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Post by shrewspotter on Jul 6, 2024 7:15:41 GMT
I'm surprised to see the clamour for trent, he was very poor in his first 2 game's despite being in a position that's alien to him. When he came on vs Slovenia he was also poor, giving the ball away and looking nervous
My view is people are jumping on the back of what Gary Neville has said. Not a huge Trippier fan but I think he's much more solid
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Post by stokiemac on Jul 6, 2024 7:21:27 GMT
If Shaw is going to play it would make sense to start him and change if hes not ready, if he comes on later and breaks down he's essentially cost you two substitutions
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 6, 2024 7:28:09 GMT
I'm surprised to see the clamour for trent, he was very poor in his first 2 game's despite being in a position that's alien to him. When he came on vs Slovenia he was also poor, giving the ball away and looking nervous My view is people are jumping on the back of what Gary Neville has said. Not a huge Trippier fan but I think he's much more solid Yeah he's more Solid but that's not what your after. The wing-backs in a 3-5-2 need to BE the width and provide attacking chances. Trent averages around 20 assists in the Premier league over 5 plus years. The whole point of this formation for me was to let Walker fully sit which he has been doing anyway. Play Foden/Palmer more centrally with Bellingham and allow Trent/Saka to stay wide, be hard to mark and deliver quality into dangerous areas. Trippier playing there, like you say solid, but I think completely compromises the attacking intent of the formation.
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Jul 6, 2024 7:28:53 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jul 6, 2024 7:28:53 GMT
I'm surprised to see the clamour for trent, he was very poor in his first 2 game's despite being in a position that's alien to him. When he came on vs Slovenia he was also poor, giving the ball away and looking nervous My view is people are jumping on the back of what Gary Neville has said. Not a huge Trippier fan but I think he's much more solid He is more solid and he's much better than on the right but solid isn't what we need right now, we need the ball to go forward and quickly with quality TAA failed to do that from central midfield which was hugely disappointing but there's no doubt he will do that from RWB If Shaw was fully fit then he'd be LWB with Saka as RWB Irrespective of what system or which players we have to play faster, play the ball forward a lot more and take risks otherwise we will go out Spin on that is IF we do turn up with some actual progressive football we should beat the Swiss Atm expecting England to lose today
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jul 6, 2024 7:30:10 GMT
If Shaw is going to play it would make sense to start him and change if hes not ready, if he comes on later and breaks down he's essentially cost you two substitutions That would be my preference too, but you’re going from not playing for months to playing in a major tournament knockout game. Again, I don’t think any other major football side would take this risk of even taking the player. Shaw is decent for sure, but he’s hardly worth the risk we’ve taken.
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Jul 6, 2024 7:46:01 GMT
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Post by werrington on Jul 6, 2024 7:46:01 GMT
I'm surprised to see the clamour for trent, he was very poor in his first 2 game's despite being in a position that's alien to him. When he came on vs Slovenia he was also poor, giving the ball away and looking nervous My view is people are jumping on the back of what Gary Neville has said. Not a huge Trippier fan but I think he's much more solid They all were poor ….he had absolutely no forward options to pass to Just like the players who replaced him nothing changed as it didn’t when he was dropped and replaced as again we had no forward options to pass to It only picked up v Slovenia when he came on alongside yep you’ve got it forward options to pass to ( Gordon and Palmer ) along with Kane
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Jul 6, 2024 7:47:48 GMT
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Post by shrewspotter on Jul 6, 2024 7:47:48 GMT
I'm surprised to see the clamour for trent, he was very poor in his first 2 game's despite being in a position that's alien to him. When he came on vs Slovenia he was also poor, giving the ball away and looking nervous My view is people are jumping on the back of what Gary Neville has said. Not a huge Trippier fan but I think he's much more solid He is more solid and he's much better than on the right but solid isn't what we need right now, we need the ball to go forward and quickly with quality TAA failed to do that from central midfield which was hugely disappointing but there's no doubt he will do that from RWB If Shaw was fully fit then he'd be LWB with Saka as RWB Irrespective of what system or which players we have to play faster, play the ball forward a lot more and take risks otherwise we will go out Spin on that is IF we do turn up with some actual progressive football we should beat the Swiss Atm expecting England to lose today you make a good point to be fair.
