It was a stupid idea before the game and this game proves it even more. Saka has just won MOTM playing RW and scored a goal that kept us in this tournament and you want to move him? Mental 😂 To say we'd be out if Saka had played LWB is a stupid statement. We could have created more chances etc against an average Swiss side if Trippier or TAA had been in their natural position. You didn't think it was turgid football?? Wow. Saka was playing RWB by the way. God forbid if Shaw is not fit for the next match cuz if Trippier is still there we will finally run out of luck. Rubbish football from a rubbish manager. Rubbish tournament. France in the semi final and not scored a goal from open play. International football is dull as dishwater.
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Jul 6, 2024 20:04:33 GMT
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Post by Han Solo on Jul 6, 2024 20:04:33 GMT
Thought Shaw was poor when he came on. Bar one run seemed to be always looking back. Wasn't that his first minutes since February? They were which may account for it but why take him when he’s clearly not fit.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jul 6, 2024 20:09:11 GMT
Surely it’s all about winning? Southgate is doing a sterling job, it’s tournament football… you find a way to win. Thank fuck the management don’t listen to outside influences from fans who know nothing about tactics. Like anything in life, achieving the win/end goal is all that matters right 🤷♂️ He lost his 2.biggest games by poor tactics. I don't think a last second equaliser or pens is down to tactics in any sense but his record is very good He was seconds away from coming home a complete disaster
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 6, 2024 20:10:48 GMT
That was fucking abysmal. Onwards to the semis
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Jul 6, 2024 20:12:30 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Jul 6, 2024 20:12:30 GMT
Got to be in it to win it! Us and France know it’s a long tournament, no point peaking early… Or at all, if you're harry Kane.
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Jul 6, 2024 20:13:33 GMT
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jul 6, 2024 20:13:33 GMT
Got to be in it to win it! Us and France know it’s a long tournament, no point peaking early… Or at all, if you're harry Kane. Saving his legs mate…
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 6, 2024 20:13:52 GMT
Oh my God
Happinesses is so fleeting.
I'm going to savour it.
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Jul 6, 2024 20:23:21 GMT
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Post by adri2008 on Jul 6, 2024 20:23:21 GMT
Cant argue with Southgate's tournamemt record can you.
Personally felt the team played considerably better - our passing/pressing was certainly alot sharper. We are carrying Kane though arent we, hes just not fully fit
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Jul 6, 2024 20:24:39 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jul 6, 2024 20:24:39 GMT
Do any England players miss the semi?
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Post by Veritas on Jul 6, 2024 20:27:04 GMT
Cant argue with Southgate's tournamemt record can you. Personally felt the team played considerably better - our passing/pressing was certainly alot sharper. We are carrying Kane though arent we, hes just not fully fit Spot on I think Southgate needs to make the massive decision to bench Kane for the semi
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Jul 6, 2024 20:27:06 GMT
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Post by mtrstudent on Jul 6, 2024 20:27:06 GMT
Cant argue with Southgate's tournamemt record can you. Personally felt the team played considerably better - our passing/pressing was certainly alot sharper. We are carrying Kane though arent we, hes just not fully fit We were better, but Southgate seems way too satisfied. "We were happy with the performance and then you go behind and you have to show other characteristics." Come on Gareth it was not good. And there are obvious things you could do to fix it.
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Jul 6, 2024 20:28:19 GMT
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jul 6, 2024 20:28:19 GMT
It didn't. We'd be out right now if we'd played him at LWB. It was a stupid idea before the game and this game proves it even more. Saka has just won MOTM playing RW and scored a goal that kept us in this tournament and you want to move him? Mental 😂 To say we'd be out if Saka had played LWB is a stupid statement. We could have created more chances etc against an average Swiss side if Trippier or TAA had been in their natural position. You didn't think it was turgid football?? Wow. Saka was playing RWB by the way. God forbid if Shaw is not fit for the next match cuz if Trippier is still there we will finally run out of luck. Rubbish football from a rubbish manager. How is it a stupid statement? He scored a goal cutting inside from the right wing. He wouldn't score that playing LWB would he? 😂 I haven't actually said at any point that it wasn't turgid football either, you've made that up. It was bloody awful again. Find a single quote from me that says I think it wasn't turgid (spoiler alert, you can't, because I didn't) Agree with the rest of the things you've said. I think with Shaw fit we'll see a more balanced side hopefully but I won't hold my breath because the manager is negative.
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Post by delilahwhy on Jul 6, 2024 20:29:23 GMT
Oh my God Happinesses is so fleeting. I'm going to savour it. Mainoo is some player. So composed at such a young age. It's difficult to not imagine he'll be a mainstay in midfield for the next decade or so. Palmer always looks a threat when he comes on. Saka was brilliant. Foden looked more lively and involved. The back 3 were solid. And those 5 penalties were sublime. It's coming home.
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Post by Veritas on Jul 6, 2024 20:30:38 GMT
That was fucking abysmal. Onwards to the semis Not great I grant you but abysmal? Behave yourself.
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