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Post by lordb on Jul 6, 2024 7:51:24 GMT
He is more solid and he's much better than on the right but solid isn't what we need right now, we need the ball to go forward and quickly with quality TAA failed to do that from central midfield which was hugely disappointing but there's no doubt he will do that from RWB If Shaw was fully fit then he'd be LWB with Saka as RWB Irrespective of what system or which players we have to play faster, play the ball forward a lot more and take risks otherwise we will go out Spin on that is IF we do turn up with some actual progressive football we should beat the Swiss Atm expecting England to lose today you make a good point to be fair. What worries me is Southgate will have seen France go through playing turgid rubbish and prioritise the defence Swiss are good and dealt with Italy comfortably but they are not lethal up front
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Jul 6, 2024 8:12:22 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 6, 2024 8:12:22 GMT
None of the other top teams (and barely anyone thinking about it) have played a back 3 this tournament have they?
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Jul 6, 2024 8:14:13 GMT
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Post by peterpan1 on Jul 6, 2024 8:14:13 GMT
I'm surprised to see the clamour for trent, he was very poor in his first 2 game's despite being in a position that's alien to him. When he came on vs Slovenia he was also poor, giving the ball away and looking nervous My view is people are jumping on the back of what Gary Neville has said. Not a huge Trippier fan but I think he's much more solid Anyone that takes any notice of what the clown Gary Neville says, needs to give their head a wobble.
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Jul 6, 2024 8:15:40 GMT
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 6, 2024 8:15:40 GMT
None of the other top teams (and barely anyone thinking about it) have played a back 3 this tournament have they? I wouldn't worry about that. I think it's the worst standard tournament I have seen.
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Jul 6, 2024 8:17:30 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 6, 2024 8:17:30 GMT
None of the other top teams (and barely anyone thinking about it) have played a back 3 this tournament have they? Switzerland do and that’s why he’s changing, to “match them up” which I think is a negative move. He’s basically saying we need to stop them from hurting us.
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Jul 6, 2024 8:18:00 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jul 6, 2024 8:18:00 GMT
None of the other top teams (and barely anyone thinking about it) have played a back 3 this tournament have they? Swiss do Serbia, Scotland, Austria, Denmark Italy (1 game) can't think of anyone else So just the Swiss of the decent sides
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 6, 2024 8:18:05 GMT
None of the other top teams (and barely anyone thinking about it) have played a back 3 this tournament have they? I wouldn't worry about that. I think it's the worst standard tournament I have seen. It’s been an enjoyable tournament and it’s nice to see people fucking it off tbh.
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Jul 6, 2024 8:19:15 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jul 6, 2024 8:19:15 GMT
I wouldn't worry about that. I think it's the worst standard tournament I have seen. It’s been an enjoyable tournament and it’s nice to see people fucking it off tbh. Some fantastic games but a good chunk of turgid games, not just England yesterday summed the tournament up for me
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Jul 6, 2024 8:22:34 GMT
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 6, 2024 8:22:34 GMT
The best 2 teams went out yesterday so this tournament is anyone's
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Jul 6, 2024 8:37:26 GMT
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 6, 2024 8:37:26 GMT
I'm surprised to see the clamour for trent, he was very poor in his first 2 game's despite being in a position that's alien to him. When he came on vs Slovenia he was also poor, giving the ball away and looking nervous My view is people are jumping on the back of what Gary Neville has said. Not a huge Trippier fan but I think he's much more solid I think it's Southgate's tactics, he's scared to attack. The team hasn't played well even when changes were made. For me it's not the players that are the problem it's Southgate and his focus on being too defensive. We have attacking players playing like a team trying to grind out 40 points in the premier league to stay up. Trippier at left back has really unbalanced this whole team because we just can't attack quickly enough down the left which once teams realised we have been easier to trap to get the ball back quicker
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Jul 6, 2024 8:49:15 GMT
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Post by Gods on Jul 6, 2024 8:49:15 GMT
Strange watching these other top teams batter one another into submission while racking up injuries and suspensions.
The England team must be fresh as a daisy not having met any opposition worthy of the name. We have literally had no defending to do.
Wonder if it will count for or against us when this tournament finally gets down to the wire?
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Post by Block 26 on Jul 6, 2024 9:26:15 GMT
The best 2 teams went out yesterday so this tournament is anyone's Spain have looked by far the best side for me, they will take some beating.
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Jul 6, 2024 9:29:13 GMT
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Post by thornestein on Jul 6, 2024 9:29:13 GMT
None of the other top teams (and barely anyone thinking about it) have played a back 3 this tournament have they? Switzerland do and that’s why he’s changing, to “match them up” which I think is a negative move. He’s basically saying we need to stop them from hurting us. Southgate only does negative, hope i’m wrong but can see it going tits up
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Jul 6, 2024 9:29:35 GMT
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jul 6, 2024 9:29:35 GMT
5 players a booking away from a suspension.
They get wiped after the QFs should we get through.
Bellingham Foden Mainoo Gallagher Trippier
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Jul 6, 2024 9:30:11 GMT
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Post by thornestein on Jul 6, 2024 9:30:11 GMT
I wouldn't worry about that. I think it's the worst standard tournament I have seen. It’s been an enjoyable tournament and it’s nice to see people fucking it off tbh. i agree , been some very good games , shame none have been England
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Jul 6, 2024 9:45:07 GMT
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Post by adri2008 on Jul 6, 2024 9:45:07 GMT
What's with the leaked teams/formation before the game? Surely you want to keep the opposition guessing yet we seem happy enough letting people know days in advance.
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Jul 6, 2024 9:45:33 GMT
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 6, 2024 9:45:33 GMT
The best 2 teams went out yesterday so this tournament is anyone's Spain have looked by far the best side for me, they will take some beating. I thought Germany were the better team yesterday. Portugal have a really good team too and they outplayed France and were unfortunate to go out. Spain are a threat but thought they would be better yesterday
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Jul 6, 2024 10:19:25 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jul 6, 2024 10:19:25 GMT
Spain have looked by far the best side for me, they will take some beating. I thought Germany were the better team yesterday. Portugal have a really good team too and they outplayed France and were unfortunate to go out. Spain are a threat but thought they would be better yesterday Thought Portugal were dreadful
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Jul 6, 2024 10:23:00 GMT
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 6, 2024 10:23:00 GMT
I thought Germany were the better team yesterday. Portugal have a really good team too and they outplayed France and were unfortunate to go out. Spain are a threat but thought they would be better yesterday Thought Portugal were dreadful I thought they were good until they got to Ronaldo
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Post by Los Alfareros on Jul 6, 2024 10:28:14 GMT
England to win 2-1 today and progress, 0-0 in the semi's against Hollerlands but win on peno's, and beat Spain in the final 1-0.
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Post by cheadlepotter on Jul 6, 2024 11:30:41 GMT
England to win 2-1 today and progress, 0-0 in the semi's against Hollerlands but win on peno's, and beat Spain in the final 1-0. NURSE!!!
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Jul 6, 2024 11:57:29 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jul 6, 2024 11:57:29 GMT
Am in Dusseldorf surprised how many Dutch fans here
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Jul 6, 2024 11:59:40 GMT
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Post by staffordstokiemad1 on Jul 6, 2024 11:59:40 GMT
5 players a booking away from a suspension. They get wiped after the QFs should we get through. Bellingham Foden Mainoo Gallagher Trippier So 5 players aren’t a booking away from suspension then 🤔
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